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Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim
Dragoons.
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Posted - 2012.10.02 01:52:00 -
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Still I seen it work logis that flew incursions Befor try out pvp fared better that logis that did not.
So it shows that hard more complex npcs can have an effect on peoples ablity to grasp pvp tactics sooner
A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
95
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Posted - 2012.10.02 02:02:00 -
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aye AI is dumb no matter what but point should be that u introduce new player to pvp gear no matter what so gap is not huge like now is.
I think that is much better focus then current one of farming dots and having 0.1% game experience .
"it put ore down in can or it gets the hose again" |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1520
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:04:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Grumpymunky wrote:... just don't come back here crying when the mission rats start decloaking their falcon alts, and lighting cynos. I'd love to see their highsec cyno modules... Well I suppose if they only want their missions to be more like the highsec pvp experience, the red crosses can huddle around an indestructible station with neutral NPCs that repair them, and then dock if they start taking damage. 
Your mission: survive and make Evil McGanker (Red + edition) dock up. Then you may return for your reward !
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1291
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Posted - 2012.10.02 05:24:00 -
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Quoting from this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155703
CCP FoxFour wrote:Our end goal is to have PvE and PvP be similar enough that you bring the same fits to both and that yes, there will be far fewer red boxes and a more enjoyable experience killing them.
So EVE is getting vastly better as a game sometime in the future.
Better PVE brings more subs. PVP-like PVE makes it more practical to do it outside hisec, and makes the transition from a carebear to an EVE player smoother. PVP might become generally better as even the noobs has similar experience from doing PVE?
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Garonor
Black Innocence
5
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Posted - 2012.10.02 07:47:00 -
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I am (among some other things) a mission runner, at least that's what I do to earn most of my ISK on this toon. And quite frankly, I'm looking forward to this change. Missions are very reptetitive and if you have done them a certain number of times, they don't pose a real challenge, because you know exactly what happens at which point, where the triggers are and so on. So maybe with the AI-update this will (to a certain degree) change and missions will become more dynamic. Also there will be no more cookie-cutter-fits and you'll actually have to think about how to go best about a certain situation.
But maybe I'm wrong, and this change just results in the emergence of other cookie-cutter-fits and -ships. I guess there's only one way to find out... |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
585
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Posted - 2012.10.02 07:53:00 -
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1. Its absolutely right that they are moving ships towards every ship having a PvP setup, they said so in the QEN's
2. PLEX is the breaking point of this game. No PLEX no Eve. Everyone is looking to hisec carebears saying HTFU. If they ever change the null rats and complexes to have A.I. that starts ******* with people's ISK per hour the game will break. It will only be wounded when they do it to hisec.
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Cameron Cahill
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Exhale.
105
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Posted - 2012.10.02 09:41:00 -
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rodyas wrote:This is almost too funny, A lot of people use BSs for missions, but they are hardly used in PVP. Its almost ******** to make missions more like pvp, with that happening. I say go make everyone fly BSs in pvp, then turn to missions and make us wear pvp fits.
Right now we "are" using pvp fits in missions, since we are the only ones flying lot so of BSs.
Erm, apart from the fact that every 0.0 alliance has at least one fleet doctrine based on battleships. They are used a lot in lowsec and even more in highsec. Even in wormholes where mass limitation makes them less desirable most fleets still have a few. |
Prince Kobol
621
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Posted - 2012.10.02 10:55:00 -
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Feck less NPC's I want more.. a lot more, a **** load more.
I want level 4 missions to have the same AI as sleepers and be completely and utterly impossible to be afk and to be solo'ed in any ship that can fly in HS.
I want the NPC's to be flying Logi andECM ships, I want people to have to fleet up with others and actually think about their ship fits and work together as a Team before tackling level 4 Missions
Sure you will get lots of people in NPC's corps crying but like I give a damn.
You want to shoot spaceships solo, go and download Freespace 2 (its free) or some other single person spaceship game
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Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1879
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Posted - 2012.10.02 11:01:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Honestly it would be nice if the whole mission system were overhauled and made into something more dynamic with less repetition and emphasis on working together with others to finish the missions, kind of like with incursions.
But I guess that would be too "theme park".
"Theme park" is where your advancement through the game is railroaded: here, take this story we prepared earlier, keep your arms inside the vehicle at all times, etc. There's no rule that says you can't have PvE content in a sandbox game.
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Sheynan
Lighting the blight
65
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Posted - 2012.10.02 12:13:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:1. Its absolutely right that they are moving ships towards every ship having a PvP setup, they said so in the QEN's
2. PLEX is the breaking point of this game. No PLEX no Eve. Everyone is looking to hisec carebears saying HTFU. If they ever change the null rats and complexes to have A.I. that starts ******* with people's ISK per hour the game will break. It will only be wounded when they do it to hisec.
When (nearly) everyone makes less money and thus stops buying PLEXes the price will go down until it is reasonable for previous PLEX buyers to buy them again. |
Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2012.10.02 15:32:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:...I want level 4 missions to have the same AI as sleepers and be completely and utterly impossible to be afk and to be solo'ed in any ship that can fly in HS.
I want the NPC's to be flying Logi andECM ships, I want people to have to fleet up with others and actually think about their ship fits and work together as a Team before tackling level 4 Missions
Sure you will get lots of people in NPC's corps crying but like I give a damn.
You want to shoot spaceships solo, go and download Freespace 2 (its free) or some other single person spaceship game
You're not very bright, are you?
How about you go play CSS? |
Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim
Dragoons.
302
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Posted - 2012.10.02 15:46:00 -
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People less trolling more talking about betted npcs
A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Prince Kobol
621
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Posted - 2012.10.02 15:52:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:...I want level 4 missions to have the same AI as sleepers and be completely and utterly impossible to be afk and to be solo'ed in any ship that can fly in HS.
I want the NPC's to be flying Logi andECM ships, I want people to have to fleet up with others and actually think about their ship fits and work together as a Team before tackling level 4 Missions
Sure you will get lots of people in NPC's corps crying but like I give a damn.
You want to shoot spaceships solo, go and download Freespace 2 (its free) or some other single person spaceship game
You're not very bright, are you? How about you go play CSS?
Yes I'm a complete idiot so please explain to me why you think this is bad idea.. would it be perhaps you are one of those nameless NPC Players who don't like to play with others?
Maybe its because the thought of CCP changing the AI so you can no longer run those level 4 mission afk scares the bejesus out of you? |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
334
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:02:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:Fkn Arson wrote:I believe that is the entire point behind what they are doing to the npc's. Its a gradual shift towards wanting there to be little differences between pve and pvp setups/skillsets. Absolutely, The gradual notching up in the NPC AI levels will mean that players are going to have to move away from 'this is sort of ok' fits, to fitting specifically and carefully. I'm pretty sure it will be a natural change, but it's one that I'm quite looking forward to. Thanks and fly safe. Once again, a disaster for people trying to make ISK to pay for their account. The bottom line is fits that work for ISK generation are NOT PvP fits. How many people fit MwD's and blasters in a mission? Of course, this is all part of the plan to wipe out high sec entirely, but that is another thread.
They are no not PVP fits because the current mechanics....
Stop crying that you can't farm ISK anymore.
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lanyaie
567
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Posted - 2012.10.02 16:35:00 -
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Let npc's fit cyno's and watch them cyno in a blob of npc's
Hay |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1520
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Posted - 2012.10.02 17:06:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:Let npc's fit cyno's and watch them cyno in a blob of npc's
Well in anomalies, NPCs just appear in waves.
If they actually had a cyno appear and then the ships jump in a second later (like they hotdropped you) it would be cool.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim
Dragoons.
302
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Posted - 2012.10.02 17:12:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:lanyaie wrote:Let npc's fit cyno's and watch them cyno in a blob of npc's Well in anomalies, NPCs just appear in waves. If they actually had a cyno appear and then the ships jump in a second later (like they hotdropped you) it would be cool.
U know I have wondered how this npcs just appear out of nothingness
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1520
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Posted - 2012.10.02 17:23:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:lanyaie wrote:Let npc's fit cyno's and watch them cyno in a blob of npc's Well in anomalies, NPCs just appear in waves. If they actually had a cyno appear and then the ships jump in a second later (like they hotdropped you) it would be cool. U know I have wondered how this npcs just appear out of nothingness
Better yet, it USED to be that you started off (in some anoms) with twice as many rats. Now, a doublespawn is more like a bug.
What would be really great would be if sometimes they just jumped in two waves at once. By "great" I mean "kind of amusing" because sheesh I get bored ratting sometimes, you know.
At least when orbiting complexes as a loyal Minmatar alt, I can chat with the blinky orange rats that will gank me...
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1106
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Posted - 2012.10.02 17:28:00 -
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In this supposed gradual change to pvp fit npc missions, somewhere along the way there will need to be a giant lurch forward to decrease the overall number of npcs to players and npc ships power increased as pvp is not 1 player taking out 30+ other players. And individual npcs being worth more. And that's how many missions to reform? They are not going to gradually change mission goals. They are better off introducing new "levels" of missions and just phasing out the old 1 through 5 later on. There will be PvE fits for years to come. |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
682
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Posted - 2012.10.02 18:08:00 -
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wow!
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me.
Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Nerf it cause I can't fly it.
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
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