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Cyno Kidd
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:30:00 -
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I understand eve-kill has hardware problems. It's something about 8.000 $ afaik. Eve-kill looks great and helps us all a lot, obviously.
Why don't CCP help Eve-kill to get the site going ? Not my business how they wanna do it.
We will be happy, CCP should be happy, Eve-kill happy ! Everybody wins !
It's a small amount of money for a company like CCP so I don't think it's a big deal for them.
They should invest or help related Eve programs that help us everyday. Dotlan, killboards ( big ones like eve-kill or battleclinic ), EveMon, etc.
Maybe I miss facts and they do help so I may just talk bullshite right now.
If anyone can clear things for me, I'll be thankful.
o/ |
Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto We Sizwe
576
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:33:00 -
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Because all of them is 3rd party?
I would rather the entire concept of Killmail tracking be removed tbh.
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |
Cyno Kidd
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:39:00 -
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Could be 10th party if you ask me, we all use them everyday, I think it's in CCP interest to keep us happy. I don't see your point. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
939
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:41:00 -
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Because if you help one 3rd party group, you HAVE to help ALL the 3rd party groups. Otherwise, you risk looking like you are either picking favorites and/or that you are inconsistent/unreliable.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1563
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:43:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Because if you help one 3rd party group, you HAVE to help ALL the 3rd party groups. Otherwise, you risk looking like you are either picking favorites and/or that you are inconsistent/unreliable.
This.
Also, even if they did/do help the Eve-kill team, I'm pretty sure they won't go public about it.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose."
-Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji
635
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:44:00 -
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Hey at least they're not charging Eve Kill $99 a year for "licensing" like they wanted to. |
RAGE QU1T
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:44:00 -
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Proposes CCP take the DUST killboard template, tweeks it for EVE, lock a Dev in a closet for a month, and implement for TQ.End result CCP saves $8,000, the community aswel as CCP is no longer dependent on a third party that had ltm resources. |
Imports Plus
State War Academy
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:25:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Because if you help one 3rd party group, you HAVE to help ALL the 3rd party groups. Otherwise, you risk looking like you are either picking favorites and/or that you are inconsistent/unreliable.
Except that the killboard and km tracking is vital to many thousands of pvp players. Any other 3rd party app is just fluff.
HELP EVE-KILL DAMMIT |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
783
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:39:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I would rather the entire concept of Killmail tracking be removed tbh.
That's the kind of comment that prompts me to look you up on eve-kill.
So I guess you should be happy that it's down.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
1370
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:55:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I would rather the entire concept of Killmail tracking be removed tbh.
Kill reports (mails?) help tell the stories of conflict in this game. This game is all about combat. Without the stories, this game would be forgettable.
The more detailed information in kill mails to help tell the story, the better.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Reticle
Sight Picture
24
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:57:00 -
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If they're going to help EVE Kill, then I'd like to get some help for my hardware issues as well. $8k for me please! |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
261
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:59:00 -
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I have a better idea; http://pledgie.com/campaigns/18342
The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Ryhss
Android Gang
Stealth Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2012.10.03 20:59:00 -
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What's Eve-kill? |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
203
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:I would rather the entire concept of Killmail tracking be removed tbh. That's the kind of comment that prompts me to look you up on eve-kill. So I guess you should be happy that it's down.
Let me help you with that. |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:12:00 -
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Why isn't the OP giving Eve-Kill his money?
Also, there are plenty of alternatives to Eve-Kill. |
Cannibal Kane
The Angel of Death
580
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:16:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:I would rather the entire concept of Killmail tracking be removed tbh. That's the kind of comment that prompts me to look you up on eve-kill. So I guess you should be happy that it's down.
Why should I be happy it's down?
I just think if people were not held up to ridicule for a loss more people would actually risk loosing their ships.
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Fatal Ascension
1275
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Posted - 2012.10.03 21:19:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:I would rather the entire concept of Killmail tracking be removed tbh. That's the kind of comment that prompts me to look you up on eve-kill. So I guess you should be happy that it's down. Why should I be happy it's down? I just think if people were not held up to ridicule for a loss more people would actually risk loosing their ships.
No, I don't think they would.
Contrary to what you assert, most risk aversion is due to attachment. That attachment can be derived from value or any other arbitrary human foible.
Some people who really love their precious won't ever risk it.
That's the definition of risk-aversion.
He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller.
-Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Cyno Kidd
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.04 04:18:00 -
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Tbh, I don't really understand why CCP haven't started their own killboards and similar programs like EveMon, Eveboard, Ore charts, Jitonomic alike and so on.
And no, CCP could help any 3rd party they want, nobody can make them help ALL of them. If I were in their place, I would help only the ones who really brought something to make the game better. |
ArmyOfMe
Probable Cause.
109
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Posted - 2012.10.04 06:27:00 -
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Yawn....
The one thread to rule them all (oh wait, wrong one)
Suleiman Shouaa> And you still think you're taking risks?
NightmareX> I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.
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Karbowiak
Superior Mass
67
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:08:00 -
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Hi, and thanks to everyone of you who have donated so far.
So far i have been waiting on CCP to say yay or nay to letting us post on EVE-O about the pledgie and the issues we have been having, but seeing as someone else posted it, i shall reply!
The problems we are having are hardware related, and after trying several hosters to get the specific kind of hardware we want and need to keep EVE-KILL running, we came to the conclusion that paying upwards of 800$ a month to get the sort of support, bandwidth, peering and hardware we wanted, wasn't at all feasible.
So instead we started looking at maybe doing it ourselves, and - well, we have decided that we can and will do it ourselves.
Problem is however, that EVE-KILL can barely make enough to keep itself afloat as it is, and the money that is leftover after paying servers and whatnot, is being saved up for just this thing (buying our own hardware). Sadly we have been sort of forced to do it early, which is why we are asking the community for help with getting us the last money.
Now, you might think that CCP should help us do this sort of thing, but as someone else already pointed out, if CCP decides to help us out with money, they pretty much would have to help everyone else too. So i can completely understand their dilemma.
Which is also why i havn't asked them for monetary assistance, and i wont. If they offer it, great, if not, no biggie.
Anyway, i'll continue fixing holes on the sinking ship while Beanie is manning the pumps. Hopefully we can stay afloat a little longer  |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
536
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:24:00 -
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plexes for eve-kill from ccp? :D
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
242
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:25:00 -
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CCP should buy Eve-Kill
There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
382
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Posted - 2012.10.04 10:26:00 -
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What is this thread even about anyways?
The stuff.
Quote:Crowd funding or crowdfunding (alternately crowd financing, equity crowdfunding or social fundraising) describes the collective effort of individuals who network and pool their resources, usually via the Internet, to support efforts initiated by other people or organizations.[1] Crowd funding is used in support of a wide variety of activities, including disaster relief, citizen journalism, support of artists by fans, political campaigns, startup company funding,[2] movie[3] or free software development, and scientific research.[4]
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Ilykbois Butt4Sex
LoGisTicAl ERr0R
1
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:19:00 -
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There is another kill-board being constructed and looks to have great potential, it's in early stages but a viable option instead of just having eve-kill
Take a look and see what you think.
Decloaked.com |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
382
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:24:00 -
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Ilykbois Butt4Sex wrote:There is another kill-board being constructed and looks to have great potential, it's in early stages but a viable option instead of just having eve-kill Take a look and see what you think. Decloaked.com My Corp has been looking for people like you.
Anyways how long has that taken so far David?
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Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens
Rookie Empire
60
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:37:00 -
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To Op. Why dont you that use eve-kill help out? After all its service you fellows seems to use and enjoy. Im sure if punch of you would pay 2$ donation to them they would get servers up and running in notime.
Personally i dont see why CCP should help them, where would it end then? They would set dangerous and expensive policy of paying hardware for 3rd party developers. im sure theres a lot of services that would happily accept free servers
[Insert something funny or smart here] |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
62
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:38:00 -
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EVE-Kill is not under the responsibility of CCP.
 deal with it. |
Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
96
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Posted - 2012.10.04 11:41:00 -
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EVE-kill is awesome. I think CCP should help them out if they can. |
Cyno Kidd
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:02:00 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:EVE-Kill is not under the responsibility of CCP. deal with it.
And I have a big screen TV. What's you're point ?
Please do this : don't use killboard, EveMon, DotLan, EveHQ, EFT and all other 3rd party programs for a month. Come back to us and let us know if you're still playing the game. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
52
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:02:00 -
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Imports Plus wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Because if you help one 3rd party group, you HAVE to help ALL the 3rd party groups. Otherwise, you risk looking like you are either picking favorites and/or that you are inconsistent/unreliable. Except that the killboard and km tracking is vital to many thousands of pvp players. Any other 3rd party app is just fluff. HELP EVE-KILL DAMMIT
Vital ??
Nope, whats vital is a ship with guns.
The killboard is just fluff
The killboard is just about epeen stroking
It's why they are run on an Opt-in basis.
Serious question for you.
If eve-kill is Vital to your gameplay, how many of the needed 8000 dollars, have you personally sent them ?
Because I'm guessing your contribution is $0
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