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non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:39:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?
I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you.
They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent.
If more people thought like this the forums would be better. |
Sonia Abrao
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:48:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit?
Actually, OP seems to be more grown up than most men i've met (Including you, perhaps?). Don't know if that is the analogy i'd use when talking about us <.> CCP (even though it fits), but that man sure knows how to appeal to a woman  |
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
4
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:50:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit? I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you. They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent. If more people thought like this the forums would be better.
Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better.
Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional.
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Sonia Abrao
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:52:00 -
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non judgement wrote:If more people thought like this the forums would be better.
Hell.. if more MEN were like this then women all around the world would be happier  |
Sonia Abrao
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:54:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:non judgement wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit? I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you. They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent. If more people thought like this the forums would be better. Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better. Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional.
Waah.. blah blah blah.. emo this emo that. Who is immature now? I at least hope that you are a guy under 20 because that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like. |
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
8
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:58:00 -
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Sonia Abrao wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:non judgement wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit? I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you. They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent. If more people thought like this the forums would be better. Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better. Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional. Waah.. blah blah blah.. emo this emo that. Who is immature now? I at least hope that you are a guy under 20 because that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like.
Nope, I'm well over 20 which is why people who are unable to actually understand that tihs is a game, a business, NOT some kind of emotional relationship seem so damn immature to me.
but hey, if you think a 'real man' should be treating a game devloper like it's a girlfriend, good luck to you. |
Sonia Abrao
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:28:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:Sonia Abrao wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:non judgement wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:OP needs to stop taking this game so seriously and/or grow up a bit? I think the OP is more understanding/mature than you. They aren't talking about the game in any way. Has more to do with the way we relate to CCP. Maybe them to us as well but to a lesser extent. If more people thought like this the forums would be better. Alternatively, if less people acted like immature emo's the forums would be better. Comparing CCP/customers to husband/wife makes me think back to all the other pathetically emo "why don't CCP love us anymore" threads from a few months back. This is a business. People seem to forget that in their haste to be overly emotional. Waah.. blah blah blah.. emo this emo that. Who is immature now? I at least hope that you are a guy under 20 because that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like. Nope, I'm well over 20 which is why people who are unable to actually understand that tihs is a game, a business, NOT some kind of emotional relationship seem so damn immature to me. but hey, if you think a 'real man' should be treating a game devloper like it's a girlfriend, good luck to you.
Ah, it all makes sense now. I apologize. You are not immature.
You just don't know the meaning of the world "Analogy".
And i suspect that you will reply saying that you do, and that the analogy is "fail".
If you think that the OP suggested, or actually thinks that we are in a romantic relationship with CCP then you fail at text comprehension and tongue-in-cheek humour. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
111
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:28:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:
Nope, I'm well over 20 which is why people who are unable to actually understand that tihs is a game, a business, NOT some kind of emotional relationship seem so damn immature to me.
but hey, if you think a 'real man' should be treating a game devloper like it's a girlfriend, good luck to you.
Quite shocking that someone well into his 20s doesn't seem to comprehend that its just an analogy. All hes doing is taking another scenario and relating it Eve, I don't think he actually thinks CCP is his husband(maybe though).
Edit: Damn Sonia beat me to it. |
Foodpimp
Heaven's Harvesters
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
17
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:33:00 -
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wow...this thread is a winner! |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
49
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:37:00 -
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Sonia Abrao wrote:non judgement wrote:If more people thought like this the forums would be better. Hell.. if more MEN were like this then women all around the world would be happier
Sonia Abrao wrote:that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like.
/me puts hands on waist, stuffs chest, looks up and around and smiles like a nitwit.
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
8
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:38:00 -
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Feel free to continue with the ad homimen attacks, they're awesome.
I get the analogy but just saying "it's an analogy" doesn't legitmize it. I remember reading "an analogy" on the SWG forums years ago likening paying for that to 'date rape' - that was as off-base as this thread is.
"Forgiveness is an Act. It is NOT an EMOTION. You might feel the pain of what CCP did to you to the day you die. It has NOTHING to do with forgiveness
Forgiveness is NOT an Erasure of Your MEMORY. You might remember what CCP did to you, to the day you die."
This TOTALLY sums up the 'relationship' between the consumer and the corporate entity providing a service. If you feel any kind of "pain" - real or by way of analogy - about what CCP has done to you, you ought to re-think how you view this "relationship" as you're reading too much into it.
But hey, enjoy your little circle jerk. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
49
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:41:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:But hey, enjoy your little circle jerk.
I don't know watcha talking about but i have a poster of CCP Soundwave on my bedroom and you aint telling me what to do!
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Sonia Abrao
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:42:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Sonia Abrao wrote:non judgement wrote:If more people thought like this the forums would be better. Hell.. if more MEN were like this then women all around the world would be happier Sonia Abrao wrote:that, sweetheart, is how real men should be like. /me puts hands on waist, stuffs chest, looks up and around and smiles like a nitwit.
Don't spoil it.
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Sonia Abrao
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:45:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:Feel free to continue with the ad homimen attacks, they're awesome.
I get the analogy but just saying "it's an analogy" doesn't legitmize it. I remember reading "an analogy" on the SWG forums years ago likening paying for that to 'date rape' - that was as off-base as this thread is.
"Forgiveness is an Act. It is NOT an EMOTION. You might feel the pain of what CCP did to you to the day you die. It has NOTHING to do with forgiveness
Forgiveness is NOT an Erasure of Your MEMORY. You might remember what CCP did to you, to the day you die."
This TOTALLY sums up the 'relationship' between the consumer and the corporate entity providing a service. If you feel any kind of "pain" - real or by way of analogy - about what CCP has done to you, you ought to re-think how you view this "relationship" as you're reading too much into it.
But hey, enjoy your little circle jerk.
for someone who is such a picker about what people say and write and whatever you present your arguments in a very confusing fashion.
Also, you sound like a very very very very boring person.. i was teared up (as in teared up rolling on the floor lauuuughiiiiiiing... not cryyyyyyyyinnnnnnnnnng... get it? get it? gotta ask twice...) while you seem to be pissed off. Go figure... |
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
8
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:47:00 -
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Sonia Abrao wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:Feel free to continue with the ad homimen attacks, they're awesome.
I get the analogy but just saying "it's an analogy" doesn't legitmize it. I remember reading "an analogy" on the SWG forums years ago likening paying for that to 'date rape' - that was as off-base as this thread is.
"Forgiveness is an Act. It is NOT an EMOTION. You might feel the pain of what CCP did to you to the day you die. It has NOTHING to do with forgiveness
Forgiveness is NOT an Erasure of Your MEMORY. You might remember what CCP did to you, to the day you die."
This TOTALLY sums up the 'relationship' between the consumer and the corporate entity providing a service. If you feel any kind of "pain" - real or by way of analogy - about what CCP has done to you, you ought to re-think how you view this "relationship" as you're reading too much into it.
But hey, enjoy your little circle jerk. for someone who is such a picker about what people say and write and whatever you present your arguments in a very confusing fashion. Also, you sound like a very very very very boring person.. i was teared up (as in teared up rolling on the floor lauuuughiiiiiiing... not cryyyyyyyyinnnnnnnnnng... get it? get it? gotta ask twice...) while you seem to be pissed off. Go figure...
fair enough. Thanks for demonstrating a really mature attitude that people can learn from. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
50
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:50:00 -
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Envoy Achates wrote:fair enough. Thanks for demonstrating a really mature attitude that people can learn from.
Dude.. i don't know....
Chill!?
Looks to me like everyone is having fun at your expense...
Anyway, back on topic shall we?! Didn't see any blues yet... come on CCP.. communicate! 
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Envoy Achates
Safe Harbour Shipyards
8
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:52:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:
Looks to me like everyone is having fun at your expense...
a point that will surely keep me up at night.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
112
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:52:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Envoy Achates wrote:fair enough. Thanks for demonstrating a really mature attitude that people can learn from. Dude.. i don't know.... Chill!? Looks to me like everyone is having fun at your expense...
You really didn't have to tell him.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
105
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:59:00 -
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Sonia Abrao wrote:Renan Rulvo wrote:/me puts hands on waist, stuffs chest, looks up and around and smiles like a nitwit. Don't spoil it.
He's referring to the original video. Very much worth watching :)
The part in the video he's referring to is specifically where the marriage counsellor was suggesting to women that they should believe their husband's crazy plans, not immediately tell him how stupid they are. Believe the plans, then start asking sensible questions about how it's going to work. All a girl has to do is tell a guy he's done something right, or that she likes something he's done, and he'll get all ego-stroked, at which point the presenter did the puffed-up-peacock act that Renan was mimicking there :) |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
50
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:05:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Sonia Abrao wrote:Renan Rulvo wrote:/me puts hands on waist, stuffs chest, looks up and around and smiles like a nitwit. Don't spoil it. He's referring to the original video. Very much worth watching :) The part in the video he's referring to is specifically where the marriage counsellor was suggesting to women that they should believe their husband's crazy plans, not immediately tell him how stupid they are. Believe the plans, then start asking sensible questions about how it's going to work. All a girl has to do is tell a guy he's done something right, or that she likes something he's done, and he'll get all ego-stroked, at which point the presenter did the puffed-up-peacock act that Renan was mimicking there :)
Hehe yeah its damn right hilarious.. wish i could link it.. but don't want another locked thread. Specially one this amusing.
Ah what the hell.. type "Laugh your way to a better marriage" in youtube, watch the vids then come back sans religious stuff. Its actually a non-religious, weekend long, 4 hour seminar which just got a little cheesy at the last part. Should help so many people i don't mind if they lock another thread (please don't!! i wont let people talk about sensitive stuff like in the last one.. they only did because i was sleepiiing!!)
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
4
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:31:00 -
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Ah, I think the whole analogy is far too standard western world and Cinderalla dreaming....
Let's think Sheherazade... 1000 and 1 night... Or, nah, I don't want to write forever. You can read Arabian Nights all by yourselves.
CCP never had just one wife in EVE. They had four... at the very least...
They have some wifes in a place called "00"... In some places of our world that demarks the toilet, which for some viewers might be a fitting comparison. It is no big surprise then that the wifes behind that door clamour and cry very loudly for things like... I don't know. But it must be very important that more join them there and bring.. paper? This is a whole harem in fact. And as harems go, they want attention, before they bore themselves to death ignoring each other.
Now there are the other wifes. They life in a place called Wormholes. This might sound semi-erotic to some. It is definitely not! They are fewer by far! And while CCP - as a good husband-to-the-many - tries to appease them, CCP cannot just shove the 00 ladies of his lap.
But... the wormhole wifes are the least of CCPs troubles! There are the ladies he married in a place called High Sec! And they don't want to join the big harem with all the girly talk, mostly. They despise the idea of first ladies and prom queens and just want to have a good time at their own leisure. Perhaps they have been there before or perhaps they just don't care.
But there are quite a lot of them! And they are not as loud as the harem, perhaps they still believe they have a standard monogamic style marriage.
Their nearest neighbors are the divorced wifes. They life a low life style in a place called low-sec and are quite disillusioned, as they are neither part of the harem nor of the greater High Sec crowd. I can tell you, they would shoot you on sight without any reason! What reason for life do they have? All their dreams were shattered a long time ago and so they resort to senseless violence as no constructive means were ever given to them!
((Just expanding the analogy, so please take it with a grain of salt and now... flame if you want to! It is late here, I'll be defenseless.)) |
XIRUSPHERE
Deadly Intent.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:33:00 -
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I think you got the roles reversed m8. CCP is our batshit crazy wife who insist on spending everything we give her on BS. We ask her to make us something nice in the kitchen and she comes back with new shoes and clothes and for the life of her can't understand why we don't want her playing dress up when we have been eating left overs for the last 2 years. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
50
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:46:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:I think you got the roles reversed m8. CCP is our batshit crazy wife who insist on spending everything we give her on BS. We ask her to make us something nice in the kitchen and she comes back with new shoes and clothes and for the life of her can't understand why we don't want her playing dress up when we have been eating left overs for the last 2 years.
Guess thats another way of putting it  But its more fitting the other way around.
You see, like i said above, this community is like a woman in the sense that we get happy for basically nothing.. as long as CCP is communicating.
CCP you get points for writing devblogs. HUGE points.... So you're earning a lot of points for basically DOING NOTHING!! And the sooner the devblog goes live, the more points you earn.
Why? Because each time one of your players talk to another MMO's player of your plans... DING!! You get a point. (And the other MMO, the poor sob.. loses one hehe).
But CCP.. for crying out loud... Deliver what you Promise!
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
93
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:30:00 -
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I always knew I'd be a battered wife.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
124
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Posted - 2011.10.06 00:20:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:Ah, I think the whole analogy is far too standard western world and Cinderalla dreaming....
Let's think Sheherazade... 1000 and 1 night... Or, nah, I don't want to write forever. You can read Arabian Nights all by yourselves.
CCP never had just one wife in EVE. They had four... at the very least...
The process of maintaining relationships with a number of spouses is only slightly different to the process of maintaining a relationship with one. The same personal relationship needs to be maintained, otherwise that spouse will become unhappy. There are other considerations with multiple spouses, such as dividing attention fairly (not necessarily equally, some people just need more attention, other people don't like too much attention, but then expect to have attention when they demand it).
The basics of interpersonal communication are still the same: the communication needs to happen at all, then you can start paying attention to the details.
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Nandy Cocytus
Pandemonium Private Consultants LLC
1
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:31:00 -
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Cydori wrote:Then CCP has been cheating on us with WoD. Typical.
Vampires, man! Didn't you see Twilight? THEY SPARKLE.
So it goes. |
Cipher Jones
57
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:47:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:I think you got the roles reversed m8. CCP is our batshit crazy wife who insist on spending everything we give her on BS. We ask her to make us something nice in the kitchen and she comes back with new shoes and clothes and for the life of her can't understand why we don't want her playing dress up when we have been eating left overs for the last 2 years.
Any man who don't cook for his wife won't keep her.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
iNfeck7ed
Blueprint Haus
Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:47:00 -
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damz, y is mostly bitterz peeps talkin? CCP is heading in right direction now. put the guns down. go play WOT for a while and don't come back till you think ccp has it right.
All you complainers realize you can just go play something else right?
STFU |
Gwenywell Shumuku
22
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:49:00 -
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regarding the title:
he slapped you hard, told you he doesn't need you, that he doesn't care what you say, only what you do (=for him), and told you basically to gtfo.
Now, you packed your things, are ready to leave him. He crawles before you and beggs for forgiveness. You forgive him, because you remember THE GOOD OLD TIMES WHEN YOU STILL LOVED HIM.
But deep down you know it will NEVER be the same again, it will take hard work and many years till you trust him again. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
80
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:03:00 -
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Gwenywell Shumuku wrote:regarding the title:
he slapped you hard, told you he doesn't need you, that he doesn't care what you say, only what you do (=for him), and told you basically to gtfo.
Now, you packed your things, are ready to leave him. He crawles before you and beggs for forgiveness. You forgive him, because you remember THE GOOD OLD TIMES WHEN YOU STILL LOVED HIM.
But deep down you know it will NEVER be the same again, it will take hard work and many years till you trust him again.
Can't say this is far from reality =)
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
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