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Naos Zapatero	Posted - 2005.03.13 00:26:00 - [1] Edited by: Naos Zapatero on 13/03/2005 00:27:06 Would it be possible or for CCP to create an NPC corps for every empire that is at war with its alternate number according to the storyline? You could have players who do not have the time or inclination to join a PC corps join (and have some fun) and/or allow the RP corps join in an alliance with these NPC corps and solve the issue of war declaration cost for those RP corps within the already working framework of ôalliancesö. Any thoughts/suggestions from the community? *edit forgot to paste the post soz
Naos Zapatero Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2005.03.13 00:26:00 - [2] Edited by: Naos Zapatero on 13/03/2005 00:27:06 Would it be possible or for CCP to create an NPC corps for every empire that is at war with its alternate number according to the storyline? You could have players who do not have the time or inclination to join a PC corps join (and have some fun) and/or allow the RP corps join in an alliance with these NPC corps and solve the issue of war declaration cost for those RP corps within the already working framework of ôalliancesö. Any thoughts/suggestions from the community? *edit forgot to paste the post soz
wayz	Posted - 2005.03.13 00:48:00 - [3] I like this idea, wpuld be a leet faction system that could earn you rewards through your kill counts or maybe just being actively involved in the war. Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day! Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe! Wayz: too chey :)
wayz wayz logistics solutions	Posted - 2005.03.13 00:48:00 - [4] I like this idea, wpuld be a leet faction system that could earn you rewards through your kill counts or maybe just being actively involved in the war. www.faceparty.com/twisted_wayz
wayz	Posted - 2005.03.13 00:49:00 - [5] you could be awarded loyalty points for losing a decent ship and ararded a greater amount of loyalty points for winning, it could be set up as a pvp agent system maybe with pvp arenas Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day! Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe! Wayz: too chey :)
wayz wayz logistics solutions	Posted - 2005.03.13 00:49:00 - [6] you could be awarded loyalty points for losing a decent ship and ararded a greater amount of loyalty points for winning, it could be set up as a pvp agent system maybe with pvp arenas www.faceparty.com/twisted_wayz
Roy Focker	Posted - 2005.03.13 01:43:00 - [7] I see nothing but a benefit to what you suggested. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole.
Roy Focker Caldari Doomheim	Posted - 2005.03.13 01:43:00 - [8] I see nothing but a benefit to what you suggested. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole.
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.03.13 02:09:00 - [9] YES PLEAAAAAAAAASSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! The "Please CCP throw us some PC-NPC interaction" movement is gaining some momentum it seems... There are a few ideas along what you propose on this Events thread (the ideas "extracted" from two ongoing threads in this forums) Check it and see if it's more or less what you are thinking? --------- The Snow and the Dragon (Caldari children's Tale)
Herko Kerghans Taleweaver	Posted - 2005.03.13 02:09:00 - [10] YES PLEAAAAAAAAASSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! The "Please CCP throw us some PC-NPC interaction" movement is gaining some momentum it seems... There are a few ideas along what you propose on this Events thread (the ideas "extracted" from two ongoing threads in this forums) Check it and see if it's more or less what you are thinking? Barriers - an EVE novel - Chapter #4 released
Galk	Posted - 2005.03.13 02:56:00 - [11] Sure npc is built on roleplay, why the hell not. *had visions of defending both the gallente federation and the center for advance studies. Tbh, be nice to know that joining the gallente navy actualy ment something. Maybe the gm's, whatever could organise such conflict. Be hell of a fun for near everybody given proper explnation and roleplay. ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2005.03.13 02:56:00 - [12] Sure npc is built on roleplay, why the hell not. *had visions of defending both the gallente federation and the center for advance studies. Tbh, be nice to know that joining the gallente navy actualy ment something. Maybe the gm's, whatever could organise such conflict. Be hell of a fun for near everybody given proper explnation and roleplay. ______
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.13 03:12:00 - [13] No thanks.
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.13 03:12:00 - [14] No thanks.
Thomas Torquemada	Posted - 2005.03.13 03:23:00 - [15] Edited by: Thomas Torquemada on 13/03/2005 03:23:30 Sounds good, make it so perhaps you ask an agent that you wish to become part of their navy/forces, meaning when you accept you can kill other players who also did that in your opposing race. Minmatar accepts this role so he can attack/be attacked by an amarr player who also accepted the role. I like that plan. UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace? Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide! Peace My Brothers...
Thomas Torquemada Minmatar Universal Peace Corp	Posted - 2005.03.13 03:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Thomas Torquemada on 13/03/2005 03:23:30 Sounds good, make it so perhaps you ask an agent that you wish to become part of their navy/forces, meaning when you accept you can kill other players who also did that in your opposing race. Minmatar accepts this role so he can attack/be attacked by an amarr player who also accepted the role. I like that plan. UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace? Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide! Peace My Brothers...
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.03.13 08:01:00 - [17] i've been wanting something like this in most MMORPGs I've played.. listen closely GMs playing NPC characters! omg, and there could be like .. roleplaying? on a massive scale though, not this "one ship moving through xetic alliance space" stuff we see now. I want whole fleets of GM ships traveling through a certain sector with a purpose. oh well.. only if it were my game ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
ErrorS Caldari	Posted - 2005.03.13 08:01:00 - [18] i've been wanting something like this in most MMORPGs I've played.. listen closely GMs playing NPC characters! omg, and there could be like .. roleplaying? on a massive scale though, not this "one ship moving through xetic alliance space" stuff we see now. I want whole fleets of GM ships traveling through a certain sector with a purpose. oh well.. only if it were my game ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Naos Zapatero	Posted - 2005.03.13 11:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Thomas Torquemada Edited by: Thomas Torquemada on 13/03/2005 03:23:30 Sounds good, make it so perhaps you ask an agent that you wish to become part of their navy/forces, meaning when you accept you can kill other players who also did that in your opposing race. Minmatar accepts this role so he can attack/be attacked by an amarr player who also accepted the role. I like that plan. Yeah thats the idea.
Naos Zapatero Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2005.03.13 11:45:00 - [20] Originally by: Thomas Torquemada Edited by: Thomas Torquemada on 13/03/2005 03:23:30 Sounds good, make it so perhaps you ask an agent that you wish to become part of their navy/forces, meaning when you accept you can kill other players who also did that in your opposing race. Minmatar accepts this role so he can attack/be attacked by an amarr player who also accepted the role. I like that plan. Yeah thats the idea.
Mac Knife	Posted - 2005.03.13 11:51:00 - [21] i f*cking love the idea CCP PLEASE TAKE NOTE
Mac Knife Gallente The Company of Wolves	Posted - 2005.03.13 11:51:00 - [22] i f*cking love the idea CCP PLEASE TAKE NOTE
Dark Avatar	Posted - 2005.03.13 11:57:00 - [23] I second that, why the hell not, it will be a blast!!
Dark Avatar Caldari Ebon Seraph	Posted - 2005.03.13 11:57:00 - [24] I second that, why the hell not, it will be a blast!! For you, the day Knights of Chaos rolled into your system and killed your ace pilots was a most memorable day. For us, it was Tuesday...
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.03.13 12:01:00 - [25] The only empires that are at open war are the Ammatar and Minmatar. The rest are not 'officially' at war [Heterocephalus glaber]
Discorporation Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2005.03.13 12:01:00 - [26] The only empires that are at open war are the Ammatar and Minmatar. The rest are not 'officially' at war
Naos Zapatero	Posted - 2005.03.13 12:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Discorporation The only empires that are at open war are the Ammatar and Minmatar. The rest are not 'officially' at war War by proxy then? It wouldnt have to be that far off from the storyline.
Naos Zapatero Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2005.03.13 12:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Discorporation The only empires that are at open war are the Ammatar and Minmatar. The rest are not 'officially' at war War by proxy then? It wouldnt have to be that far off from the storyline.
Cinnander	Posted - 2005.03.13 12:30:00 - [29] Edited by: Cinnander on 13/03/2005 12:31:55 Why limit it to GM ships? Why not allow the players who have - for example - UBERHIGHBBQ Angel Cartel Standings to "side" with them in a "semi-npc" corp, or heck join "Archangels" outright. I believe that's what the original poster is saying. GMs have far more fun & interesting things to do, like answering petitions. Would really like to see something like this, but it mustn't enable allround gankfests in empire on every gate, station etc otherwise it would just become ... un-special. Big engagements could make the news etc. I guess it could (in the long term) be inegrated into the mission system, with for example Level 5 Command agents. I'll attempt to explain, but first we'd need a way for multiple people "talking" to the same agent to get added to the same mission instance, unlike the current L4 method where you have to form a gang yourself. Angels Agent Mission: First person talks to the Agent while this mission is available; the mission instance is created if they accept (fairly long duration, like 5 days): Attack and destroy Minmatar Navy deadspace outpost in system. Other people talking to the agent get the option to "join" this instance, perhaps they have a channel generated where all involved pilots are members (can't be closed, like corp chat). Once the instance is created, it could become possible for people who don't have enough standing to USE the L5 Agent for regular missions to still join the instance via the agent, allowing "noobies" who can't even use L2 agents to still join up. So you have a few people on this mission instance on behalf of the Angels, once there's "enough". Minmatar Navy Agent: Sends out an "important mission" to intially the same number of people who are involved with the Angels' mission. More are sent until the forces are equal ¦ 10%. People can somehow volunteer via the Originating Agent (similar to the above: standing not required, but knowledge that the Agent has this opportunity would be needed). Would be something to the tune of "Intelligence reports that the Angels are intending to mount an assault on our deadspace depot in System. We need you to protect it. We'll send you [all people in the instance] more details as and when we get them. Stay alert until then!" Once both sides have enough people in the instance [or a timer expires], a date and time for the mission are set. At this time fighting between all in the instance will become legal, and in the given system a deadspace objective would spawn. People are given bookmarks to their respective gate/side of it (one for attackers, one for defenders). Throw in a few deadspace structures, add a designated start and end time (such as 1 hour later), a few objectves (they must not kill , and objects/people, and must recover the stolen ) So rigourous fighting ensues, someone wins, faction standings are adjusted etc. One problem i can think of; If you have people in (for example) NPC corps doing this, it wouldnt be very organised and most missions would either have low participation or not happen at all. However, if people stick in groups (EG a group of corp mates/freinds who do these frequently) then it should all pan out nicely :P Then you'd get famous squads emerging... "15th Angel Dominations Wing - Undefeated in 6 engagements" etc. Of course the name of the squad would be arbitrary and not binding. Just like when people would put "Xetic Member" In their bio before Exodus Alliances, there wasnt actually a "Xetic" entity. Just some ideas, apols for the length.
Cinnander Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2005.03.13 12:30:00 - [30] Edited by: Cinnander on 13/03/2005 12:31:55 Why limit it to GM ships? Why not allow the players who have - for example - UBERHIGHBBQ Angel Cartel Standings to "side" with them in a "semi-npc" corp, or heck join "Archangels" outright. I believe that's what the original poster is saying. GMs have far more fun & interesting things to do, like answering petitions. Would really like to see something like this, but it mustn't enable allround gankfests in empire on every gate, station etc otherwise it would just become ... un-special. Big engagements could make the news etc. I guess it could (in the long term) be inegrated into the mission system, with for example Level 5 Command agents. I'll attempt to explain, but first we'd need a way for multiple people "talking" to the same agent to get added to the same mission instance, unlike the current L4 method where you have to form a gang yourself. Angels Agent Mission: First person talks to the Agent while this mission is available; the mission instance is created if they accept (fairly long duration, like 5 days): Attack and destroy Minmatar Navy deadspace outpost in system. Other people talking to the agent get the option to "join" this instance, perhaps they have a channel generated where all involved pilots are members (can't be closed, like corp chat). Once the instance is created, it could become possible for people who don't have enough standing to USE the L5 Agent for regular missions to still join the instance via the agent, allowing "noobies" who can't even use L2 agents to still join up. So you have a few people on this mission instance on behalf of the Angels, once there's "enough". Minmatar Navy Agent: Sends out an "important mission" to intially the same number of people who are involved with the Angels' mission. More are sent until the forces are equal ¦ 10%. People can somehow volunteer via the Originating Agent (similar to the above: standing not required, but knowledge that the Agent has this opportunity would be needed). Would be something to the tune of "Intelligence reports that the Angels are intending to mount an assault on our deadspace depot in System. We need you to protect it. We'll send you [all people in the instance] more details as and when we get them. Stay alert until then!" Once both sides have enough people in the instance [or a timer expires], a date and time for the mission are set. At this time fighting between all in the instance will become legal, and in the given system a deadspace objective would spawn. People are given bookmarks to their respective gate/side of it (one for attackers, one for defenders). Throw in a few deadspace structures, add a designated start and end time (such as 1 hour later), a few objectves (they must not kill , and objects/people, and must recover the stolen ) So rigourous fighting ensues, someone wins, faction standings are adjusted etc. One problem i can think of; If you have people in (for example) NPC corps doing this, it wouldnt be very organised and most missions would either have low participation or not happen at all. However, if people stick in groups (EG a group of corp mates/freinds who do these frequently) then it should all pan out nicely :P Then you'd get famous squads emerging... "15th Angel Dominations Wing - Undefeated in 6 engagements" etc. Of course the name of the squad would be arbitrary and not binding. Just like when people would put "Xetic Member" In their bio before Exodus Alliances, there wasnt actually a "Xetic" entity. Just some ideas, apols for the length.

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