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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:01:00 -
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This is not an offical CVA reply as I have yet to consult my other CVA colleagues...
However my initial reaction echoes that of Rodj Blake. We do not give in to blackmail and terror.
If Star Fraction wish to align their 246 pilots to the 308 terrorist pilots of Ushra'Khan then so be it.
The CVA has never been daunted by odds... We shall face this difficulty and overcome it for we have right on our side.
This is yet another example of OUTSIDERS meddling in Amarrian affairs. What right have the Gallente got to tell us how to live our lives? What right have they got to attack our traditions and customs?
The CVA has and will continue to remain steadfast in its duty towards the Empire - whether that is removing the threat of piracy from within its borders or opposing those who wish to interfere in our internal affairs. We may be outnumbered but we will continue the struggle until our dying breath for we are Amarrians, stubborn and true...
Let all Amarrians know our race is under attack, our way of life is threatened.
Do not stand idly by...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:35:00 -
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Clearly Atandros you are just jealous of my amazing charisma and attraction to your female folk. That is the real reason for this war 
Joking aside... are you simply going to regurgitate Minmatar propoganda?
What we have done to the Minmatar?
We have taken a backwards tribal people and are moulding them into valuable contributors to the galactic community.
Yes we benefit from slavery... but so do the barbaric Minmatar. They are simply too short sighted to see this.
Now stop interfering in Amarr affairs. Your involvement will come to haunt you and your people...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Atandros
Quite the acerbic tongue you have.
No, note I said personally. Jerome Atandros the individual and Jerome Atandros the Star Fraction representative are two different personas.
We have medication for that, nowadays.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:23:00 -
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Yes that confuses me as well Al Haquis...
As far as I can see Omerta Syndicate, who I have a lot of respect for, are part of the Star Fraction alliance...
Until recently Omerta Sysndicate were are war with the very Minmatar terrorists that the Star Fraction now seem to be exchanging bodily fluids with...
Has Omerta Syndicate changed its mind about the economic depredation of the terrorists? Do they support the blackmail and threats of their alliance?
Or will they sit maintain their convictions and sit this conflict out?
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Of course, we have evidence that some of you wish to enage in genocidal actions in this very thread so I don't think I am wrong to suggest hardline motivations within your ranks.
The Cosmopolite
Only in reaction to your own genocidal lunatics...
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Atandros:
You're, frankly, amazingly repulsive and, as I've said elsewhere, personally I wholeheartedly support the extermination of the CVA to the greatest degree at the earliest opportunity.
The fact is that Star Fraction has decided to interfere in affairs that concern it not...
It is Star Fraction that made the initial threat. It is Star Fraction that is attempting to blackmail us - what reaction do you expect?
Indeed we believe that Star Fraction has simply used the issue of the 500 Sebestior slaves as an EXCUSE to attack the CVA. It is our belief that Star Fraction had been conniving with terrorist elements in advance and had been planning an attack on the CVA all along.
The slave auction has merely come along at a convenient time for you to window dress your actions as 'humanitarian' and sieze the moral high ground...
But we know better. We know this is merely an excuse for the Gallente to undermine the leading organisation opposing their Minmatar friends.
We deplore your threats and blackmail and advise that you step out of this issue before you get burned.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Moreover, let's be clear, the CVA indulge in 'blackmail' daily when they impose conditions on those who wish to use Providence Region.
What a load of boll.... ermmm.... misconceptions.
Firstly the CVA only has an interest in a small part of Providence - the area which borders Amarr space.
Nor do we even claim that area - we simply patrol it to encourage open trade and business FOR ALL peaceful pilots through the minimisation of piracy.
The ONLY condition we impose on pilots is that they do not pirate while in that area.
That is it!
I do not know how a condition which in fact protects the liberty of a region's inhabitants and promotes economic vibrancy can be seen as blackmail.
It seem that you betray your own ignorance with every post you make...
I say this not to mock you but in the vain hope that you realise the just how misinformed you have clearly been by Minmatar propgandists and to save you from other more painful mistakes...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Moreover, let's be clear, the CVA indulge in 'blackmail' daily when they impose conditions on those who wish to use Providence Region.
What a load of boll.... ermmm.... misconceptions.
Firstly the CVA only has an interest in a small part of Providence - the area which borders Amarr space.
I know this, I referred to the region because you are operating in that region, even if it be only the upper area.
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Nor do we even claim that area - we simply patrol it to encourage open trade and business FOR ALL peaceful pilots through the minimisation of piracy.
In the philosophy of The Star Fraction the imposition of a standing security fleet in a region amounts to a de facto territorial claim.
Firstly, we do not maintain a standing fleet in that area.
As I mentioned our protection comes in the form of patrols and sometimes when the area is at peace you will not even come across a CVA pilot there other than a few undertaking economic activities...
Where this leaves the philosophy of the Star Fraction I do not know!
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The ONLY condition we impose on pilots is that they do not pirate while in that area.
Originally by: "From announcement of CVA 'opening' certain Providence systems"
..requirement to respect the Emperor and Amarr law...
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Don't kid yourself that what I say is derived from ignorance, rather it a view that sees beyond the rather pathetic propaganda attempts to cast yourselves as 'peacemakers' and 'champions of the oppressed'.
I suppose you would like to cast yourself in this light - after all that is what this is all about isn't it?
Rather than just talking the talk the CVA has been out and done it.
Just look at the number of pilots now operating in and around Kheram, Misaba and Mamet. These were derelict areas inhabited only by pirates... Now they are profitable and contributing parts of the Amarr Empire...
We have been there and done it. We have done our bit to minimise piracy. We have helped change people's lives for the better (as the Holder's award demonstrated)... What have you done?
What you have done is jump on a terrorist bandwagon... Your threat to us has consequences not just to the CVA but on everyone who relys on us to keep their spacelanes free of pirates and terrorists...
You should be ashamed...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
When it all boils down to it I guess its just the case that if I had to choose between peace in a society that exists on the suffering of my fellow sentients and violence and warfare and anarachy. I'd choose the latter.
So there you have it.
You exist to create violence, warfare and anarchy!
You criticise us for the inhumanity of slavery - yet you wish to create a galaxy far more chaotic, disorderly and dangerous...
The entire concept is detesable. You may view slavery as an evil but what you propose is even worse. Warfare and anarchy are not painless - far from it in fact. If you suceed you may free the slaves but who would want to be free in the society you envision.
You wish to plunge the galaxy into a new dark age - a time of terror and destruction.
Thank god such insanity will never happen!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.16 07:18:00 -
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I think everyone has already said enough in this GalNet thread particularly as the shooting has not even started yet... 
I am requesting PIE pilots to leave this communication alone for now.
It is obvious where we stand and where Star Fraction stands.
We will not give in to their threats and blackmail so we will await their next step with interest...
If it comes to war then so be it...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.16 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
The issue of the 500 slaves was a prompt and a spur to our young alliance to take action against your so-called 'open space' activities.
So you admit it was just an excuse then?
After your fellow alliance members yesterday called for a return to violence, anarchy and destruction I think I can see where your coming from.
Everything is dressed up in nice words but for you slavery is just an excuse - an excuse to justify the anarchy and lawlessness you dream of bringing about.
If 'enclosureism' is your issue why pick the CVA as your target? Surely there are larger and more patently obvious 'enclosures' throughout 0.0?
I will tell you why! Because you had a handy 'excuse' to allow your alliance to dress itself up as the good guys - as the humanitarians...
But as this thread makes patently clear you are certainly not that!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.19 14:22:00 -
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An Update
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:15:00 -
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Just so you are aware Kayleigh we did tell our pilots to leave the Glamour Bunnies alone...
However on several occasion Glamour Bunny pilots have strayed into systems where we have been occupied in hostilities with other members of Star Fraction. Systems such as Yulai and Amarr.
I am not aware of the precise situation surrounding the death of Melissandra but it is regrettable that she has got caught up in this. I know of at least one occasion where CVA pilots allowed a Glamour Bunny to pass safely.
Nonetheless you are part of an alliance that is at war with us. In the heat of battle it is not always possible to make specific identifiation on the blinking red target before action is taken.
We bear no specific grudge against Glamour Bunnies but if your pilots are going to stray into war zones then these things will happen...
Regretable but true...
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