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Exi Lost	Posted - 2005.03.15 08:07:00 - [1] If someone has a low sec rating and they ask to haul your ore. Its probably a bad idea to sit and mine for them for an hour.
Exi Lost	Posted - 2005.03.15 08:21:00 - [2] Originally by: siim fecking carebear just to clarify, i was the one who stole the stuff ;o kinda easy to steal ore if they just hand it over to you and keep mining more to take...
Domalais	Posted - 2005.03.15 08:47:00 - [3] GJ, your alt made... practically no isk, in comparison to what you could have made on your main character. But congrats on managing to ruin a noob's day while gaining nothing for yourself.
Gungankllr	Posted - 2005.03.15 10:02:00 - [4] Please post the new player's name so I can help remotivate him after you ruined his day like that. www.hadean.org
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.03.15 12:47:00 - [5] Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Macel	Posted - 2005.03.15 13:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Eris Discordia Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession. While I'm not a fan of insulting people unless its for a really good reason... I differ on that.. If you can ore thieve, scam, etc.. Insults should be free too. Depending on board rules that may get you banned, but hey, insults could be considered part of the game as well..
Ubijca Tushkanchikov	Posted - 2005.03.15 13:09:00 - [7] meh....not alot of isk to be made from that tbh tell us the miners name so that i can send him a few mill so that maybe, just maybe, he will continue to play the game... ****in orethief
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.03.15 14:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Exi Lost If someone has a low sec rating and they ask to haul your ore. Its probably a bad idea to sit and mine for them for an hour. Should have had him mine scordite all the time, plag sucks ffs.
Gift	Posted - 2005.03.15 14:27:00 - [9] thats actually kinda funny
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.03.15 15:00:00 - [10] Originally by: Macel Originally by: Eris Discordia Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession. While I'm not a fan of insulting people unless its for a really good reason... I differ on that.. If you can ore thieve, scam, etc.. Insults should be free too. Depending on board rules that may get you banned, but hey, insults could be considered part of the game as well.. GM warn for profanity as well at times. Only on the Intergalatic Summit is a bit more freedom about the rivalary between professions. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Exi Lost	Posted - 2005.03.15 16:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Gift thats actually kinda funny that was the point of the thread. and they werent noobs, well tbh they must have been to only been mining that stuff in a .5 I thought about sending them 4 mil since this is worth around 8 mil, but my corpmate advised against it bcuz I did it with my main character ina pirate corp and he didnt want us to seem soft.
Falon Knox	Posted - 2005.03.15 16:46:00 - [12] IÆd like to send the miner a few mil also. Unfortunately you canÆt believe anything an ore thief says. HeÆd probably post his alts name. Thieves are liars and liars are thieves.
Cam Conquer	Posted - 2005.03.15 17:35:00 - [13] Congrats u stole some ore, why do people keep posting stupid threads about how they stole ore and loot? u wanna get out more u muppet
Exi Lost	Posted - 2005.03.15 17:47:00 - [14] ill be honest about their names, VNCX and RND Guy 1 was in a geddon other was in a level 1 mining barge.
Kaeten	Posted - 2005.03.15 18:03:00 - [15] partly their fault for trusting a person they didn't know haul their ore... ___________________________________ Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.03.15 20:07:00 - [16] Originally by: Exi Lost my corpmate advised against it bcuz I did it with my main character ina pirate corp and he didnt want us to seem soft.
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.03.15 20:13:00 - [17] This guy taught this n00b an important lesson of Eve. Trust no one. Would Mr. N00b prefer to learn it with trusting to give someone 55 million isk downpayment to get a Megathron built or some crappy ore?
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.03.15 20:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Exi Lost ill be honest about their names, VNCX and RND Guy 1 was in a geddon other was in a level 1 mining barge. Then they obviously were not nOObs and deserved to get robbed for being so dumb. Good job Exi, thats f'n halarious. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Big doggy	Posted - 2005.03.16 02:17:00 - [19] Well Halleluah and Amen. Look it's just plain fun because you never know what you will find. Sometimes you find amazing stuff, like the times I've found harvestor drones just left in space. But it's one of the few games where you can role play a thief. You may recall in the early years of Ultima you could really role play a thief and it was a lot of fun. But of course all the people complained, so they ended it. I like stealing things especially when it's not real. This is just a game. I keep reminding folks of that. And lastly it can be very lucrative at times. The other day I ran into a very old player and he convo'd me and said "Please don't steal my stuff, please". Well, so I didn't. When you respond to my warping into the asteroid field by threatening me and calling me every name in the book, you can bet I'll steal your ore. Originally by: Eris Discordia Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession.
Hyey	Posted - 2005.03.16 03:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Exi Lost If someone has a low sec rating and they ask to haul your ore. Its probably a bad idea to sit and mine for them for an hour. Congradulations... you made absolutely nothing ~~ Hyey I just payed 15 dollars this month just to be able to respond on the forums... stupid cancellation error.
Ainsy	Posted - 2005.03.16 04:13:00 - [21] Ore Theiving is not a 'profession' anyway imo, it's just something little people do in order to make themselves feel big.
Big doggy	Posted - 2005.03.16 04:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Ainsy Ore Theiving is not a 'profession' anyway imo, it's just something little people do in order to make themselves feel big. IT'S A GAME. It's for fun. You probably say the same thing about combat, "oh they just do that to make themselves feel big".
Sadist	Posted - 2005.03.16 06:01:00 - [23] Most of people dont care anyway as the flow of isk is not disrupted, the ore gets sold anyways, and builders will buy it anyways just from another person. But thieving is a nice idea, next time i need trit for my ammo i might just go into a belt in yulai and "borrow" some 50-60k of your scord/veld. _______________________________________________
Amiga A4000	Posted - 2005.03.16 11:37:00 - [24] Actually I have had some good mineing ops with "Time Stealers" If they haul the first lot and split the profit there and then they can carry on, sometimes making triple what they would make. We have a laugh, a chat about things in general, but I always give them the last haul FOC as it's going to be stolen anyway. No such thing as an ore stealer, you jet can at your own risk but they can steal the time it took to fill your cans. It's only a game. Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make it's own judgements.
Qayos	Posted - 2005.03.16 12:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Eris Discordia Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession. Isn't insulting a pair of miners the entire point of this thread? Or did you really think he was trying to give helpfull advice?
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2005.03.16 14:31:00 - [26] Originally by: Qayos Originally by: Eris Discordia Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession. Isn't insulting a pair of miners the entire point of this thread? Or did you really think he was trying to give helpfull advice? It's still a bit of advice, but feel free to make a guide that explain how to limit the risks or ore stealing, scamming and ore thieving for new players in particular. Even last night I explained to a character, who was 3 months old. that when he enters 0.0 people can shoot at him and there is no protection. You may know that and take it for granted but alot of people still don't know how it works and for instance dont know where to get containers and what the difference is with a secure container. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Pollie	Posted - 2005.03.16 15:43:00 - [27] Sir, If this is the crowning achievement of your EVE career, congratulations! Now try it wit some ores that are worth more than nothing
Big doggy	Posted - 2005.03.16 18:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Pollie Sir, If this is the crowning achievement of your EVE career, congratulations! Now try it wit some ores that are worth more than nothing OK let me know when and where your next 0.0 mining op is, and I'll show up in my BS and steal your ore!
Quinn TheEskimo	Posted - 2005.03.17 19:55:00 - [29] My next mining op will be this weekend in old man star system. feel free to come and attempt to steal the ore.
Jane Vladmir	Posted - 2005.03.17 23:10:00 - [30] concawhat veldspar that's veldspar tech2?
Nihn Lemai	Posted - 2005.03.18 11:26:00 - [31] First I reacted pretty much like everybody else... "bah stupid moron ruining this noobs first eve experience". But then I saw the amount of our actually stolen... and then that there were two guys, one in a geddon and the other one in a barge. Those people are NOT noobs... which makes the ore stealing more than ok in my eyes. Eve is a game... there are no rules except the ones that forbides exploits and harassment.
Quinn TheEskimo	Posted - 2005.03.18 19:03:00 - [32]
Verone	Posted - 2005.03.19 11:32:00 - [33] Edited by: Verone on 19/03/2005 11:31:40 Originally by: Quinn TheEskimo ^^what he said. Behold, Teh Answer To All Your Problems COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.03.19 17:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Qayos Originally by: Eris Discordia Keep it friendly. In EVE you can either be a pirate, a miner, a trader and apparantly an ore thief. That doesn't mean you can insult people if they do not share your profession. Isn't insulting a pair of miners the entire point of this thread? Or did you really think he was trying to give helpfull advice? It's still a bit of advice, but feel free to make a guide that explain how to limit the risks or ore stealing, scamming and ore thieving for new players in particular. Even last night I explained to a character, who was 3 months old. that when he enters 0.0 people can shoot at him and there is no protection. You may know that and take it for granted but alot of people still don't know how it works and for instance dont know where to get containers and what the difference is with a secure container. Amen to that. A few days ago I was in a 0.5 system with one of my m8s and this guy in a phoon kept taking the loot from his kills. Then the guy targets my m8's ship and tries to toll him, claiming Concorde won't save him, so I hopped in in my Ferox and tried to toll the Phoon. The guy almost payed until one of his m8s popped in and said "hey stupid, you're in .5....you're going to get concordokened". While I have the sneaking suspicion that Typhoon + Kestrel (brought in later when I kept getting the loot before his phoon could) + trying to gank in 0.5 + nearly paying a Ferox to save a Phoon = ebay, this does illustrate the amount of new people who don't RTFM. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Exi Lost	Posted - 2005.03.19 18:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Corvus Dove While I have the sneaking suspicion that Typhoon + Kestrel (brought in later when I kept getting the loot before his phoon could) + trying to gank in 0.5 + nearly paying a Ferox to save a Phoon = ebay, this does illustrate the amount of new people who don't RTFM. actually i wouldnt be suprised if they didnt ebay. because i had a friend i played with for around a year who was always a miner and stuff and turned pvp and had it in his head u could kill people in anything other than 1.0, i told him to try to if he didnt beleive me, he did and got wtfpwned by concord with a raven fit with all mid-named modules. i called him a dumbass and laughed ;p he just laughed and said i was right ;]
Maik002	Posted - 2005.03.28 11:26:00 - [36] Edited by: Maik002 on 28/03/2005 11:26:50 Originally by: Eris Discordia Even last night I explained to a character, who was 3 months old. that when he enters 0.0 people can shoot at him and there is no protection. You may know that and take it for granted but alot of people still don't know how it works and for instance dont know where to get containers and what the difference is with a secure container. You forgot to explain him how to anchor a secure container in 0.8... A secure container in 0.8 - 1.0 is useless. Griefers, scammers, ore thieves, some kind of mercenaries and other "professions" are only a easy way for lamers, but useless for the game and the real players. A miner pays for months of mining, he¦s good for the other players as a victim for pirates, a customer for producers. He is an important key for the Eve economy as he do the job that nobody wants to do. So keep them safely. Thay have no way to keep safe if someone wants to steal his ore in 0.8 or declare a war only for a bounty. A griefer, scammer or thief is a leech. He gets rich for free. He lows the morale of anyone who cross on his way. He don¦t do anything good to nobody but himself. Makes ppl quit Eve, not only noobs. They make other professions like miner or trader a question of good or bad look. And the worst thing. They have Concord on his side ; ((( IMO, CCP must do something more about this kind of "players".
Soue	Posted - 2005.03.28 13:02:00 - [37] Edited by: Soue on 28/03/2005 13:02:50 i think a problem most people have over ore theives is that they almost always use alts to do it, then once the alt gets a bad rep they make a new one, if people stuck to one character and actually could be identified as a ore theif then it would be a little easier to handle, because with a little bit of common sense you could avoid it in my opinion, making a character than can use an indy within a few days and pretending to be a n00b helping other n00bs, then channeling all your ISK into a main account and deleting the character when it gets a bad rep isnt a proffession, eve is supposed to be a persistent world, there is nothing persistent about the influx of 14day alts i havent ever been a victim of ore theft, but i know people who didnt get past thier 14 day trial because thier first experience was of something like this, if ore theivery is stopping people from playing isnt that bad for us all? the only way to combat ore theives in my opinion is to play them at their own game, make a kamakazi alt yourself, load em into a missile boat and wave byebye to the low level indy that the ore theif is flying, sure concord will "wtfpzwn" you, just make sure your parked right next to the guy so your missiles hit if making an alt to steal ore is a proffession then making an alt to protect yourself is also valid
Maik002	Posted - 2005.03.28 15:03:00 - [38] Edited by: Maik002 on 28/03/2005 15:03:36 +Have you tried to blow a Iteron I with a single kestrel flown by a noob alt? Two rounds of light missiles aren¦t enough to destroy the smallest indy. So thiefs + concord are the winers again.
Big doggy	Posted - 2005.03.28 23:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Soue Edited by: Soue on 28/03/2005 13:02:50 i think a problem most people have over ore theives is that they almost always use alts to do it, then once the alt gets a bad rep they make a new one, if people stuck to one character and actually could be identified as a ore theif then it would be a little easier to handle, because with a little bit of common sense you could avoid it in my opinion, making a character than can use an indy within a few days and pretending to be a n00b helping other n00bs, then channeling all your ISK into a main account and deleting the character when it gets a bad rep isnt a proffession, eve is supposed to be a persistent world, there is nothing persistent about the influx of 14day alts i havent ever been a victim of ore theft, but i know people who didnt get past thier 14 day trial because thier first experience was of something like this, if ore theivery is stopping people from playing isnt that bad for us all? the only way to combat ore theives in my opinion is to play them at their own game, make a kamakazi alt yourself, load em into a missile boat and wave byebye to the low level indy that the ore theif is flying, sure concord will "wtfpzwn" you, just make sure your parked right next to the guy so your missiles hit if making an alt to steal ore is a proffession then making an alt to protect yourself is also valid The above quote is complete and utter nonsense without one word that even makes sense.

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