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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.03.15 21:21:00 -
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There are things in the EVE DB to suggest the Devs were playing around with a system for "hacking" things, such as secure cans, and POS shield passwords and whatnot. Noted on these items were references to the Black Ops ships.
Black Ops ships are most likely going to be used for hacking cans, bypassing conquerable station docking permissions, "opening" a POS for destruction and other such things.
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2005.03.15 23:06:00 -
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I don't think they'll get given cloaks, as that would basically remove the point of Covops - only people who can already fly them would, everyone else would train Stealth Bombers. Unless the bombers were so incredibly slow that you could scout much better in a covops, but a T2 frig that'd be comparable in speed to say... a BC? People'd hate it.
No, I think "stealth" means low-low sig radius, so that they can come in like an inty, hard-to-hit, but slower and less agile to warp. They'll have their own bomb-launchers, not existing launchers, and they'll be short-range, high damage. ---:::---
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.03.15 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: El Yatta I don't think they'll get given cloaks, as that would basically remove the point of Covops - only people who can already fly them would, everyone else would train Stealth Bombers. Unless the bombers were so incredibly slow that you could scout much better in a covops, but a T2 frig that'd be comparable in speed to say... a BC? People'd hate it.
No, I think "stealth" means low-low sig radius, so that they can come in like an inty, hard-to-hit, but slower and less agile to warp. They'll have their own bomb-launchers, not existing launchers, and they'll be short-range, high damage.
they could be given bonuses to cloaking, but that doesn't mean they could warp while cloaked. Maybe somthing like being able to lock targets while cloaked? Or use mwd? who knows? _______________________________________________________
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.03.15 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci Devs> Hey guys "Stealth bombers"
Players> Hey, that sounds interesting. What is it?
Devs> ............
Crickit noises
...all summed up -------------------
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Arkanis
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Posted - 2005.03.15 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanis on 15/03/2005 23:21:39 I think they've shelved the Black Ops and making the Covert Ops the locator and making the bomber into an interdictor type.
Equinox II was kind enough to grab these stats before the BH cloaked.
http://tinyurl.com/4ufnj/
I don't know why it has one turret point, considering its previous incarnation as a kestrel didn't.
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.03.16 00:03:00 -
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if thats how it is thats lame....that thing couldn't kill a crow :( It should be something like 5 launchers with 2 or 3 missile bonus's, pretty slow, long targeting range and beefed up resists....cloaking bonus would just be stupid as well unless we got all that stuff plus cov ops cloaking bonus...
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.03.16 00:08:00 -
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ignore my former topic thats basically what it is in that screenshot.....it should still have 1 or 2 more missile hardpoints
Check the gravimetric sensor strength and targeting range 0.o and maybe there will be like a scrambler that works at 40km
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.03.16 00:15:00 -
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these things shouldn't be just like af's. _______________________________________________________
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xenorx
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Posted - 2005.03.16 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson ignore my former topic thats basically what it is in that screenshot.....it should still have 1 or 2 more missile hardpoints
Check the gravimetric sensor strength and targeting range 0.o and maybe there will be like a scrambler that works at 40km
Yeah it is a bit to early to fully judge based only on a screen shot. Looks interesting though. Would have been nice to get a screen shot of the description to see what the bonuses are. I hate the turret slot on a kessie though. That is just wrong! Nice lock range though. Speed is 195 so not a speed demon that is for sure. 5 high slots with 1 turret and 3 launchers so it has a extra high slot for a cloak. Will be interesting to see.
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Idara
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Posted - 2005.03.16 00:27:00 -
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Bomber implies that it should r0x0r against larger ships, cruisers, BC's and BS's. Meaning that it'd need some special "bombers only" weapon. They shouldn't be able to even SNEEZE at interceptors and frigates.
Low sig radius, slow, not maneuverable, INSANE damage vs. cruisers and higher. WEAK suckas, a salvo or two from a frigate should erase them.
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Weston McArthur
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Posted - 2005.03.16 01:02:00 -
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I'm incredibly confused about why we're still doing tech 2 frigates, esp when we have three specialty ones arleady (scout, tackler, and omgwtfpwner). So what, exactly, is this junk heap supposed to specialize in?
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Nanus Parkite
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Posted - 2005.03.16 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Weston McArthur So what, exactly, is this junk heap supposed to specialize in?
Replace cruise launching kessies I expect, only with a more realistic skill and financial investment.
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Exarch
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Posted - 2005.03.16 02:16:00 -
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i hope that screenshot isnt correct, that elite kessy was a hunk of junk.. 3 missile slots.. a turrent and a utility on a frig lol. not even assualt resists.
only way i can see it being useful is if it can fire while cloaked.
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falkyns
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Posted - 2005.03.16 02:32:00 -
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I thought there was talk of a ship for caldari called the manticore which was an improved kessie with 5 missle slots and a bonus that increased the range of light missles and rockets.
Perhaps stealth merely refers to the fact they were all talk and no one had seen them.
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Branmuffin
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Posted - 2005.03.16 04:15:00 -
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Manticore is the BOMBER, these are the STEALTH Bombers.
These are meant to work with cloaks.
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Nomen Nescio
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Posted - 2005.03.16 04:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nomen Nescio on 16/03/2005 04:43:47 Combat:
Your shiny brand-new-uber-rare-1-bpo-available-in-game-only-BIG-sells-them STEALTH BOMBER hit cruise FOF missle for bye-bye-no-insurace-ever damage
Combat:
Your FOF cruise missle fired on something and hit someone for hopefully great damage.
Adding a new class of ships TOGETHER with new EW and BEFORE missle changes is just nuts. But I guess, with another toy some uber corp will become slightly richer.
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Zel0ta
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Posted - 2005.03.16 05:35:00 -
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I have it here
stelth bombers are a deadly tool in the right persons hand this one was developed by core tec
hull: kestrel
special abillity 2000- on powergrind for siege lunchers and 700- on cpu for siege lunchers
stelth bomber bonus 10% bonus to missile damige and missile luncher rof 10% bonus to missile velocity per level
caldahari frigate bonus 5% bonus to all missile damige tipes 5% bonus to ship velocity
slots 5 hi 3 mid 3 low
5 missile hard points
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Zel0ta
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Posted - 2005.03.16 05:35:00 -
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I have it here
stelth bombers are a deadly tool in the right persons hand this one was developed by core tec
hull: kestrel
special abillity 2000- on powergrind for siege lunchers and 700- on cpu for siege lunchers
stelth bomber bonus 10% bonus to missile damige and missile luncher rof 10% bonus to missile velocity per level
caldahari frigate bonus 5% bonus to all missile damige tipes 5% bonus to ship velocity
slots 5 hi 3 mid 3 low
5 missile hard points
I havent slept for 32 HOURS NOW but im on my pills BUT 32 HOURS WOHOO im doing.....GREAT! |
Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2005.03.16 05:38:00 -
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How about....
A cruiser that can have a payload of five citidel torps and fire one at a time :)
mmmm Arbitrator citidel launcher
cheers
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2005.03.16 10:29:00 -
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I don't care if it's only got 1 high slot, 0 mids and 0 lows
ITS CLOAKS, I WANT IT NOW
Mongo speaks !!
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Hella May
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Posted - 2005.03.16 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Malafant I'd imagine something like a Tech 2 Kestrel.
- Can fit maybe 2 siege launchers (gets a grid and cpu bonus for them, like the covert ops ship and cloak). - Can target a ship while cloaked (though all other cloaking restrictions apply).
Approach to within 10km of target, decloak and launch torps, then run away. Individually not a major threat, but in groups would be deadly.
Kestrals used to be able to fit torps and cruise missles. Why would ccp remove the option and then bring it back again?
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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F4ze
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Posted - 2005.03.16 10:39:00 -
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A bomber to me would be a ship with: a big damage bonus a big missile speed bonus a ROF penalty
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TomB
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Posted - 2005.03.16 11:02:00 -
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.03.16 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: TomB
TomB, I know you get irked at players sometimes, but could you post something constructive please?
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.03.16 11:42:00 -
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Talmssar
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Posted - 2005.03.16 11:49:00 -
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Tomb's answer tells whole debate...
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.03.16 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: TomB
Originally by: forum rules
20. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful, provided that it is presented in a civil, factual manner. Tell us what you don't like and why and how you feel it could be improved. Posts that are insulting and rude may be deleted, no matter how valid the ideas behind them may be.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2005.03.16 12:07:00 -
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he posted that so there would be lots of posts here IMO, i recon he hasnt made his mind up about how they will work and he wants us to post ideas and he'll consider the best.
I think a frigate with a couple of one shot torps would be cool, maybe a couple of one shot cruise.
I think it would be cool if it uncloaked like a bird of prey, and it had to be stationary when it uncloaked. maybe make the torps it fires travel at 1/2 speed so it has to get in real close... (make them dumb torps! so they only travel in a straight line!) but these torps are very slow, so it has to uncloak really close...
Ive changed my mind, make it into a small cruiser like the stabber, that would be a bit more bird of prey like. It would be very vulnerable to smartbombs tho, make it real spindly and weak.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.03.16 12:13:00 -
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or maybe they are ships that can cloak, move the center of a fleet, leave behind a handfull of destructive non-moving med-radius bombs, warp out. then... boom ffs, frigates fitting sieges... thats like saying: mercedes special ability: can fit a nuke cannon on top of it.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.03.16 12:19:00 -
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Didn't someone post a link to bombers on the EVE-I database once? The Caldari one was lethal with it having six launcher hardpoints and 10% damage to bombs per level.....with bombs doing around 900 damage per hit but only having a 10 second flight time.
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