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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
609
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Posted - 2012.10.21 02:52:00 -
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Bataav wrote:pilots of the State militia intervened, despite there being no agreement with the IPI, to challenge Coreli Corporation and other opportunistic pirates.
You see, this is something that strikes me as curious. There shouldn't need to be an agreement, with either Militia.
This is essentially a Serpentis loyalist attack on Intaki citizens and the local trade and industry commerce. It's an attempt to destabilize the infrastructure in a system that works as a key market hub in the middle of a warzone.
It should be in the best interests of both militias to support the populace here, and continue to enjoy the benefits of their work. Enjoy your gaming.
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:48:00 -
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Sakaane Eionell wrote:So because boosters make people into more efficient killing machines, that makes them acceptable? Of course we shouldn't try to focus on ending the war, no, not at all. Let's just pump ourselves full of narcotics and bathe in each other's blood while we trip out instead. Yes, that sounds exactly like the kind of world I and many others want to live in. This war has been brewing for years and is spiraling out of control as we speak. Its far too late to try and prevent it so the question boils down to which side you want to be on; the winning or the losing side?
Sakaane Eionell wrote:The collective pool of knowledge your organizations represent could offer New Eden drugs that do actual useful things. But Serpentis drugs don't cure disease, manage mental or physical infirmities, or anything else positive. They simply promote death. The applications for neural boosters are quite extensive but unfortunately research requires money. If the product you're researching, like combat boosters, is a profitable one then this is not a problem. Unfortunately those diseases that are hard to cure generally aren't profitable and with a ban on neural booster research you're not going to find many companies looking to sponsor its research.
Sakaane Eionell wrote:Besides, if boosters really were the boon you proclaim them to be, pirate organizations like yours wouldn't be the ones manufacturing them. Sarpati and company wouldn't need to hide behind Angels in lawless space in order to do their dirty work.
The majority of boosters originate outside of empire space, and what can be found inside empire space has to be smuggled in or produced in shady, underground laboratories where I can only imagine the health and safety standards leave much to be desired. The majority of these boostersGÇöthe ones you say bestow that so-called "massive tactical advantage"GÇöcarry legal penalties in a long list of jurisdictions. These penalties didn't come about by accident. Throughout history the advancement of science has always been hampered by the narrow minded, the poorly educated and the perpetually frightened. The universe once thought being able to swim meant you were an evil sorcerer and made it punishable by death.
Sakaane Eionell wrote:There are billions of common people who are at very high risk from using boosters. Don't for a second expect me to believe you take any care whatsoever in making sure the drugs you peddle are kept out of their hands. The more you sell, all the better for you. Ignoring for a moment that combat boosters serve no purpose in being consumed by regular people you'll also find the price tag, which ranges from hundreds of thousands of credits to double digit millions, is well out of reach from the general population.
Sakaane Eionell wrote:Regardless of who uses them, narcotics, which as I pointed out form the base of booster production, are highly addictive in both a physical and emotional way. Boosters, like any drug, are poisonous to the body and interfere with areas such as neurotransmission. With repeated use, substances which alter natural brain functions result in destroyed nerve fibers, which in turn means the user has to use even more of (or more potent variations of) the drug to achieve the same level of functionality experienced before. Being off the drug reveals the damage done, as nerve fibers don't grow back. The stronger the drug (booster) required, the higher the chance of suffering even more serious side effects becomes. You'll find current generation boosters have none of those effects. The only downside boosters currently have is that without a few days worth of mental exercises the user will occasionally suffer some side effects which go away as soon as the booster wears off. |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:50:00 -
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It seems Galnet has become quite limited, so a follow up for the rest;
Bataav wrote:Of course if Serpentis and their Coreli affiliates really were interested in the "innocent" pursuits of trade and commerce, I'd expect them to make good use of established and growing markets such as Intaki 5-5. The system benefits from established infrastructure but instead their pilots make repeated attempts to undo the efforts of others, through repeated (failed) attempts on ILF customs offices, we must assume with the intention to start over, at cost.
It's not quite the efficient business model I'd expect from a group of their age, intent on "peaceful trading". You'll find market hubs work best when the area surrounding them is safe for traders to use rather then ravaged by roaming pirate gangs. The Federation has no interest in securing the placid region, they are perfectly content stripping it of any valuable resources while ignoring its infrastructure and inhabitants.
The Serpentis Corporation on the other hand has had military assets in the region for years and has made many attempts to improve its infrastructure. Unfortunately their fleets and installations are not designed to handle the endless onslaught of capsuleers who will happily and without warning destroy non-capsuleer piloted vessels and its crew so he or she can rummage through the burning wreckage for some salvage.
So that's where we come in; our job is to erode Federation support and infrastructure in the region so that the Serpentis Corporation expeditionary forces can set up the installations required for a full scale military intervention. Once the region is secure reconstruction of local infrastructure can begin.
As for the war; 15 days in, 1.3 billion isk in your assets destroyed, any effort on the IPI's part to fight back has been without result and ~10% of the IPI's member base has left and sought employment elsewhere.
And since you brought up the customs offices; Hiding behind your allies wont prevent us from destroying them, it only delays us. One has been destroyed so far and since we were reinforcing one of yours once again this morning we took the liberty of reinforcing one of the Ishuk-Raata ones as well to thank them on your behalf for assisting them. |

John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
203
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Posted - 2012.10.23 02:20:00 -
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Quote:Hiding behind your allies.
Plenty of that going around on both sides. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. |

Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
76
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:48:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:The Serpentis Corporation on the other hand has had military assets in the region for years and has made many attempts to improve its infrastructure. It is no secret that Serpentis have been fouling Placid for longer than they should have. But this claim you have about "attempts to improve" the infrastructure of the region. Provide proof, please, that the Serpentis do anything other than help themselves at the expense of others. When has the public ever benefited from what society at large and the law consider a criminal group?
Joshua Foiritain wrote:As for the war; 15 days in, 1.3 billion isk in your assets destroyed, any effort on the IPI's part to fight back has been without result and ~10% of the IPI's member base has left and sought employment elsewhere. Congratulations. You can blow up a target (the Customs Office) which doesn't run away and doesn't fire back. As for the other losses, we have already provided our comments on such events in prior posts. They are regrettable, and we don't deny they happened.
As for our member base: twist it any way you like. Irrespective of your presence, the IPI council continues with its day to day responsibilities, which includes consideration to dismiss inactive corporations from the alliance banner. LEAPI's dismissal was already under consideration prior to the war declaration, and subsequently finalized despite it. If we choose to dismiss a few more corporations in the near future then we will do so, and the war will have nothing to do with it.
The other pilots who have recently left us were advised by us to do so. These individuals are miners and industrialists who have no interest in war. They work with us because their interests align with IPI's economic goals for the Intaki sovereignty. They did not want to go, but they do have quotas to fill, contract deadlines to meet, and so on. We wish them well and look forward to having them rejoin us in the future.
Joshua Foiritain wrote:Hiding behind your allies I am grateful to have allies I can call upon in a time of need. IPI has always been an industrial alliance at heart, and combat has never been our true focus. In the past, the alliance had a preference to pursue peaceful resolutions to the problems in the Intaki sovereignty, and resorted to violence only when necessary. Where the Serpentis are concerned, it is true that convincing them to turn from their path of illegal activity is a futile endeavor. The baseliner captains refused time and again to answer hails with anything other than the discharge of weapons, so yes, we destroy them wherever we find them.
As for facing your forces, I am not afraid to admit that we are at a disadvantage. I feel no shame in knowing I must ask trusted allies to have our back while we work on our combat readiness, and I will gladly repay these allies for their kindness in time. Our past choices have led us to this; now we simply will make other choices, and move forward on our path.
As for your demands that we cease our anti-Serpentis activity and surrender: I think not. Standing up against pirate activity in Intaki, howsoever we are able to do so, is a fundamental tenet of the alliance and you will find we have a stronger resolve than you think. We will not turn a blind eye to pirate activity simply because you come along and try to bully us into it. In the meantime, I suppose you are free to continue paying CONCORD for the war. As we get ourselves organized we will happily benefit from any practice you'll provide without annoying security status loss or gate gun interference.
IPI will endure. Sakaane Eionell Isha-Sainika, ILF; President, IPI
- Solitary Pilot | @ILFCorp - |

Adeptus mecanicus
The Flaming Sideburn's Waterboard
269
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Posted - 2012.11.08 01:01:00 -
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From our experience with coreli and the war reports im reading i have to say CRII doing very well as usual, they are a corp thats been temperd in curse and has a experienced crew to field so you might wanna take Mr Foiritain up on his offer.
seems they allready won the morale war considering they had to move on to destroying customs offices due to lack of engagement in space, Best of luck to CRII from us still in curse and the bets are still open here in the bar at Archangels assembly plant in PO4F-3 tho the odds are so bad that i dont belive anyone will bet against CRII........well any sane person that is 
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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
113
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Posted - 2012.11.08 03:13:00 -
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It's interesting to read the various opinions on the war so far from different perspectives. From experience I've found it's often the case that the opinions of those who challenge us are innacurate or display a fundamental misunderstanding of who we are and what we stand for.
Blinkered by cold statistics, by the kill/loss ratios of combat reports and estimated isk losses inflicted upon one another, those in Coreli Corporation and their supporters on the sidelines are quick to claim victory.
Too quick.
This is not a war of numbers. This is a war of ideology. In his public declaration, one month ago today, Mr Foiritain stated very clearly his organisation's single objective:
Joshua Foiritain wrote:...disrupt the IPIGÇÖs anti-Serpentis military operations... Coreli Corporation have failed to achieve their objective: the IPI endures as promised and our pilots continue to successfully challenge the Serpentis threat in Intaki and beyond.
And then there is talk of the battle for morale. Spectators might point to changes in the corporate membership of the IPI as evidence of the Coreli success. Were they to look closer, however, they would see that the alliance council has been liaising with these corporations long before Coreli Corporation's arrival. Over a period of months, the Council has been reviewing the ever-changing priorities, areas of operation and activity levels of its members, to come to agreement over ongoing participation with full IPI status. An active alliance leadership, keeping the IPI relevent to its objectives, is hardly evidence of Coreli winning the war.
Indeed, morale within the IPI is high. We should perhaps thank Coreli Corporation for acting as a catalyst. The ILF in particular has seen an increase in enthusiasm for the cause. Recruitment continues and we are contacted regularly by other corporations keen to forge ties with us.
In contrast though, as our activities continue, regardless of any Coreli threat, we have noted a drop in presence from their pilots. Instead they are reported as active, away from Intaki in Black Rise.
Perhaps, despite their salesman-styled reassurances to potential customers that there are no risks to the abuse of boosters, a particular side effect may be a stunted attention span. It seems their responsibilities to defend their Serpentis masters is no longer enough to sate their aggression and so with an ever-increasing list of war targets, and declaring war on members of the State militia to grow them further, Coreli now occupies itself moving from location to location.
It seems they will even completely contradict their attempts to play the upstanding, concerned antipirate group(3), attacking an unrelated corporation - the Department of Health and Wellness - who they refer to as "innocent bystanders" but are all too happy to inflict losses regardless and then congratulate themselves on their own GalNet portal over the theft of a small POS tower.
So again, this is not a war of numbers, but one of patience and commitment to one's cause.
I said in my initial response here, Coreli Corporation are not the first to arrive and loudly proclaim a change in the landscape only to move on afterwards. And so as I flew throughout the Viriette constellation earlier this evening I noted that I was there and Coreli Corporation were not. Some things never change.
Intaki endures. Bataav en Gravonere. Diplomat. Intaki Liberation Front |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1134
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:10:00 -
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It's funny all the snakes suddenly crowing about victory, because I've heard from reliable sources that whenever IPI actually undock, there's narry a Coreli who'll actually stand up and shoot them without a warp-stabbed heavy battlecruiser. Mane 614
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch Liandri Covenant
177
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:26:00 -
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Adeptus mecanicus wrote:seems they allready won the morale war considering they had to move on to destroying customs offices due to lack of engagement in space
I saw them attacking Customs office so NAERY engaged then, two against four. Sadly Mr. Foiritan was flying a ship (Oracle class battlecruiser) with warp core stabilisers so we only killed three of their ships. This was fairly amusing behavior from a self-designated pirate.
Then I saw they put their own customs office up so I destroyed that too because I could. After that Coreli declared war on us but i've yet to see them in Ladistier. Though i've heard reports that they like to hide in high-sec space under CONCORD protection. This of course is extremely ironic bureaucratic oversight on their part... |

Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
53
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:39:00 -
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Damar Rocarion wrote:Though i've heard reports that they like to hide in high-sec space under CONCORD protection. This of course is extremely ironic bureaucratic oversight on their part...
Perhaps there is something that could be done about that.... |
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1136
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:40:00 -
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Wow. Didn't think Damar would coroborate my sources, but yeah. Warp-stabbed battlecruisers? I mean, really? Mane 614
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
72
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Posted - 2012.11.09 06:31:00 -
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A rudimentary search seems to show that the Intaki Liberation Front (And now the Intaki Prosperity Initiative) appears to have a long history of being targeted due to its high public profile and perceived weakness as a 'soft target' in order for what I assume are attempts to ride on the coat-tails of those who already have a name for themselves.
The only question here is if Coreli will be able to rise above their own mediocrity or if they will simply warp back away on stabilized cores once they realize there is more to life than mere posturing. Kaalakiota Corporation. Caldari Providence Directorate.
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Vendrin
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
0
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Posted - 2012.11.10 11:37:00 -
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Mr. Foritan,
You do not know me, but your actions in the distant past have formed me into the pilot I am today. What you started with Coreli and the Cyrene Initiative sparked a war of ideas within my conscience and set me on a path of freedom from the chains of shame and duty that tied me and those who I employed to the State.
I doubt you care, but your actions have had far reach consequences. May they do so again. If you wish to speak of mutually beneficial possibilities, please do not hesitate to contact me.
-Vendrin Latanis |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.11.11 12:47:00 -
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Bataav wrote:In contrast though, as our activities continue, regardless of any Coreli threat, we have noted a drop in presence from their pilots. Instead they are reported as active, away from Intaki in Black Rise. With the massive loss of active pilots you are suffering and the destruction of your customs offices we found ourselves short on targets and have diverted some of our attention to other tasks. Do not be alarmed; we are still here and we are watching you. Should your pilots provide targets for us to shoot we will be happy to oblige.
Considering the threat the Amarr Empire poses to the Federation we felt it would be irresponsible not to take this opportunity to stomp down on their loyalists. You'll find all the other pilots you turned into meat-shields are unharmed.
Besides, you were the ones that threw them under the bus to begin with, not much point in protesting now.
Bataav wrote:So again, this is not a war of numbers, but one of patience and commitment to one's cause. I said in my initial response here, Coreli Corporation are not the first to arrive and loudly proclaim a change in the landscape only to move on afterwards. And so as I flew throughout the Viriette constellation earlier this evening I noted that I was there and Coreli Corporation were not. Some things never change. Intaki endures. I think you'll find we have not yet claimed victory and have no intention of doing so prematurely. You appear to assume we expect to cripple your alliance overnight but i can assure you we are well aware we do not have the 24 hour coverage required to do so and as such we expect this campaign to drag out for months.
I would also like to take this opportunity to congratulate you on your successful journey through the Viriette constellation. Just remember that just because you do not see Coreli pilots doesn't mean we are not watching you.
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Wow. Didn't think Damar would coroborate my sources, but yeah. Warp-stabbed battlecruisers? I mean, really? Hes quite right. We quickly realized the IPI was incapable of defending their own assets and we would be facing the Ishuk-Raata Directive instead. Obviously their superior numbers posed a problem for us so we came up with a solution. Our battlecruiser setups allowed us to quickly and repeatedly reinforce their customs offices and as we expected; their allies quickly gave up fighting the IPI's battle for them and the IPI was forced to deal with us on their own.
They failed.
Damar Rocarion wrote:Though i've heard reports that they like to hide in high-sec space under CONCORD protection. This of course is extremely ironic bureaucratic oversight on their part... Considering we are officially at war i wouldn't exactly cal it hiding but you're welcome to come and visit us in Stacmon.
Its interesting how the IPI calls us the bad guys for working with Serpentis but then turn around and join forces with an organization which is not only an enemy of the Federation but has also been deemed worthy of being killed on sight by Navy and Militia forces. Not to mention the alarming frequency with which they break CONCORD laws in low sec. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1143
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Posted - 2012.11.11 12:56:00 -
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Damage control is best left to the professionals, Joshua, although I'm sure I can set you up with a lovely Tech II DC unit at a reasonable price if your need for one is as desperate as it appears to be. Mane 614
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Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
84
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:39:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:With the massive loss of active pilots you are suffering Anyone who only considers the mathematics of our member count will probably come to this conclusion, and I suppose if this shallow assessment satisfies such people, there is little to be done about it. On the other hand, it occurs to me that if Coreli had initially done better research into IPI then they might not need those DC II units that Mr Ixiris is so kindly offering.
I'll take this opportunity, then, to freely provide some illumination for those who care to know what the math actually means.
First, just to clear up any confusion: The Intaki Prosperity Initiative is not a Federation-aligned alliance. Neither is it State-aligned, nor aligned to any other empire. Historically, IPI has not had a stated political agenda (in contrast to the Intaki Liberation Front) other than improvement of the status quo in Intaki and the surrounding systems. As part of this, yes, IPI stands against pirate elements like the Serpentis, but to date the majority of the alliance's operations have been non-combat in nature, which our combat-readiness obviously shows.
In April of this year, at the behest of the IPI Council I opened deliberations regarding the status of our membership. At the time we had approximately 12 or 13 corporations under our banner. The truth? Ten corporations (that's 75%) were inactive and overall had been inactive for the majority of the alliance's existence. Attempts were made to reach these corporations, and when most of those attempts failed to produce results, the council systematically began voting to dismiss them. Two corporations did respond: one opted to close its doors while the other voluntarily withdrew from IPI to pursue other ventures.
This process of dismissal has taken about seven months to complete. Of the ten corporations originally identified, the final two were just dismissed in the last week.
So. The pilots that we "lost" by dismissing these corps are actually irrelevant to us because they were never in space anyway. There is no reason for IPI to carry dead weight.
Concurrent to these deliberations, IPI welcomed two new corporations: DAROK and EKEN. In this last week, EKEN has also voluntarily withdrawn from IPI due to other commitments preventing it from actively contributing.
I'm extremely satisfied to see the council being proactive about our membership. We now have a tighter, more efficient group, and as we move forward we are going to continue to address issues regarding inactive membership within the corporations that remain.
Where does this leave us? Ah yes. The movement of a handful of non-combat pilots from IPI. But as I already stated:
Sakaane Eionell wrote:The other pilots who have recently left us were advised by us to do so. These individuals are miners and industrialists who have no interest in war. They work with us because their interests align with IPI's economic goals for the Intaki sovereignty. They did not want to go, but they do have quotas to fill, contract deadlines to meet, and so on. We wish them well and look forward to having them rejoin us in the future.
Having clarified this, context is now brought to Mr Foiritan's comment:
Joshua Foiritain wrote:we found ourselves short on targets Obviously, you were always going to be short on targets by choosing to declare war on us when you did. You must not be watching very closely. Don't blame us because you didn't do your homework.
Joshua Foiritain wrote:Besides, you were the ones that threw them under the bus to begin with, not much point in protesting now. You chose to declare war on a corporation which was not a member of the Intaki Prosperity Initiative. True, that corporation had initially taken in a number of our non-combat pilots. But since that corporation was not a member of IPI, IPI leadership had no authority nor influence over any action its CEO undertook.
Joshua Foiritain wrote:Its interesting how the IPI calls us the bad guys for working with Serpentis but then turn around and join forces with an organization which is not only an enemy of the Federation but has also been deemed worthy of being killed on sight by Navy and Militia forces Since IPI is not aligned with any empire, it doesn't matter to us who anyone's navy/militia deems an enemy. IPI maintains relationships with many groups across New Eden, and many of those groups hate each other. We judge them on their own merits and how they interact with us.
In actual fact, in this war we have not "joined forces" with anyone. The public war panel shows no groups have officially allied with us. It's true that several Caldari-aligned corps have been assisting when they can. We gratefully recognize that IPI has benefited from their activities and we do not begrudge that their attention must largely remain focused elsewhere. We're thankful for their desire to work more closely with IPI and are looking at ways to allow that to happen in the future.
As it stands, IPI also owes Coreli some gratitude. Your war declaration has provided us with an opportunity for useful introspection. In addition to our combat readiness, you have helped highlight other areas in need of attention. Now that the dismissal project has been completed, we will be working on what we have identified and should have some information for public consumption soon. In this respect, thank you, Mr Foiritain, for your assistance. Sakaane Eionell Isha-Sainika, ILF; President, IPI
- IPI & ILF Portal | Solitary Pilot - |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
811
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:55:00 -
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I guess Serpentis Damage Control wouldn't be better than Tech II after all. |

Hulemand
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2012.11.11 23:26:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:I guess Serpentis Damage Control wouldn't be better than Tech II after all.
Why would you even think we would need to do any kind of damage control? During the weeks up to the beginning of this war, we monitored IPI pilots activity in space, and numbers only confirm that activity ofactive pilots flying under the IPI banner have seen a drastic reduction.
Even the pilots that have stayed behind rarely leaves safety of the stations they live in, which all in all leads to less time spent in space, thus clearly stating that our campaign so far have been successful at reducing the IPI's ability to hinder and interfere with Serpentis Operations in the Placid region. This we have done by actively hunting down IPI pilots and attacking IPI assets, turning the focus of the IPI away from other important elements in the region. Admiral Hulemand Core Operations Overseer
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
811
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Posted - 2012.11.12 00:00:00 -
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I was building off Andreus Ixiris' comment for mere humor, actually. |

Yazus Kor
Kotharat Logistics
5
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Posted - 2012.11.12 01:03:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Our battlecruiser setups allowed us to quickly and repeatedly reinforce their customs offices
You do realize there are more efficient ways of setting up battlecruisers for attacks on static infrastructure that don't imply- well, gross incompetence? |
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1152
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Posted - 2012.11.13 13:08:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:I was building off Andreus Ixiris' comment for mere humor, actually.
You know, it's so much better to be laughed with than to be laughed at. Especially when you're laughing with someone at someone else. Mane 614
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.11.13 16:48:00 -
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Sakaane Eionell wrote:Anyone who only considers the mathematics of our member count will probably come to this conclusion, and I suppose if this shallow assessment satisfies such people, there is little to be done about it. On the other hand, it occurs to me that if Coreli had initially done better research into IPI then they might not need those DC II units that Mr Ixiris is so kindly offering.
I'll take this opportunity, then, to freely provide some illumination for those who care to know what the math actually means.
[...]
Where does this leave us? Ah yes. The movement of a handful of non-combat pilots from IPI. But as I already stated: The other pilots who have recently left us were advised by us to do so. These individuals are miners and industrialists who have no interest in war. They work with us because their interests align with IPI's economic goals for the Intaki sovereignty. They did not want to go, but they do have quotas to fill, contract deadlines to meet, and so on. We wish them well and look forward to having them rejoin us in the future. As I've pointed out several times before, we never mentioned or cared about the number of corporations you had in the past or about inactive pilots that have been removed from your roster.
Our mathematics are simple; in the two weeks prior to our war we compiled a complete list of all your pilots, monitored their activities and based on this list 15 active pilots have left your ranks since the start of the war: The Savagewolf, Jake Lanks, OUTINHERE, Draco Yvormes, Zukof Neso, Sagara Rumbler, Ranubis Deadface, Shade Yvormes, SyrinxMegnon, Dawn Anonaszy, Herodessius, Warren804, Mack Bolan Steele, Subarusan, Jodari Buelle.
As you pointed out, these are mostly industrialists who have no interest in picking arms to defend your cause but as far as we are concered their occupation is irrelevant, they supported your organization and thus they were hunted down.
Sakaane Eionell wrote:You chose to declare war on a corporation which was not a member of the Intaki Prosperity Initiative. True, that corporation had initially taken in a number of our non-combat pilots. But since that corporation was not a member of IPI, IPI leadership had no authority nor influence over any action its CEO undertook. Considering these pilots united in a corporation called GÇ£DE ROKHA INDUSTRIESGÇ¥ founded by a pilot named GÇ£Nicanor de RokhaGÇ¥ when your organization contains a corporation called GÇ£DA ROKHA WELFARE COMMITEEGÇ¥ whose CEO is called GÇ£da RokhaGÇ¥ and most of the members are ex-Rokha Welfare Commitee pilots id argue that there's clear ties between your organizations that thus the actions of one your CEO's reflects upon the IPI.
Sakaane Eionell wrote:Since IPI is not aligned with any empire, it doesn't matter to us who anyone's navy/militia deems an enemy. IPI maintains relationships with many groups across New Eden, and many of those groups hate each other. We judge them on their own merits and how they interact with us. Just to clarify; you support the Intaki people in and around the Intaki system and wish to improve the quality of life in the GÇ£Intaki SovereigntyGÇ¥ but at the same time see no problem working with organizations who will -at the first chance they get- deploy military ground forces to Intaki V to conquer it?
I must say the IPI is suprisingly openminded about collateral damage.
Yazus Kor wrote:You do realize there are more efficient ways of setting up battlecruisers for attacks on static infrastructure that don't imply- well, gross incompetence? You mean like going for maximum damage setups that make the ship useless in actual ship combat but are still capable of destroying customs offices even with enemies on the field trying to stop you? If only we had thoug... oh right.
Katrina Oniseki wrote:I was building off Andreus Ixiris' comment for mere humor, actually. Isn't humor against State Law? |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
818
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Posted - 2012.11.13 20:50:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:I was building off Andreus Ixiris' comment for mere humor, actually. Isn't humor against State Law?
Well, you're an outlaw... so humor about you is probably an exception! Shoot a pirate, laugh at a pirate. Same difference. |

Hulemand
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2012.12.02 23:23:00 -
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For the last two months Coreli's mission has been hunting Intaki Prosperity Initiative pilots and its allies all over the cluster.
This mission consisted of three parts; foremost it served to teach the pilots of the IPI that interfering with Serpentis interests in Placid has its price.
Secondly it served as intelligence oriented opportunity allowing us to assess the IPIGÇÖs overall strength and possible threat level towards Serpentis Operations Command's plans for Placid.
Third, our activities in and around Placid acted as a diversion meant to draw the attention away from Serpentis' Kobro Division - lead by Operational Commander Launette Vylier - during the preparation phase of their Placid campaign.
Following Kobro Division's successful assault on the Evaulon system we have reviewed and concluded that the IPI's capabilities have been severely diminished through the loss of pilots, assets and infrastructure.
For this reason we will be dropping our official declaration of war against the IPI and refocusing our efforts on supporting Kobro Division's combat operations throughout the Placid region and strengthening the reconstruction of our neural booster research and development network.
Admiral Hulemand Core Operations Overseer
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Yazus Kor
Kotharat Logistics
10
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Posted - 2012.12.03 10:32:00 -
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Hulemand wrote: For this reason we will be dropping our official declaration of war against the IPI and refocusing our efforts on supporting Kobro Division's combat operations throughout the Placid region and strengthening the reconstruction of our neural booster research and development network.
Translation: "We figured out we've been constantly shooting ourselves in the foot for the duration of the IPI conflict, and we're now going to back off and lick our wounds elsewhere."
This is almost on par with those trashy Federation soaps that aired a few years ago. |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.12.03 12:03:00 -
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Out of curiosity; How exactly have we been shooting ourselves in the foot? |

Yazus Kor
Kotharat Logistics
11
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Posted - 2012.12.03 12:11:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Out of curiosity; How exactly have we been shooting ourselves in the foot?
I'm sorry, Warp Core stabbed Battlecruisers? Picking on the little guy? (Not to mention the darling of the IGS) and generally failing to inflict any significant damage at all.
Add to that the rigorous chest-beating and general incompetence when local pirate corporations did your work for you, and your reputation becomes mud very rapidly.
All you've really achieved is pushing groups who wouldn't usually go after Serpentis forces into action against them. Good job. |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.12.03 13:18:00 -
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Haha right.
Yazus Kor wrote:I'm sorry, Warp Core stabbed Battlecruisers? One of these days someone should explain why the concept of using war core stabilizers seems to cause violent spasms in the space-honor of various IGS visitors. 
Yazus Kor wrote:All you've really achieved is pushing groups who wouldn't usually go after Serpentis forces into action against them. Good job. Ah yes the populace has risen up agai... wait no they didnt, Kobro Division just nuked an entire city from orbit and stole billions in assets from Combined Harvest and a grand total of 4 people cared; one of which was a reporter and one was a Sansha mutant. |

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
708
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Posted - 2012.12.03 13:25:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Haha right. One of these days someone should explain why the concept of using war core stabilizers seems to cause violent spasms in the space-honor of various IGS visitors. 
It's got less to do with honor and more to do with using those warp core stabbed tier 3 battlecruisers is a great way to never lose a fight (but never win one either)
Joshua Foiritain wrote: Ah yes the populace has risen up agai... wait no they didnt, Kobro Division just nuked an entire city from orbit and stole billions in assets from Combined Harvest and a grand total of 4 people cared; one of which was a reporter and one was a Sansha mutant.
A lot more than that cared. |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
136
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Posted - 2012.12.03 13:36:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Joshua Foiritain wrote:Haha right. One of these days someone should explain why the concept of using war core stabilizers seems to cause violent spasms in the space-honor of various IGS visitors.  It's got less to do with honor and more to do with using those warp core stabbed tier 3 battlecruisers is a great way to never lose a fight (but never win one either) Right except we never used warp core stabbed battlecruisers to fight (since it takes +2 minutes to lock another ship), we used them to destroy customs offices, the entire point of the stabs was being able to run max dps setups without getting murdered by a tech 1 frigate.
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Joshua Foiritain wrote: Ah yes the populace has risen up agai... wait no they didnt, Kobro Division just nuked an entire city from orbit and stole billions in assets from Combined Harvest and a grand total of 4 people cared; one of which was a reporter and one was a Sansha mutant.
A lot more than that cared. Not enough to do something about it apparently, a grand total of two pilots actually tried to stop the assault on Evaulon. |
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