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Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:08:00 -
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Within a week of my Eve career starting I'd been approached and had joined a very friendly corp based in null sec. I spent my first few weeks in high sec learning the basics then was escorted to null sec where I've lived quite contentedly for the past 8 months. Besides logging an alt in Jita to check prices every now and again I have not left null for many months. If I want something hauled to high sec I contract it to our jump freighter guys, if I want something unavaiable on the market in null I sent our jump freighter guys a shopping list and a ten percent kicker and all is well. That is until about two days ago.
A good friend of mine from the real world finally realised that Diablo 3 is basically digital cancer; I saw an opportunity and he has now subscribed to internet spaceships. Being a good friend I have now relocated to a system on the fringes of high sec to teach him the ropes. This, I thought, would be a lovely opportunity to live out a week or two as a high sec carebear, mining the less valuable ores that our corp seems utterly incapable of locating for our capital production projects (as much as our CEO insists we can't, we're still trying to build stuff purely from megacyte).
So, the first hour of mining isn't so bad. Yes, the people in local seem to have an IQ deficit of probably 20 points on their counterparts in null sec, but it's not that bad. Hour two and I'm beginning to loose a little hope. Having read the forums I was missled into thinking that mining highsec was basically an AFK job, I put on Star Trek IV expecting to relax with Kirk and the gang on a whale finding adventure, but it was not to be. In Null sec the roids are big, really big. I've seen spodumain roids that would be palacial even for the space slug off star wars. But not in high sec, after only 2-3 cycles of strip mining its time to lock down another roid.
Im not writing this to promote the pilgrimage to nullsec (though to be honest I feel now that highsec is to null sec as ************ is to sex*), I'm not writing this post to shed tears or encourage anger, I'm just writing this post because it breaks the tedium of spending another hour in this bastion of boredom.
*Feynman deserves a reference for doing most of the leg work on that sentence. EDIT - A terrible tradgedy that one of Feynman's best quotes is non postable on a science fiction based forum :S |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1195
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:15:00 -
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So... highsec mining isn't AFKable enough? That's all I get from this. |
Alec Enderas
Sovereign Front
10
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:15:00 -
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So basically you tell us the roids in hisec are smaller, right ? Why the wall of text ? For afk mining in hisec head to the next icebelt -------> |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1030
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:16:00 -
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If the first thing you do with a friend who joins EVE is take him mining, then you're a terrible friend. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
920
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:23:00 -
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Hongus Gwag wrote:Within a week of my Eve career starting I'd been approached and had joined a very friendly corp based in null sec. I spent my first few weeks in high sec learning the basics then was escorted to null sec where I've lived quite contentedly for the past 8 months. Besides logging an alt in Jita to check prices every now and again I have not left null for many months. If I want something hauled to high sec I contract it to our jump freighter guys, if I want something unavaiable on the market in null I sent our jump freighter guys a shopping list and a ten percent kicker and all is well. That is until about two days ago.
A good friend of mine from the real world finally realised that Diablo 3 is basically digital cancer; I saw an opportunity and he has now subscribed to internet spaceships. Being a good friend I have now relocated to a system on the fringes of high sec to teach him the ropes. This, I thought, would be a lovely opportunity to live out a week or two as a high sec carebear, mining the less valuable ores that our corp seems utterly incapable of locating for our capital production projects (as much as our CEO insists we can't, we're still trying to build stuff purely from megacyte).
So, the first hour of mining isn't so bad. Yes, the people in local seem to have an IQ deficit of probably 20 points on their counterparts in null sec, but it's not that bad. Hour two and I'm beginning to loose a little hope. Having read the forums I was missled into thinking that mining highsec was basically an AFK job, I put on Star Trek IV expecting to relax with Kirk and the gang on a whale finding adventure, but it was not to be. In Null sec the roids are big, really big. I've seen spodumain roids that would be palacial even for the space slug off star wars. But not in high sec, after only 2-3 cycles of strip mining its time to lock down another roid.
Im not writing this to promote the pilgrimage to nullsec (though to be honest I feel now that highsec is to null sec as ************ is to sex*), I'm not writing this post to shed tears or encourage anger, I'm just writing this post because it breaks the tedium of spending another hour in this bastion of boredom.
*Feynman deserves a reference for doing most of the leg work on that sentence. EDIT - A terrible tradgedy that one of Feynman's best quotes is non postable on a science fiction based forum :S
Then don't mine in high sec.
And stop complaining. |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2913
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:24:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:So... highsec mining isn't AFKable enough? That's all I get from this. OP needs to change professions I think.
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Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:27:00 -
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No, if from my post you assume I'm moaning about high-sec not being afkable enough then you've either got the wrong end of the stick or I've not made myself very clear. Highsec mining, and infact any EVE activity shouldn't be afkable in my opinion. What I was getting at was a new found respect for people capable of doing this activity day in day out for many months/years.
And no, I have no intention of introducing my friend to EVE through the medium of high sec mining, it's just what I've been doing whilst he's been offline. |
Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:29:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:So... highsec mining isn't AFKable enough? That's all I get from this. OP needs to change professions I think.
Mining is not my profession, nor could it ever be.
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Jim Era
4285
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:31:00 -
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wat |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1195
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:33:00 -
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We all know the mechanics suck. You're preaching to the choir. We can only hope the ring mining will actually be slightly entertaining and eventually replace current mining if it is better. |
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
619
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:33:00 -
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Is a "labotomy" being violently removed from one's lab? Post with your monkey.
CCP Gargant: Thread locked due to lack of pants. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1032
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:42:00 -
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Hongus Gwag wrote:No, if from my post you assume I'm moaning about high-sec not being afkable enough then you've either got the wrong end of the stick or I've not made myself very clear. Highsec mining, and infact any EVE activity shouldn't be afkable in my opinion. What I was getting at was a new found respect for people capable of doing this activity day in day out for many months/years.
And no, I have no intention of introducing my friend to EVE through the medium of high sec mining, it's just what I've been doing whilst he's been offline. Those "people" are either bots, or have some severe issues with their mental health. That's not to say I am disrespectful toward those individuals. They simply have issues like an extreme focus on routines. No one who is normal mines like that for years without automating at least part of the process.
It's good that you're not pulling your friend into that, then. If you'd like a suggestion, either take him along to FW for some frigate combat (it's terrible, but still has a sliver of merit, and is likely to improve soon), or wardec some local bear corporation and have some fun together. Doing fun stuff like that will result in a long-term stay in EVE. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2738
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:42:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:Is a "labotomy" being violently removed from one's lab?
I think it's removal, cutting or separation of a lab from something. |
Idris Helion
University of Caille Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:49:00 -
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So...hisec roids are too small? You're not able to AFK in the manner you'd like to? Is that my take-away here?
If you want a truly AFK experience, just go mine ice. Target an ice roid, throw out some drones, turn on your lasers, and check back every half-hour or so. Mining in high isn't the snooze-fest it is out in null, but it's also a lot more lucrative. (Scord right now is second only to Ark in terms of ISK/hr, believe it or not.)
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Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:50:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Grumpymunky wrote:Is a "labotomy" being violently removed from one's lab? I think it's removal, cutting or separation of a lab from something.
Ok, first - nice to see some decent input from you guys, I was worried for a moment there I was going to get buried under a wave of vitreol.
Second, a labotomy is a punishment inflicted on criminals going back 50 years or so where part of the persons brain was removed, leaving them capable of living, but with no higher level thought. Only basic tasks could be managed by someone who had been labotomised, leaving them in no condition to cause future harm to a society.
third, I haven't tried faction warfare, seeing as this is the longest I've spent in high sec for many months. I'm more inclined to go with the"annoy the bear" option. |
Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:52:00 -
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Idris Helion wrote:So...hisec roids are too small? You're not able to AFK in the manner you'd like to? Is that my take-away here?
Your take-away would of improved significantly had you read my second and third posts ammending my initial discourse. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1443
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:00:00 -
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tl;dr
Make the asteroids in high sec bigger so I don't have to pay so much attention, I'm trying to watch a movie here! primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:03:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:tl;dr
Make the asteroids in high sec bigger so I don't have to pay so much attention, I'm trying to watch a movie here!
tl;dr |
Serena Serene
Heretic University Heretic Nation
3477
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:06:00 -
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Hongus Gwag wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Grumpymunky wrote:Is a "labotomy" being violently removed from one's lab? I think it's removal, cutting or separation of a lab from something. [stuff] Second, a labotomy is a punishment inflicted on criminals going back 50 years or so where part of the persons brain was removed, leaving them capable of living, but with no higher level thought. Only basic tasks could be managed by someone who had been labotomised, leaving them in no condition to cause future harm to a society. [other stuff]
I think they are making fun of you |
Nex apparatu5
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
349
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:06:00 -
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Spoiler: when people say they afk mine in hisec, that means they are doing something else while a bot runs the miner for them. |
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Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:10:00 -
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arrgh, yes, spelling mistake.
I could go back and edit them all, but that wouldn't be playing fair. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
15
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:16:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Spoiler: when people say they afk mine in hisec, that means they are doing something else while a bot runs the miner for them. Wait mining bots are allowed in hisec?
Hmm nah I make more churning out t2 stuff |
coolzero
The Replicators Li3 Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:17:00 -
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mine ice...
but i agrea..null sec is better :D |
Josef Djugashvilis
653
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:23:00 -
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Hongus Gwag wrote:Within a week of my Eve career starting I'd been approached and had joined a very friendly corp based in null sec. I spent my first few weeks in high sec learning the basics then was escorted to null sec where I've lived quite contentedly for the past 8 months. Besides logging an alt in Jita to check prices every now and again I have not left null for many months. If I want something hauled to high sec I contract it to our jump freighter guys, if I want something unavaiable on the market in null I sent our jump freighter guys a shopping list and a ten percent kicker and all is well. That is until about two days ago.
A good friend of mine from the real world finally realised that Diablo 3 is basically digital cancer; I saw an opportunity and he has now subscribed to internet spaceships. Being a good friend I have now relocated to a system on the fringes of high sec to teach him the ropes. This, I thought, would be a lovely opportunity to live out a week or two as a high sec carebear, mining the less valuable ores that our corp seems utterly incapable of locating for our capital production projects (as much as our CEO insists we can't, we're still trying to build stuff purely from megacyte).
So, the first hour of mining isn't so bad. Yes, the people in local seem to have an IQ deficit of probably 20 points on their counterparts in null sec, but it's not that bad. Hour two and I'm beginning to loose a little hope. Having read the forums I was missled into thinking that mining highsec was basically an AFK job, I put on Star Trek IV expecting to relax with Kirk and the gang on a whale finding adventure, but it was not to be. In Null sec the roids are big, really big. I've seen spodumain roids that would be palacial even for the space slug off star wars. But not in high sec, after only 2-3 cycles of strip mining its time to lock down another roid.
Im not writing this to promote the pilgrimage to nullsec (though to be honest I feel now that highsec is to null sec as ************ is to sex*), I'm not writing this post to shed tears or encourage anger, I'm just writing this post because it breaks the tedium of spending another hour in this bastion of boredom.
*Feynman deserves a reference for doing most of the leg work on that sentence. EDIT - A terrible tradgedy that one of Feynman's best quotes is non postable on a science fiction based forum :S
CCP really should enforce the rule that one needs to be at least 13 years old to play Eve.
Too old, tired and ugly to care. |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
56
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:28:00 -
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This is that ISK per effort thing I keep mentioning. Or in your case, yield per effort.
High-sec roids suck. Protecting miners in high-sec isn't feasibly sustainable. Fly safe on your way back to null. |
Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:34:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Hongus Gwag wrote:Within a week of my Eve career starting I'd been approached and had joined a very friendly corp based in null sec. I spent my first few weeks in high sec learning the basics then was escorted to null sec where I've lived quite contentedly for the past 8 months. Besides logging an alt in Jita to check prices every now and again I have not left null for many months. If I want something hauled to high sec I contract it to our jump freighter guys, if I want something unavaiable on the market in null I sent our jump freighter guys a shopping list and a ten percent kicker and all is well. That is until about two days ago.
A good friend of mine from the real world finally realised that Diablo 3 is basically digital cancer; I saw an opportunity and he has now subscribed to internet spaceships. Being a good friend I have now relocated to a system on the fringes of high sec to teach him the ropes. This, I thought, would be a lovely opportunity to live out a week or two as a high sec carebear, mining the less valuable ores that our corp seems utterly incapable of locating for our capital production projects (as much as our CEO insists we can't, we're still trying to build stuff purely from megacyte).
So, the first hour of mining isn't so bad. Yes, the people in local seem to have an IQ deficit of probably 20 points on their counterparts in null sec, but it's not that bad. Hour two and I'm beginning to loose a little hope. Having read the forums I was missled into thinking that mining highsec was basically an AFK job, I put on Star Trek IV expecting to relax with Kirk and the gang on a whale finding adventure, but it was not to be. In Null sec the roids are big, really big. I've seen spodumain roids that would be palacial even for the space slug off star wars. But not in high sec, after only 2-3 cycles of strip mining its time to lock down another roid.
Im not writing this to promote the pilgrimage to nullsec (though to be honest I feel now that highsec is to null sec as ************ is to sex*), I'm not writing this post to shed tears or encourage anger, I'm just writing this post because it breaks the tedium of spending another hour in this bastion of boredom.
*Feynman deserves a reference for doing most of the leg work on that sentence. EDIT - A terrible tradgedy that one of Feynman's best quotes is non postable on a science fiction based forum :S CCP really should enforce the rule that one needs to be at least 13 years old to play Eve.
Having read your constructive feedback, I feel humbled to of had you post in my topic. I mean, really, if I were as cool as you I would be happy in life.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
252
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:39:00 -
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Lobotomy - removal of lobes. I don't even want to think of what labotomy might be but requiring it of hi sec miners certainly isn't going to encourage girls into the game. |
Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:43:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Lobotomy - removal of lobes. I don't even want to think of what labotomy might be but requiring it of hi sec miners certainly isn't going to encourage girls into the game.
whilst the gentleman among us would see this as only a minor inconvenience? |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
122
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:49:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:If the first thing you do with a friend who joins EVE is take him mining, then you're a terrible friend.
I got my friend to play EVE and do her own thing in Empire for a about 3/4 weeks.
Then I dragged her to null, took her out in a fleet and got us all killed by a 40 man fleet.
I am the best friend ever. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
920
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:53:00 -
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Hongus Gwag wrote: What I was getting at was a new found respect for people capable of doing this activity day in day out for many months/years.
I don't think so as per this sentence on OP: "Yes, the people in local seem to have an IQ deficit of probably 20 points on their counterparts in null sec, " |
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