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sableye	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:12:00 - [31] Originally by: iconoclast Look, this is serious stuff here. We already have green with the Ishkur/Ishtar and red with the Ares/Enyo. Though to be honest the Enyo red is a bit to dark for me. It's time for change! Blue! (allthough a shiny racing yellow would be ok too...) I guess I'm colour blind the ares has always seemed orange to me.
H0ot	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:14:00 - [32] Ares is more a strawberry-ish flavor. But since bombers = missiles and Roden Shipyards are the only Gallente who produce missile boats.. It'll be red. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Ticondrius	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:21:00 - [33] I wouldn't mind a nice Royal Blue and silverish/whitish Tristan. :) Yummy! "If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault." (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
BigJim Beef	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:27:00 - [34] Originally by: Ticondrius I wouldn't mind a nice Royal Blue and silverish/whitish Tristan. :) Yummy! Ooh, i hope the Matari bomber is by Core Complexion, bl00 breacher 4tw! \o/
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:46:00 - [35] well since the only missile based company with R&D in gallente is Roden and Roden ships tend to be red... then the gallente stealth bomber shall be a red tristan.... ........sexay imho ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
meowcat	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:53:00 - [36] Originally by: Neurotic Cat Are you listening to me Tom B?? Bright Blue Tristan 4tW!!!! nonsense. PURPLE TRISTAN 4TW ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
afk demonkiller	Posted - 2005.03.16 22:54:00 - [37] Personaly i'd like to see some kind of tactic and player skill involved in bombing the target this is a rough idea. Bomber can attack in a long range attack he can fire a cloaked target e.g a special missile/probe that is the target for any weaponry he may deploy he does not have to target anything it will just run straight for say 100k before it self destructs during this period he can choose to uncloak the beacon uncloak his ship and insta lock the beacon . The pilot will have to judge the distace and timing when to uncloak and target the beacon. Then fire the main weapon once the moving beacon is targeted that locks the x y z access for the main weapon to head towards and when it gets to the xyz access it explodeds with plenty of splash dmg. This idea also gives the enemy piots a warning when the beacon uncloaks if they are keeping an eye on the scanner that is As i said d the idea is rough but it would take a certain amount of pilot skill to acheive a good hit and would require good team work from the bomber crews to accomplish group bombing raids. God knows if it can be done with what we already have in terms of game mechanics but it was just a thought.
pardux	Posted - 2005.03.16 23:00:00 - [38] Originally by: meowcat Originally by: Neurotic Cat Are you listening to me Tom B?? Bright Blue Tristan 4tW!!!! nonsense. PURPLE TRISTAN 4TW PINK Fluffy carebear (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Weston McArthur	Posted - 2005.03.17 00:13:00 - [39] I expect them to have gaudy tassles.
Neurotic Cat	Posted - 2005.03.17 03:01:00 - [40] Purple could work. Hot pink would only work if we could also get some shiny gold trim. That would rock.
OnDa Rag	Posted - 2005.03.17 03:12:00 - [41] Originally by: pardux Originally by: meowcat Originally by: Neurotic Cat Are you listening to me Tom B?? Bright Blue Tristan 4tW!!!! nonsense. PURPLE TRISTAN 4TW PINK E-NUFF Pink w/ purple poka dots and lavender stripes!!!! But seriously . . . what are the stats on the Gal. Stealth bomber? And what are the special abilities/bonuses?
babylonstew	Posted - 2005.03.17 03:14:00 - [42] i think its something to do with mines om sure i read somewhere the devs have been at ways to bring them back into game, and i suspect stealth bombers may be it. they fly in cloaked dropping a path of short duration mines in amongst the enemy fleet prolly a million miles off with that, but you never know (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Doc Brown	Posted - 2005.03.17 03:53:00 - [43] Originally by: Shidhe The whole point of a stealth bomber is that you dont expect it!!!!! No body expects the Stealth Bomb.....eerrrrrr..... oh drat :( _________________________________________________ There are no bad ideas, only bad implementations.
Question2	Posted - 2005.03.17 03:54:00 - [44] Following the trend that amaarians dominate in PVP,second-best in NPCing/mission running(only because of missles),it can be logically deduced that amaarians will get the best stealth bombers as well.
afk demonkiller	Posted - 2005.03.17 04:28:00 - [45] Quote: Following the trend that amaarians dominate in PVP,second-best in NPCing/mission running(only because of missles),it can be logically deduced that amaarians will get the best stealth bombers as well. Thats so construcive dude
Sorja	Posted - 2005.03.17 04:35:00 - [46] Looking at the screenshot (which doesn't show the most important part: attributes), the Manticore looks like a weak kestrel. So, there must be a catch... With 30 powergrid, it can only fire light missiles. Light missiles don't do any significant damage to large targets (even to small) and can be easily avoided by frigates so far as they have a MWD. So, we have to look at the most important feature of those ships: cloaking. At first glance, a stealth bomber would uncloak, lock, fire, cloak, wait the usual timer, rinse and repeat. If it gets targeted, it has to warp out very fast... which means this ship would be usefull if no interceptor is around and it's recloaking time was very short. But since it's damage output seems lower than that of a Kestrel, what else than interceptors could it harm? So I guess they have a huge damage multiplier, like 100% per level. Level of what, I don't know. Those ships will probably be able to lock while cloaked (built in passive targeter), MWD to their target, fire (and uncloak) and get out. But this is simply not possible, since a stealth bomber could passive lock a frigate, rush to it, fire, kill, get away. Unbalanced. So, I really don't know what this concept is about
IonHammer	Posted - 2005.03.17 05:39:00 - [47] I would not want to use a covert ops cloak on a stealth bomber type ship (thats covert ops jobby), I would expect some type of stealth bonus, this may be an inbuilt dampener effect as the modules do already, that is either all ships or the ship you targeting have a reduce lock range and increased time to lock. Or a bonus where the ship does not appear on your hud unless your close, that way you would see missiles comming at you but unable to see the ship, till you got out with a inty and located the stealth bomber out 50ks or so away (This would make a raven with FOF the most dangerous ship to go up against for the bomber but still i like this idea to linger around a gate at 50-70 ks and hose the deck with put being seen unless someone runs out for a look. Once your found there needs to be a new skill like sensor networking where the pilot that finds the bomber can pass that discovery to other pilots in there gang, but takes time based on the skill they have.
Lagar	Posted - 2005.03.17 06:16:00 - [48] to be honest that elite frig is probebly better than the one that has been seen atm.. they're just trying to scare us.. it has to be better..
Cracken	Posted - 2005.03.17 06:47:00 - [49] black with serpentis green highlights.
Super Cow	Posted - 2005.03.17 06:49:00 - [50] dark blue with bright neon lights that pulsate now that would look damn cool
Agent Kenshin	Posted - 2005.03.17 07:03:00 - [51] Originally by: Neurotic Cat Purple could work. Hot pink would only work if we could also get some shiny gold trim. That would rock. That would be cool NC. But you know if its designed by roden its gonna be red. If its designed by Creodon its gonna be green. You see what im getting at. The ships color skeems follow the developers. At least for the gallente. Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers' ehehehh....
OnDa Rag	Posted - 2005.03.17 09:24:00 - [52] Originally by: Super Cow dark blue with bright neon lights that pulsate now that would look damn cool The Ishkur looks like a giant green grasshopper head w/ Psychedelic Mint Green Candy Cane Fangs sticking out of the front (Take a good look . . . the dam things blink) . . . I see no reason why other ships shouldn't also be cursed with the 'just off of the merry-go-round of doom' look.
Myko	Posted - 2005.03.17 09:32:00 - [53] i just hope that they do decide to use the tristan model for the gallente stealth bomber...i was so disapointed when the incursus was used for the AF. The tristan looks cool in any colour, i'd like to see gunmetal with cool blue glow.
meowcat	Posted - 2005.03.17 13:25:00 - [54] Originally by: Super Cow dark blue with bright neon lights that pulsate now that would look damn cool pulsating neon lights aren't exactly the pinnacle of stealthiness ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.03.17 13:46:00 - [55] Originally by: meowcat Originally by: Super Cow dark blue with bright neon lights that pulsate now that would look damn cool pulsating neon lights aren't exactly the pinnacle of stealthiness It screams pimp mobile... I want a black ship with white lights that pulse. I dont want no stinking brackets!!! -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.17 13:51:00 - [56] I wanted one of the tech 2 incursus' to be black and chrome.
0seeker0	Posted - 2005.03.17 14:17:00 - [57] Originally by: afk demonkiller Personaly i'd like to see some kind of tactic and player skill involved in bombing the target this is a rough idea. Bomber can attack in a long range attack he can fire a cloaked target e.g a special missile/probe that is the target for any weaponry he may deploy he does not have to target anything it will just run straight for say 100k before it self destructs during this period he can choose to uncloak the beacon uncloak his ship and insta lock the beacon . The pilot will have to judge the distace and timing when to uncloak and target the beacon. Then fire the main weapon once the moving beacon is targeted that locks the x y z access for the main weapon to head towards and when it gets to the xyz access it explodeds with plenty of splash dmg. This idea also gives the enemy piots a warning when the beacon uncloaks if they are keeping an eye on the scanner that is As i said d the idea is rough but it would take a certain amount of pilot skill to acheive a good hit and would require good team work from the bomber crews to accomplish group bombing raids. God knows if it can be done with what we already have in terms of game mechanics but it was just a thought. This is a very interesting idea! Eve interface isnt setup for the FPS "manually aim" style, and so under most circumstances it would suck. But as your ship is cloaked in this instance, you can plan out your attack and use the interface to the best of its abilities without sweating. I also think this new "platform" could be something of a testbed for CCP, leading to more new ideas. San. Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
Thyro	Posted - 2005.03.17 14:29:00 - [58] Originally by: Arud Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 17:33:22 Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 17:32:35 Uhh..yeah. Knock yourself out TomB. Manticore Screenie and Stats..DEFINATELY NOT FINAL! Please note this screenshot was taken yesterday. EDIT: TomB is stalking me! but omg, look at the targeting range! More important... Just check the "Gravimetric sensor strenght"! Quite high compared with Battleships.
Boffin	Posted - 2005.03.17 14:50:00 - [59] I think stealth bombers will be in effect like the old kestrels, ie frigates with the ability to launch cruise or Torps. This ability was removed because it was too easy to grief with an alt and then rinse & repeat. Maybe CCP are hoping the high level of skills/training time required will stop the same from happening. Not sure on the stealth part, but would be interesting if this meant that a pilot in a stealth bomber didn't show in local. Advanced fleets of bombers could enter a sytsem, soften up the targets ready for the rest of the fleet to jump in.
KrogothZero	Posted - 2005.03.17 14:50:00 - [60] Originally by: Thyro Originally by: Arud Originally by: Ticondrius Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 17:33:22 Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 17:32:35 Uhh..yeah. Knock yourself out TomB. Manticore Screenie and Stats..DEFINATELY NOT FINAL! Please note this screenshot was taken yesterday. EDIT: TomB is stalking me! but omg, look at the targeting range! More important... Just check the "Gravimetric sensor strenght"! Quite high compared with Battleships. Thats the ECM changes a scorp has about 30 strength now iirc.

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