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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:00:00 -
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I'll just leave this thread here as it will be subject to some discussion when SiSi content hits the "fan"...
...so if you would like to be active citizen and leave your opinion before that major ****-storm... feel free to :)
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:01:00 -
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leaving this slot for my own comments - coming soonTM
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non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
27
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:05:00 -
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It seems alright...
If I was going to say anything bad, it'd be that it seems to be just a little bit squashed width wise.
Actually the menu stuff seems okay. The squashed bit I was looking at was the autopilot route text.
The System and Region names are a bit tight. Other than that it's okay.
I'll get used to it. It'll be normal to me in no time. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
111
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:06:00 -
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It can't be any worse then the old one. I don't know yet Sisi is updating atm. |
Myxx
Atropos Group
Celestial Imperative
70
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:06:00 -
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if i can tell the difference between 0O, 6G&B8, 5S, Il and some other stuff, ill be happy. |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
27
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:15:00 -
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Yeah, capital letters are nice and clear. |
mkint
91
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:38:00 -
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The issue isn't "what bugs are there on sisi" because there will be some... it's whole point of the test server. The issue is "how many of the sisi bugs won't be resolved, but still pushed live" which tends to be about 80% of them. Prove me wrong CCP! |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
27
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:48:00 -
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mkint wrote:The issue isn't "what bugs are there on sisi" because there will be some... it's whole point of the test server. The issue is "how many of the sisi bugs won't be resolved, but still pushed live" which tends to be about 80% of them. Prove me wrong CCP!
You're such a cheerful bugger.
When I hear the term "bitter vet", I think of you. |
Psychophantic
43
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:52:00 -
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I hope it's optional.
I mean it's not like they would have something that everybody's used to then introduce a replacement and not let you choose which one you prefer.
That would never happen. Right? |
Jonah Gravenstein
16
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:55:00 -
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mkint wrote:The issue isn't "what bugs are there on sisi" because there will be some... it's whole point of the test server. The issue is "how many of the sisi bugs won't be resolved, but still pushed live" which tends to be about 80% of them. Prove me wrong CCP!
"the logs show nothing" & "working as intended" spring to mind :P
well that's the usual excuse anyway.
the font gets a +1 from me, it's readable that's a definite improvement
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Sneeze100
Imperium Elite
AEQUITAS.
2
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:59:00 -
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Who really cares about the font get a life |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
50
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:07:00 -
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Sneeze100 wrote:Who really cares about the font get a life
Who really cares about things that people care get a life
Anyway..... font is OK. Now, it is DIFFERENT. And as with most stuff that is DUFFERENT.. you can be sure that someone somewhere sometime is going to have a beef with it.
Hmm.. beef...
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
26
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:11:00 -
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Improving the ease of use in the game is, in my view, a super important step that, dare I hope, will pave to way to a UI overhaul and BIGGER fonts. After all, in a game that interacts exclusively with the users through text... good readability seems of understated importance.
What I have seen so far is surprisingly good! Nice work so far.
oh, and also :
Sneeze100 wrote:Who really cares about the font get a life
...Says the dude who takes time to reply to this threat. My guess is that going to play with Fido would be a better use of the poster's time and everyone's. 
"It is when I think about meaning that I lose what I meant to say."
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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
191
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:15:00 -
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There's a special test server feedback thread on the font right here in case you are interested :)
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
112
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:18:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:There's a special test server feedback thread on the font right here in case you are interested :)
Ill pass. Eve-O General is where all the action is. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
51
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:20:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:There's a special test server feedback thread on the font right here in case you are interested :) Ill pass. Eve-O General is where all the action is.
Hear hear, brother!
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Sadayiel
Inner Conflict
4
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:30:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:I'll just leave this thread here as it will be subject to some discussion when SiSi content hits the "fan"...
...so if you would like to be active citizen and leave your opinion before that major ****-storm... feel free to :)
I Like my font it's old comfortable and my fellow citizens rush to it after some odd football team wins something relatively important, no complaints here.
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BLACK-STAR
104
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:34:00 -
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is it really complicated for CCP to make a drop down box. "Classic font" and the new "modern font"?
I rather stick to the old one than this new one.
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:36:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:There's a special test server feedback thread on the font right here in case you are interested :) Ill pass. Eve-O General is where all the action is.
Ah, the action may be here, but the test server feedback thread is watched more carefully for issues that pop up on Singularity. 
( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
113
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:39:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:There's a special test server feedback thread on the font right here in case you are interested :) Ill pass. Eve-O General is where all the action is. Ah, the action may be here, but the test server feedback thread is watched more carefully for issues that pop up on Singularity.
Like it even matters. Most issues and bugs will still make it to release. |
KaarBaak
48
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:47:00 -
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I like it. +1 to CCP.
Though I'm sure some people would complain if hung with a new rope.
KB
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
27
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:52:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:is it really complicated for CCP to make a drop down box. "Classic font" and the new "modern font"?
I rather stick to the old one than this new one.
No, they can't. Having UI designers design around 2 separate fonts is unnecessary and would slow development. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
179
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:53:00 -
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Yep... I posted small little picture to 2nd post of this thread and feel pretty confident to say that:
a) we will get the new font "as is" with minor tweaks and the feedback will be ugly
b) something else happens and feedback will be ugly
c) there will be blood
However I try to remember that during past couple weeks CCP emplyees have been really nice and kinds so maybe there will be bonus options
x) It is just me who thinks current new font has issues and all people will be happy and cheer :)
y) New font is getting some further improvements and will be much better than the old one.
z) New font is delayed because of some minor technical difficulties but will be released soonTM.
Time will tell... I'll be waiting with great passion :)
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Psychophantic
43
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:54:00 -
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mechtech wrote:BLACK-STAR wrote:is it really complicated for CCP to make a drop down box. "Classic font" and the new "modern font"?
I rather stick to the old one than this new one. No, they can't. Having UI designers design around 2 separate fonts is unnecessary and would slow development.
So they've resized and restructured the overview, fleet, market, LP tabs etc to incorporate the new font?
From the options menu it doesn't look like it as the new font isn't even centered in the boxes like the old. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
44
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:10:00 -
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I like it.
Larger, clearer. It takes some getting used to, but it definitely feels EVE-like.
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Mehashi 'Kho
Fangs Of The Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:27:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:1000 words in photo speak more than 10 words in a forum. Remember to read the red box in left... I'm not using bazooka quite yet and had something nice to say also .)
Nice work on compiling the comparisons there. As someone still confined to 4:3 screens and not widescreen I am a bit worried about the extra size I may have to make windows. I already have only a tiny slot to look through in the centre of my screen with the older, more space-friendly font!
The Q does look exactly the same as the O (literally cant see a pixel different on them with the picture full size), and other issues you pointed out though so the underlying problem of it being hard to accurately read sometimes does not seem to have been solved. The font itself looks alright but it seems like the spacing is off and the size 2-4 pixels too big.
On the plus side 0 and O are easier to differentiate so it's not all bad :p |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
281
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:27:00 -
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It does the job, really - had no problems reading the old one at 1920*1200 but it's a tad larger and might help ppl with bad eyesight...
morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
114
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:29:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:It does the job, really - had no problems reading the old one at 1920*1200 but it's a tad larger and might help ppl with bad eyesight...
Your looking pretty today LCO. Just thought you should know that. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
281
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:33:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:It does the job, really - had no problems reading the old one at 1920*1200 but it's a tad larger and might help ppl with bad eyesight... Your looking pretty today LCO. Just thought you should know that.
I always look pretty, but thanks anyway...
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Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
12
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:43:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:mechtech wrote:BLACK-STAR wrote:is it really complicated for CCP to make a drop down box. "Classic font" and the new "modern font"?
I rather stick to the old one than this new one. No, they can't. Having UI designers design around 2 separate fonts is unnecessary and would slow development. So they've resized and restructured the overview, fleet, market, LP tabs etc to incorporate the new font? From the options menu it doesn't look like it as the new font isn't even centered in the boxes like the old. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the major point of contention with the old font the fact that you couldn't resize it for people running large LCD at very high resolutions?
Ideally, the end-user should be able to select the font size. Not many games provide this ability, however. Even if we do not receive the option to change font size in the UI itself, the new font is a huge improvement over the old for most purposes, if only because it is now possible to distinguish the the characters 0O8B6&. I play EVE on a fairly low resolution screen, and still have trouble distinguishing those characters in the existing font. The current font only really works well in item description boxes. So even if the font is released as is, it will still be a good thing.
From what I recall, CCP has had issues in the past where introducing scaling font size would break overview tabs and such. I assume that the UI will be adjusted to accommodate the new font.
Keep in mind that the new font is a work in progress. It has been released to the test server precisely so that players can provide feedback.
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