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Musashi Date
25TH miss
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Posted - 2012.10.10 09:42:00 -
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How does everyone sell their mission loots? Do you just dump everything in the market? Dabble in a bit of refining or trading? How much do you make with your method of selling?
I sort my items using EveRefinery, selling the refined minerals when it peaks. Then I handpick some of the items which can be placed on sell orders, which are usually the 1M+ worth ones. I save the tags.. I know they're worth alot for some LP items and for people that watch their standings, but I don't know how to sell them 'properly'. |

ugh zug
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:01:00 -
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i use to do that now i just sort by valuable items in the UI and refine the rest.
items i keep are moved to my market hub station alts inventory for eventual trading. Want me to shut up?-á Send me ISK and i'll stop giving suggestions to CCP that make sense. Remove content from my post, 15 bil. Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil. |

Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
36
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Posted - 2012.10.10 11:01:00 -
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Musashi Date wrote:How does everyone sell their mission loots? Do you just dump everything in the market? Dabble in a bit of refining or trading? How much do you make with your method of selling? I sort my items using EveRefinery, selling the refined minerals when it peaks. Then I handpick some of the items which can be placed on sell orders, which are usually the 1M+ worth ones. I save the tags.. I know they're worth alot for some LP items and for people that watch their standings, but I don't know how to sell them 'properly'. Ah, and since my skills are still low, I've started to stockpile Meta 4 loot.
The amount of time it takes to sell single stacks, most mission loot is better just refined. You go from dozens of stacks of meta-1 or 2 or even 4 items which are worth less than 50k per stack down to only a few stacks of ore.
Thing is, the time it takes to right click a stack or single item, get market details, think about it for a moment, evaluate, decide to sell, either sell to a buy order or create a sell order, this time rapidly adds up. You could spend hours doing that. Or you could refine and sell the ore to buy orders. My feeling has been that the time I've saved allowed me to do more missions, more LP, bounties etc. than what I may have potentially lost in refine inefficiency, losing out to sell orders etc.
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Dirael Papier
Nevermined Inc Storm of Souls
18
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Posted - 2012.10.10 13:50:00 -
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Open up the item window and filter out valuable items (I have it set for items valued at 200k+) and sell those along with the salvage materials. Everything else I refine and put the resulting minerals in a freight can in station to be used later. Used for what I have no idea though, but no reason I can't just hang onto em anyways. |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
115
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Posted - 2012.10.10 14:28:00 -
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At first I thought that I would stock plates, reppers and such for use in pvp fits but two days ago I decided just sell everything and in case of need just transfer ISK from my PVE alt instead of hauling stuff my L4s base to Teon which happens to be nearest hisec system from where I live.
And in general I sold/sell everything I can get > 100k for and grind into minerals everything below this amount and sell them too. I have no brain to handle manufacture or market pvp so they are not useful for me anyway. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Denal Umbra
Coffee Hub
15
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Posted - 2012.10.10 14:53:00 -
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I usually use a custom filter called "Refining"
If value is <400k and quantiy <10k
then recycle what shows up. The 10k rule is there for if i misplace the ammo in the item hangar. Tho been considering upping it to 1m value since single selling is such a pain.
Also, most if not all mission loot you get is bought up by some trader in a hub for resale so the price difference in buy/sell is less than 15% and if you wanted to sell via sell orders, you would have to sit in station for a few hours/days. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
386
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:12:00 -
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i just dump everyhing into a station container and use EveRef to pick out the 4-5 most valuable items to sell. the rest just stacks up in there until mineral prices peak; which is when i nuke everything i haven't sold yet.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:37:00 -
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This is all "general" , so bear this in mind.
1) I keep all but the very BEST launchers, and use them to bump my invention rates for launchers. Same with 10mn AB/MWD and hybrid turrets. 2) sell the high-meta stuff worth 75k+ 3) keep a few select items that I use regularly 4) build up and reprocess all other loot, use minerals for building 5) salvage all L3/L4; use to build T1 rigs for market 6) keep all faction & pirate tags. Period.
That's about it for me, in general. I have an alt with perfect refine/reprocess, so it's all good there. |

Alliria Seedspawn
Pro Synergy
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Posted - 2012.10.10 23:02:00 -
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You utilize the services of Pro Synergy of course, and let us do it for you!! |

Musashi Date
25TH miss
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:28:00 -
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After looking around, I found the site DaOpa's Static Corp with a useful LP Store database search. Basically for me, I can type in the Insignias that I found and it would return possible LP items that it can purchase. So I've made an ingame note now, listing what Insignias and how many to collect for what LP item.
As for pirate tags well, I found the wiki page for datacenters that lets you sell them the tags for faction standings. Now I know what tags to keep, and what tags would be better off to sell.
Looking at the other posts, basically our income will be affected by mineral prices huh? We're like miners that have bounties on asteroids then... |

Angeal MacNova
LankTech
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Posted - 2012.10.13 04:33:00 -
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Yeah, I like the term "Mission Mining".
As someone already said, time is money and if you waste too much time going through the items to pick out specific one, check prices, create sell order, etc. it all adds up.
But with the right filtering and you wait. If you run missions for a particular agent for week after week, then do the picking, refining and selling just once a week.
All the items get processed/sold just the same but in a fraction of the time it would take for a person to do it after each mission run. |

Tao Dolcino
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
14
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Posted - 2012.10.13 05:59:00 -
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But it doesn't change the time you need to harvest all these treasures. For my part, i just live on the bounties (and the rewards), i turn the wrecks on "free for all" and don't touch them. I don't know if i lose money and i don't really care, for i get enough money for my needs and i don't force myself to do something i don't like. |

Josef Djugashvilis
681
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Posted - 2012.10.13 23:13:00 -
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I only really salvage if the mission is in the same 'room' as my agent.
Then, I tend to sell/reprocess once a year.
I just don't like salvaging. This is not a signature. |

Musashi Date
25TH miss
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Posted - 2012.10.14 20:28:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I only really salvage if the mission is in the same 'room' as my agent.
Then, I tend to sell/reprocess once a year.
I just don't like salvaging.
Yeah, I have this corpmate that only salvages/loots when the room has multiple BS/BC or has a significant number of wrecks. He also just reprocesses everything, save for some heavy missiles that he uses. He also just dumps the tags/insignias off the market.. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
170
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:18:00 -
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EVE Refinery software allow to appraise if item is more valuable as single piece or refined. But it takes forever to sort couple of weeks worth loot so at certain point of time I've stopped selling loot and ended up with billion(s) worth pile of garbage.
And switched to loot-less incursions. |

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
191
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Posted - 2012.10.15 05:48:00 -
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When I ran missions a lot, I would save loot until the storyline popped up. Then take 15 missions worth of loot to Jita and quick sell it. I was never concerned about the 5% or whatever. I just wanted to get the stuff gone and start over. |

Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
111
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:59:00 -
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Quick scan using the new cargo buttons to pick out items worth, say, over a mill....then one huge massive recycle.
Stock up the minerals and build stuff.
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Take your built stuff, your salvage, implants from storylines, your expensive found mods and your LP reward stuff and when it gets worth about 800 mill...package it up in one big courier contract and have someone haul it to Jita with a billion collateral.
After a couple of months of this, pop into Jita, sort through your crap and sell it all via sell orders...either instant if it is a decent price or a persistant sell order if it isn't.
Watch the 4-6 billion isk creep into the wallet over the next week.
In short - everything you find in Eve is crap. Take all your crap and put it together until you have a big huge pile o'crap. Sell crap and get something nice :) |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:11:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:EVE Refinery software allow to appraise if item is more valuable as single piece or refined. But it takes forever to sort couple of weeks worth loot so at certain point of time I've stopped selling loot and ended up with billion(s) worth pile of garbage.
And switched to loot-less incursions.
Eve Refinery is great for one or two things at a time; if you have a hangar full of high meta stuffs, it's just about as useless as the market window. If there was a mechanism to allow us to dump an XML file of our hangar contents, then import that into Eve Refinery for batch processing, that would be useful. Until that day it's just do whatever looks right. I don't analyze anything in batches because of the time sink involved. |

Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:57:00 -
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I have a years worth of loot and salvage which is scattered all over eve.. why, cause I am lazy :) I eagerly await the day for CCP to launch a sell all option. Then I can go to Jita, sell all with 1 click and warp away without having to buy a new mouse that as been worn out.... |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
200
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:13:00 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:But it doesn't change the time you need to harvest all these treasures. For my part, i just live on the bounties (and the rewards), i turn the wrecks on "free for all" and don't touch them. I don't know if i lose money and i don't really care, for i get enough money for my needs and i don't force myself to do something i don't like. Well to each his own.
In my experience the loot salvage is worth at least as much as the bounties and mission rewards. Most lvl 4 missions are multiple room. I will let my BS sit for a few minutes for the cap to regen. It rarely takes me more than 5 minutes to completely lott/salvage a room with my alt in a noctis. by the time the loot/salvage is done my cap and shields are full. This seems to actually save me time as I never have to warp off giving my self this small recovery time between rooms.
Leaving the loot & salvage behind is leaving half your isk. say one of the harder lvl 4 mission takes 30 minutes and nets 20 mil in bounties and rewards. the loot & salvage will generally be another 20 mil, some times more with a lucky drop or two. Say it takes me 10 minute total to loot & salvage the entire mission. thats 40 mil isk in 40 minutes as apposed to 20 mil in 30 minutes.
Even if that 10 minutes was spent in the next mission, which is not really feasible as the time I spend doing loot & salvage is while I am waiting for my cap to regen between rooms. If you just run straight into the next room without the recovery time it will slow you down as you will have to be more careful conserving cap. Possibly even warping out on occasion. So at best 5 of the 10 minutes would go into the next mission. Those 5-10 minutes in the next mission would net you at best 3-5 mil as apposed to 20 mil collecting the loot & salvage. So leaving it behind will significantly drop your isk per hour.
True this requires a second account, but if you spend more than 30 hours a month running missions the loot & salvage will pay the plex for that second account even with PLEX prices over 600 mil.
If you prefer just running missions with a single account and have no interest in loot or salvage by all means do what you like to do. But there are several lvl 4 missions that have a chance of dropping faction loot worth several hundred mil. Any elite NPC has a small chance of dropping faction loot. While most named NPCs have a much higher chance. I hope you at least stop to check those wrecks on your way through.
personally I only run missions to raise isk. So isk per hour is my primary driver. To me mission running is almost as boring as mining. There is very little challenge to it.The point of playing an MMO is the community interaction. If you play an MMO as you would a solo single player game you are defeating the purpose. There are many single player games out there that are far more fun than solo missioning that do not require a monthly fee. In an MMO you are paying for the community interaction, It seems very pointless if you are going to ignore the primary focus of the game.
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:25:00 -
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I refine everything <100k in value and dump the rest in a container. Every once in a while (maybe every month or 2), I take it to a trade hub and put up sell orders. I babysit the sell orders to give me something to do while I run missions, travel, etc. |

Raiko Osburn
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
6
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Posted - 2012.10.19 08:01:00 -
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I sell everything in trade hubs. Even ammo. But I stockpile loot and salvage for quite a long time before I go to sell it so even cheapest ammo stack is worth over 200k ISK. No need to rush. Forget numbers, play with ideas, look for solutions. |

Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos En Garde
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Posted - 2012.10.19 16:15:00 -
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perfect refine, so its ctrl a refine. |

Moondancer Starweaver
The Drones Club Shoot 2 Thrill
7
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:40:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:[
personally I only run missions to raise isk. So isk per hour is my primary driver. To me mission running is almost as boring as mining. There is very little challenge to it.The point of playing an MMO is the community interaction. If you play an MMO as you would a solo single player game you are defeating the purpose. There are many single player games out there that are far more fun than solo missioning that do not require a monthly fee. In an MMO you are paying for the community interaction, It seems very pointless if you are going to ignore the primary focus of the game.
Running missions solo doesn't prevent you from interacting with the community in anyway. For me its the time i am most interacting because i do not have to pay as close as attention as i do in most other activities in the game, traveling, PVP etc. |

Voxinian
4
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Posted - 2012.10.21 12:10:00 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:But it doesn't change the time you need to harvest all these treasures. For my part, i just live on the bounties (and the rewards), i turn the wrecks on "free for all" and don't touch them. I don't know if i lose money and i don't really care, for i get enough money for my needs and i don't force myself to do something i don't like.
You are missing out on a lot of isk's without looting. With a lot of missions the loot is worth as much (or more) as the bounties and reward. In a noctis looting goes pretty fast so it's a small effort.
My personal tactics: - Only do L4 missions (with maxed relevant social skills to boost lp's, security gain and reward payout). - Don't refine anything. - Stack up till I have a big pile of everything (saving up for a month or so) - Sell the cheap T1 stuff in newbie systems just below market average (sells fast there) - The higher meta items I sell wherever I am doing missions at - All looted ammo I convert to faction ammo and sell it or use it.
I am not even sure if refining the cheap stuff would make more isk's, but I suspect it wont make a huge difference.
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Tao Dolcino
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
29
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Posted - 2012.10.21 17:13:00 -
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You are very right, but i simply don't like to do loot/salvage, so as long as i get enough money for my needs, i prefer to have more fun :) I was not saying that looting/salvaging is bad, i just wanted to say that some players don't loot/salvage, and that's fine too ;) After all i give a chance to the professionnal salvagers to earn their life too ;) |

Musashi Date
25TH miss
0
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Posted - 2012.10.21 18:12:00 -
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There's actually no right or wrong way, if the way you do it is satisfactory for you, well then that's the best way.. so it's a good thing blitzing thru missions are enough for your needs. |

addelee
The 404
3
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Posted - 2012.10.22 00:09:00 -
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I pretty much sell anything worth over 500k and then store the rest. Once a week (or thereabouts) I'll pass the stuff over to an alt who has 99% refining and reprocess the whole lot. Generally speaking, I'll save the minerals to build something I want to fly so for me, both my navy raven and apoc came from minerals from looting.
Ammo I generally keep regardless of type. If I don't use it, I switch agents fairly regularly and will convert the bog standard ammo into faction ammo using LP points. That's normally when I sell the stuff.
I salvage every site with an alt as they have maxed out salvage skills therefore it doesn't take long. I've found the profit in building rigs is next to nothing therefore have a tendancy of selling the whole lot unless I specifically need a rig myself. |

John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
57
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Posted - 2012.10.22 11:36:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:When I ran missions a lot, I would save loot until the storyline popped up. Then take 15 missions worth of loot to Jita and quick sell it. I was never concerned about the 5% or whatever. I just wanted to get the stuff gone and start over.
This is the way to do it IMHO. The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |

mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:00:00 -
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Nowadays I just blitz missions, I used to loot and salvage on my vargur. But after getting a Tengu alt I just zap through the missions, alot less logistics involved and I noticed an effective increase in daily income due to MUCH higher rate of missions done per hour. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
98
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:57:00 -
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Let a couple mission's worth accrue, keep any Meta 4 in station, haul the rest to the hub. Sell the big items and anything in the green. Anything in the red worth <100K I don't even bother posting. Those and anything at all <10K is immediately reprocessed. Haul the minerals back to station to store until I need to build ammo for my Mach. Which is often. |

Dazz Riiiiiiight
Zombie Space Pirates
10
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:13:00 -
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i do not even pick up rat loot in missions. go in zerg mission cash in repeat
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Musashi Date
25TH miss
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:44:00 -
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Alliria Seedspawn wrote:You utilize the services of Pro Synergy of course, and let us do it for you!!
Honestly at first, I didn't know what the lady was talking about (I mean just look at the post..) but Pro Synergy is a group of like minded salvagers that will do your salvaging for you. You just basically bookmark and contract them, and you get paid.. erm.. wait lemme drag her back here.
..and no, I don't make use of their services. It's just food for thought for the people who regularly leave all that loot behind..
edit: sigh...
Quote: Hi Musashi!
I will most certainly further explain Pro Synergy for you. Pro Synergy is a corporation centered around providing looting and salvaging services to it's customers. Here's how it works...
1. You run a mission near one of our hubs, and abandon all wrecks and cans in every room of your mission. You also bookmark every room of your mission.
2. Turn the mission in.
3. AFTER turning in the mission, you contract the bookmarks via an item exchange contract to Pro Synergy (the corporation). It's very important that this done after the mission has been turned in, as Pro Synergy will be sending out a defenseless Noctis to clean it up, and the Noctis will draw aggro from the mission rats. This will prevent them from cleaning up the site, which will prevent everyone from being paid for that mission.
4. A Pro Synergy salvager will accept the contract and go clean up each room, taking all legal items, and leaving behind all illegal items.
5. The estimated amount recovered from your bookmarks, according to the in game estimator, determines how many points you receive on an internal spreadsheet that's used to keep track of everyone's contributions.
6. All loot and salvage is thrown in with all the loot and salvage from all of our customers. It all goes to the same spot. Every week, one sorry soul has to sift through it all and determine what to reprocess and sell, and what to sell outright. I believe they use active buy orders at the nearest trade hub so they don't have to mess with creating and maintaining sell orders. This way provides quicker isk turnaround for all involved.
7. Pro Synergy takes 10% off the top to pay for corporation bills, and also to pay the person that did all the work of sifting through the thousands of items and determining what to do with it all.
8. 45% is paid to the salvagers that did the work of collecting all of the loot and salvage, and 45% is paid to the customer who did the work of creating the wrecks.
Mr. Melek D'Ivri will be better able to answer any further questions you may have, as he is much more involved with Pro Synergy than I am. He has been included on this eve mail.
Please don't hesitate to evemail or convo either one of us, and please be sure to stop by the public channel of (I think) "Pro Synergy". I think that's the name of the channel, but I'm not logged into game to be sure at the moment (Eve Gate).
Thanks for your interest in Pro Synergy!
-Seed
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
102
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:01:00 -
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I stopped running combat missions about a year ago, but up until then, I used the (then new) sort-by-meta-level feature. I'd haul my stuff to Jita 4-4 (where I have perfect refine for ore, although not quite perfect for reprocessing). I'd reprocess everything that was meta level 0-2, put everything meta level 4 up for Sell Orders (as well as all salvage items), and then make up my mind on a case-by-case basis as to what to do with meta 3 items. Then I'd sell the minerals from the reprocessing.
Keep in mind, this was a year ago, before the new filters and the feature that you can see average in-game values of items when you mouse over them (and apparently also sort by value this way - I did not know that).
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EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.11.03 03:44:00 -
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I keep meta 4s ( the good ones ) refine the junk, sometimes i sell salvage sometimes i make rigs, and use the LP to make ammo or make faction ships. |

Boomhaur
106
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Posted - 2012.11.05 05:52:00 -
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I rarely loot now days but when I do it's only the valuable stuff while I am doing the mission. But I generally sold that and kept the rest of the loot, it's nice to have a large stockpile modules for that off the wall fit you want to test out, or setup a quick ship to do some pew pew or something. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |

Musashi Date
25TH miss
1
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Posted - 2012.11.06 10:57:00 -
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CCP Eterne's reply for Insignias/Tags uses.
CCP Eterne wrote:This depends on which type of dog tag you have.
Many of the LP Store offers ask for dog tags in addition to LP and ISK. You can also sell Empire dog tags to their enemy factions for ISK. Some pirate dog tags can be traded in to certain Agents in Space in exchange for standings boosts, or to some COSMOS agents in exchange for faction ships (supposing you have the requisite faction standing).
Some dog tags are useless, however, such as the dog tags of named pirates (such as Olufemi).
Last time I smashed my tags piggy bank, I managed to raise ~300M in sell orders. The most expensive ones in my experience are empire faction ones (Federation, Republic, etc.). |

Kaomi Zorbaz
Claint Industries
2
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:47:00 -
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I used to salvage most everything. Now I only do the BS heavy missions. The salvage\loot I grab is refined and sold on the market. |

Lord Okinaba
33
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Posted - 2012.11.07 01:10:00 -
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People loot their mission?  |

Threshner
22
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Posted - 2012.11.07 01:56:00 -
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I mission in a nightmare so i loot and salvage every BR or Sansha mission i get. You never know when you will get a get 5 gurista missions in a row like i just did ..... |
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