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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:17:00 -
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Quote: The question i have, or the clarifcation i'd like is this: A non-consensual war would, I suppose, still be a war, but you'd only be able to attack the enemy in non-empire systems?
Then no point in having non-consensual wars :)
Why pay to shoot in a system, where you can shoot em for free.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:33:00 -
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I have made a suggestion that should suit everyone I'm sure.
There isnt enough fun stuff for the Xetic members in 0.0 it seems.
So I suggest moving research/agents (good ones) to 0.0
I also suggest moving all the high end ore to empire systems greater than 0.4
The rats in 0.0 should be mean mofos, but the ore you get should be the top quality veldspar and scordite.. the best that you can find in the belts of Yulai.
While, I would like it so that the poor ppl of empire get to mine some morphite and Bistot along with some amounts of crok and archnor right here in Yulai.
Afterall, I need some insentive to be in empire.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:43:00 -
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Quote: Next time Xetic should spend more time working on how they portray themselves to the Eve community. At this point the only thing missing is some cheaze to serve with the whine. Wouldn't it be better for Xetic to squeak their wheels for some grease in a dev thread (preferable a wheel that doesn't sound like it wants the whole tube of lube)?
Ouch... that was harsh.
But hey my post pretty much says what you did before that last para :)
If 0.0 sucks so much, then why stay in it? There must be a reason.. Maybe the bistot/arkonor is not providing enough ISK. If not, plz by all means come mine the Scordite like all regular lowly empire dwellers you seem to show have it all and then some.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 04:46:00 -
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JO is free and full of cheats JUST LIKE ALL OTHER NOVACRAP games :)
Played them since DF1.. and wouldnt touch any of NOVASUCK products ever again. Got screwed over way too many times. MY fault
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 05:42:00 -
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Quote: 2) Xetic has NEVER had ANY problem with PvP fleets comming into our 0.0 space and fighting us their. It is the Empire wars that tick us off.
Ahh so you have problems since you cannot blob nearly enough in empire? No seriously, why would you have problems with fleets in your space. By the time any fleet gets to it, you could have nearly all 5000 members back into your system. Yeah nice one.. but nah. I have nothing against people who blob, I think its wrong, but its part of the game. And any PvP corp would do it if it meant that they would win. But smart folks wouldnt just run right into BLOBAPALOOZA.
Quote: 4) Curse, Stain, Fountain, and several other areas of 0.0 have NPC stations with full services including agents, and the system still has high end roids in it.. Just a note, it is not somehting that bothers us.
Then why the heck were you adamant on picking that crappy piece of space that you now own? Maybe cuz no one else wanted it? I dunno.. just seems that the other alliances were uhm.. a tad smarter. You could still go and takeover Stain space.. or FA. You seem to "like" PvP. Then go do it. Instead of passively sitting in your bad piece of 0.0 and complaining about it.
Quote: 5) We don't want to leave our space for 1 reason that seems to escape so many of you. It is our home, we would like to build it into something we can be proud of. CCP can make it expensive, hard, time consuming & as risky as they want. But if we had the tools to build our home into a true empire we would do it.
CCP built space, it was you who chose to colonise that part of it. Now you want them to "fix" it. ROFL brilliant. Its your "home" but you sure seem to hate it.
Now there are things that CCP can fix, but the above points are just retarded IMO. You do make some good suggestions regarding having more features/abilities in 0.0 But I see few alliances whining about it the way you do. Makes it almost seem like it was something you did.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 06:24:00 -
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When you claim a chunk of 0.0
You can no longer sit under the tag of a non-PvP entity.
This game is about PvP. And yes it is about PvP economically and in many other ways.
However, it seems simple really. You dont have something you need. Don't pray to God (CCP) to drop it from the sky for free. Go get the place where its at.
Else, I would ask Xetic to petition CCP for a new Universe just for Xetic. There you may do whatever you please.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 06:34:00 -
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But Xetic isn't fixing anything.
All I see are requests to CCP to fix it for them.
Thats the difference.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 06:48:00 -
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Wow thats rather uncalled for.. but hey dont really care.
My only point here is, rather than whine and wait for CCP to fix stuff and threaten to quit the game enmasse. Do something about it proactively.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:03:00 -
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PLZ do not talk about pulses. That topc is near and dear to me. I stopped my minni specific training to use these damned smelly Amarr ships only to see them face the nerfbat. Ahh such is the World. You live/learn and move on.
Xetic space has its issues and not having refining nearby your best belts is one of them. I personally have nothing against the ability to build/run refineries nearby these places.
However, if this means that 0.0 can become totaly secluded/independent from empire then we have a problem. What you end up with is a choice select who have friends/alliances in 0.0 that get all the goodies and the newer chars either get into these or get left behind.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:08:00 -
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Quote: Hobbs you know I like you personally. Are you telling me that some of the concerns that xetic players and others have. Well thought out, well written concerns haven't been dismissed as Xetic carebear whining? You also have to admit that the current situation has to benefit pure pvp corps like Supremacy and is to the detriment of groupls like Xetic with a large number of non pvper's. Our non pvp'ers HAVE to have access to empire. Which makes them big fat targets for groups like you. The things that concern us are advantages to you.
Hey, in that whole week of war, I did not once come across ONE hauler or mission runner. Sure some must have died in the process.. that is bound to happen. But almost every thing we(the ops I was in) ran into was out there to fight. It was fun for me, and I am going to assume it was for them as well.
I have prolly killed a few haulers, but the only 2 I remember were in friggie raids into Xetic space (not during waR) and actually picked up some nice Megacyte from some guy to distribute amongst ourselves.
I am no ELITE pvper, but I try my level best. I am on some killmails and on quite some death ones too. But you will find that most of the kills we had against Xetic were valid PvP targets.
Not to say we didnt kill the one off hauler we found.. but such is war.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.19 07:14:00 -
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Anyhow, time for rl stuff. I am posting so much on forums cuz for a few days I wont be playing much of Eve if at all.. otherwise you wouldnt have even seen me post these things.
Gonna try and refrain from this kind of stuff for a bit.
I would like to assure you of one thing though.. we are in the war for fun. We expect some good fights, and some blobbing (to be expected its part and parcel of this game) and you can expect some of the same from us (though we will fight outnumbered too if we fancy our chances).
We will gank a hauler if we see it, wouldnt expect any different from Xetic if they saw one of ours. But mostly we are looking for good clean fights. We try and avoid smack, but when fights start.. things can get ugly on both sides.. its not a common occurence.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.21 05:25:00 -
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Quote: Well you're partially right on that. A lot of people don't like us and they're almost all pvp'ers. Something about a big group of people who want to do their own thing, not cause anyone any trouble and build a peaceful alliance makes them pant like rabid dogs. People hate us not because we're warmongers or pirates. They'd respect that. They seem to have an instinctive need to cause pain and strife. And that's why we call them griefers. I have no respect for pvp'ers who pick on non pvp'ers and use the currently stupid empire rules to pirate in HIGH SEC space.
Please disband your alliance and move into empire. Leave the 0.0 space for those who are able then. If you claim 0.0, then you might as well forget about not being hostile. You are taking a resource from people who would like to use it.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.21 07:29:00 -
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Quote: why can't we deploy POS at gates ? why can't we defend territories with our own sentries why can't we hire npc patrols ?
You forgot to add the Why can't we click the "Kill all of our enemies with the Tbolt from Zeus" button.
Seems you only want to make zillions more, but not really work for it.. rofl.
Good thing CCP think otherwise.
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