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Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:48:00 -
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Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places.
So CCP, this is how your game stands at the moment.
Null Sec - Mostly empty unless u are within a 5 jump range of alliance hub. I have personally led roams around null sec and low sec and have seen empty system after empty system, why? Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change. Null Sec is broken and instead of fixing it, u want to bring fancy new ships out and bugger high sec even more.
Missions - PvPers, don't kid yourself, unless you are hardcore, my level 4's only net me about 50mil a night in bounties and 25mil in loot in my t2 fit mega. You have successful had ccp[ nerfs missions so hard now, that in retrospect it is not worth doing missions for ISK unless you have no life and can sit on this game 24/7.
Mining - What's the point? With a mack at full skills i pull in maybe 5mil worth of minerals per load, so over the course of 5 hours, ive made 25mil in mining, with ships costing hundreds of millions? Whats the damn point.
FW - This is an absolute joke, most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum and the FW *alliance* chat as it were, is just a bunch of people trolling each other because there is no one there to moderate it. The plexes are a joke, frig/dessy plexes, a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?
Low Sec pvp/mining - due to the massive rise in cloaky ships, mining in low sec unless its a VERY quiet area or u have huge protection, low sec ores go to waste, it is simple to easy to die in low sec, i see no reason for low sec. It should be removed and placed under FW null sec.
PVP - lol atm, plain lol, solo pvp? ha, small gang pvp before u get blobbed ten seconds after hitting sov space? haha. No effin point, fw pvp? lol unless u have a decent corp, with a player decline? lol. grief corps? whats the point, costs to much to war dec corps.
bounty system - are i frickin kiddings me? able to make anyone a target at a whim? im gonna laugh as people quit the game in droves because they are not safe anywhere at all. this system, will be the death blow of eve, i really think it will, it will bring more pvpers out of null and low sec, it will make empire a completely pvp based area as sumone annoys u by sitting on a gate? bounty them? sumone mines your roid? bounty them? sumone bumps u on a station? bounty them, well done ccp, well done
So there it is, a players perspective on ur game as he has played, no *false ideas*, i have played ALL aspects of eve, why am i still here? mainly cause my accounts are all paid for another 8 months, but after that? Unless the player base picks up, i will be going. EvE is slowly disintegrating, u need to sort it out.
Taranius |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5118
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:49:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change.
hahaha what? This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:51:00 -
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Andski wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change. hahaha what?
Another idiot, lemme explain it
Sov space is empty mostly, so they go to empire looking for haulers n the what not, ive seen it n been part of it. So dont troll for the saek fo trolling
null sec is to easy to hold, far to easy |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:52:00 -
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LOL, you're just trolling like a kid It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
444
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:52:00 -
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Missions in a megathron?  I don't always troll, but when I do I do it on EVE Online forums.
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Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:54:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:LOL, you're just trolling like a kid
Post with your main coward.
No trolling, this is how i see eve, i have played all aspects, i have 4 accounts, this is what i see eve as it is, i have done it all
U call it trolling i call u a stupid child who cant think of an intelligent response so u troll a post instead |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:55:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:Missions in a megathron? 
works very well
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/7092-Perfected-Megathron-Mission-Ship.html
try it :) very quick
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5119
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:56:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Another idiot, lemme explain it
Sov space is empty mostly, so they go to empire looking for haulers n the what not, ive seen it n been part of it. So dont troll for the saek fo trolling
null sec is to easy to hold, far to easy
No, not quite on the mark. Sorry.
Nullsec is empty because, quite frankly, one is better off funding their PvP with empire alts even if they hold the best space in the game. Before FW farming, it was incursions. Before incursions, it was L4s. There is no reason to deal with the greater amount of effort required to make ISK in nullsec if you can make the same amount in empire with far less effort and in the same time.
But the reason nullsec guys go to empire to kill your freighter is not because sov space is empty, but because dudes tend to load their life's worth into the things, making it quite lucrative to kill them. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Jim Hazard
Scrubfleet
26
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:57:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places.
So CCP, this is how your game stands at the moment.
Null Sec - Mostly empty unless u are within a 5 jump range of alliance hub. I have personally led roams around null sec and low sec and have seen empty system after empty system, why? Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change. Null Sec is broken and instead of fixing it, u want to bring fancy new ships out and bugger high sec even more.
Do not need to read further than that, to see that reading on is not worth it. Do you really think smaller alliances will have an easier time living in 0.0 if defending sov gets harder? Exactly the opposite will happen, if you make it easier to take sov, the big players with huge supercap fleets or an insane number of members will just steamroll small alliances that try to go out there faster.
Also holding sov is not a requirement to live in 0.0 and to have fun. |

Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
130
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:58:00 -
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Some good points OP I agree with.
Now that you have your list of grievances, how about some proposed fixs? Anyone can complain all day, the people who care will offer fixs. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
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Adoro
Reikoku The Retirement Club
14
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:58:00 -
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How long have you been playing this game? |

Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
14
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:59:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:bounty system - are i frickin kiddings me? able to make anyone a target at a whim? im gonna laugh as people quit the game in droves because they are not safe anywhere at all. And I will laugh as you try to make a target of someone who has no killrights against them, only to find it works nothing like the way you think it does.
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Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
445
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:59:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Dominix is better. If you have t2 sentries.
I don't always troll, but when I do I do it on EVE Online forums.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:59:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Ditch one or two hardeners for tracking enhancers It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
130
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:02:00 -
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Also posting opinions as "Factual and truthful" is not true, its your opinion. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5119
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:02:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: Ditch one or two hardeners for tracking enhancers
You're looking at the tip of the iceberg that is that trainwreck of a fit. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:03:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: Ditch one or two hardeners for tracking enhancers You're looking at the tip of the iceberg that is that trainwreck of a fit.
I'm going for the low-hanging fruit here
It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Alice Saki
10324
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:05:00 -
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OP is a Kid and a troll :) Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Benilopax
Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing
369
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:08:00 -
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You might want to read the dev blog again on bounty hunting.
Placing a bounty doesn't make people a suspect, only if they have kill rights can you make them a suspect. ... |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
176
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:09:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults.
:Words:
Taranius
1) Starts off post by reassuring everyone he's not a 14 year old, he isn't a geek and he has a life.
2) Doesn't really get anything he's posting about.
3) Signs his post with his name.
Almost definitely a 14 year old kid. |
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Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
234
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:10:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote: Null Sec - Mostly empty unless u are within a 5 jump range of alliance hub. I have personally led roams around null sec and low sec and have seen empty system after empty system
PVP - small gang pvp before u get blobbed ten seconds after hitting sov space?
When ranting/trolling it helps if you don't contradict yourself in the first post.
0/10 |

Alice Saki
10325
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:12:00 -
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I Agree with OP 100%
I'm not 14, I have 20 Kids, a Home and a Big Fancy Car
Signed Alice
^_^ Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
15
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:21:00 -
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Alice is a kid and a troll. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
159
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:28:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places.
Taranius
I would not call you a casual gamer either. |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:31:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:I Agree with OP 100%
I'm not 14, I have 20 Kids, a Home and a Big Fancy Car
Signed Alice
^_^
Standard BS crap[ that the forum *police* miss, is idiots like you trolling non stop just for the pure hell of it |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9860
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:32:00 -
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So if I glossed over that correctly, all mission runners and miners have no clue what they're doing, PvP requires friends, and the OP doesn't understand bountiesGǪ? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:So if I glossed over that correctly, all mission runners and miners have no clue what they're doing, PvP requires friends, and the OP doesn't understand bountiesGǪ?
grow up |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:38:00 -
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You really do have a problem if you think Tippia is a troll It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Alice Saki
10354
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:41:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Tippia wrote:So if I glossed over that correctly, all mission runners and miners have no clue what they're doing, PvP requires friends, and the OP doesn't understand bountiesGǪ? grow up
Good advice for yourself :) Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
238
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:42:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Tippia wrote:So if I glossed over that correctly, all mission runners and miners have no clue what they're doing, PvP requires friends, and the OP doesn't understand bountiesGǪ? grow up Good advice for yourself :)
Another alt
But this what you do isnt it? A player makes a complaint, you and your little geeky virgin friends troll the hell out of it trying to be *funny* and *witty* and *amusing* because that is how you work but sucessfully making the OP give up
Gj, wd, pat on the back
Its pathetic |
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Alice Saki
10361
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:44:00 -
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Love you too ^_^
I'd use my main, but this avatar looks better :P Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
1038
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:45:00 -
[32] - Quote
Sigh. You should really quit EVE. You got this all wrong.
Funny about too easy holding sov btw. Very funny. Should take a look at soco and tell them the same as they are retreating into Stain 
psst, here's my main. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9862
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:45:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:But this what you do isnt it? A player makes a complaint, you and your little geeky virgin friends troll the hell out of it trying to be *funny* and *witty* and *amusing* because that is how you work but sucessfully making the OP give up If you don't like trolling, then perhaps you shouldn't open a thread with oneGǪ hmm? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Alice Saki
10361
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:47:00 -
[34] - Quote
Taranius De Trolloville Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:48:00 -
[35] - Quote
Alice Saki wrote:Taranius De Trolloville
Shitting bricks now I see it It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
239
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:But this what you do isnt it? A player makes a complaint, you and your little geeky virgin friends troll the hell out of it trying to be *funny* and *witty* and *amusing* because that is how you work but sucessfully making the OP give up If you don't like trolling, then perhaps you shouldn't open a thread with oneGǪ hmm?
Not even gonna bother playing your game you child |

Alice Saki
10361
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:51:00 -
[37] - Quote
But you must play the game ^_^ Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Josef Djugashvilis
679
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:53:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: Dominix is better. If you have t2 sentries.
Unfortunately, this is true.
I consider the Megathron to be the best looking ship in the game, and would love to use one.
But for running lvl 4 missions to fund my lo-sec pvp, the Dominix is far better.
This may change now that my super tough, super fast drones will be targetted in missions in the forthcoming the winter expansion. This is not a signature. |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
239
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:57:00 -
[39] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Kehro Urgus wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: Dominix is better. If you have t2 sentries. Unfortunately, this is true. I consider the Megathron to be the best looking ship in the game, and would love to use one. But for running lvl 4 missions to fund my lo-sec pvp, the Dominix is far better. This may change now that my super tough, super fast drones will be targetted in missions in the forthcoming the winter expansion.
Aye i find it easier, its hardier and it works much better than a domi tbfh. The fit works well |

Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
16
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:58:00 -
[40] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I consider the Megathron to be the best looking ship in the game, and would love to use one. No! Machariel is much better-looking. Megathron is for children and trolls.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9862
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:04:00 -
[41] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Not even gonna bother playing your game you child So you can't really think of anything that would make your stance seem better informed and less trollish.
That's not a good signGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
90
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:05:00 -
[42] - Quote
Blaster Mega might be kinda fun in missions, make them less boring. Maybe if the OP put in some random profanity people would take him more seriously? |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
239
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:06:00 -
[43] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Not even gonna bother playing your game you child So you can't really think of anything that would make your stance seem better informed and less trollish. That's not a good signGǪ
Don't twist words to suit your own ends. Your original comment was pathetic, offensive and as normal trying to provoke an argument. The amount u post on here makes me wonder if you ever play eve online or your a no lifer on state handouts living with your mum.
Im not gonna reply to you anymore, your pathetic |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
239
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
Danks wrote:Blaster Mega might be kinda fun in missions, make them less boring. Maybe if the OP put in some random profanity people would take him more seriously?
Why should i swear? Or be offensive?
I see no reason to |

Jim Hazard
Scrubfleet
26
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:11:00 -
[45] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Alice Saki wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Tippia wrote:So if I glossed over that correctly, all mission runners and miners have no clue what they're doing, PvP requires friends, and the OP doesn't understand bountiesGǪ? grow up Good advice for yourself :) Another alt But this what you do isnt it? A player makes a complaint, you and your little geeky virgin friends troll the hell out of it trying to be *funny* and *witty* and *amusing* because that is how you work but sucessfully making the OP give up Gj, wd, pat on the back Its pathetic
People are only pointing out that all the crap you wrote there is simple wrong. If you would have put some thought into your post instead of just rambling about stuff you do not like, but have no evidence of it not working as intended people would also give you reasonable replies.
I did not even have to read past the 2nd paragraph to figure out that your post can be summed up this way:
"Hi all, I want to point out that i am a mature guy with a family so everything i say here is the truth. I am playing this game for roughly 30 hours / week, although I do not like the game at all. Please change the game for me so that I do not feel like wasting time on a bad game." |

Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
642
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:15:00 -
[46] - Quote
I can't say I've done all that, but I'd want to quit too if I'd done it all that badly. Post with your monkey.
CCP Gargant: Thread locked due to lack of pants. |

Abannan
Moira. Villore Accords
48
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:19:00 -
[47] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote: , a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?
If this is truth, your 4 dessy pilots are the worst in existance and should quit eve, lol |

Renton Brax
Crimson Cell
10
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:22:00 -
[48] - Quote
Your DOB 2012/06/05. You've been in 6 corps. Eve is a slow game, for instant gratification most people play WoT or CS:GO. Your points miss the mark but this is understandable for someone that hasn't had time to get stuck into anything properly yet.
Also, its not all about isk. Set your own goals.
Also, a married man who plays that much can be considered a hardcore gamer, fair? |

nat longshot
solo and loveing it
104
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:23:00 -
[49] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places.
So CCP, this is how your game stands at the moment.
Null Sec - Mostly empty unless u are within a 5 jump range of alliance hub. I have personally led roams around null sec and low sec and have seen empty system after empty system, why? Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change. Null Sec is broken and instead of fixing it, u want to bring fancy new ships out and bugger high sec even more.
Missions - PvPers, don't kid yourself, unless you are hardcore, my level 4's only net me about 50mil a night in bounties and 25mil in loot in my t2 fit mega. You have successful had ccp[ nerfs missions so hard now, that in retrospect it is not worth doing missions for ISK unless you have no life and can sit on this game 24/7.
Mining - What's the point? With a mack at full skills i pull in maybe 5mil worth of minerals per load, so over the course of 5 hours, ive made 25mil in mining, with ships costing hundreds of millions? Whats the damn point.
FW - This is an absolute joke, most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum and the FW *alliance* chat as it were, is just a bunch of people trolling each other because there is no one there to moderate it. The plexes are a joke, frig/dessy plexes, a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?
Low Sec pvp/mining - due to the massive rise in cloaky ships, mining in low sec unless its a VERY quiet area or u have huge protection, low sec ores go to waste, it is simple to easy to die in low sec, i see no reason for low sec. It should be removed and placed under FW null sec.
PVP - lol atm, plain lol, solo pvp? ha, small gang pvp before u get blobbed ten seconds after hitting sov space? haha. No effin point, fw pvp? lol unless u have a decent corp, with a player decline? lol. grief corps? whats the point, costs to much to war dec corps.
bounty system - are i frickin kiddings me? able to make anyone a target at a whim? im gonna laugh as people quit the game in droves because they are not safe anywhere at all. this system, will be the death blow of eve, i really think it will, it will bring more pvpers out of null and low sec, it will make empire a completely pvp based area as sumone annoys u by sitting on a gate? bounty them? sumone mines your roid? bounty them? sumone bumps u on a station? bounty them, well done ccp, well done
So there it is, a players perspective on ur game as he has played, no *false ideas*, i have played ALL aspects of eve, why am i still here? mainly cause my accounts are all paid for another 8 months, but after that? Unless the player base picks up, i will be going. EvE is slowly disintegrating, u need to sort it out.
Taranius Mission's---50 mil for running level 4's for 2 to 3 hours a night in a t2 fit mega lol and you say you have 4 accounts i run 2 account and duel box my mission 's and can make 100mil with bountys and loot/sal in a hour. so when you save you've done it all i really think you have alot to learn Or your full of sh** and the latter beening the the case.
Bounty System---As for the bounty system I think you need to read more on how it is going to work bounty after the winter patch will not make it open pvp in high all high rules will still apply. Now kill rights on the other hand will be changing how kill rights work and well i can tell you this i will be buying kill rights from players and hunting people after the winter patch that a sure thing.
PVP--- is have allway been and will allway be who bring the most friends to the fight just like the rw. HTFU.
Low sec and 0.0--- i cant speak about there been sometime that i have flown down there but from the crying ya mostly dead unless you have sov. but that 0.0 is it not.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9862
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Don't twist words to suit your own ends. It was a direct quote. Any twisting would have had to exist in the original. Calling your own words twisted is not a good sign either and doesn't inspire confidence in anything you've written (if what you had written had ever done anything of the sort to begin withGǪ).
Quote:Your original comment was pathetic, offensive and as normal trying to provoke an argument. If it was pathetic and offensive, it would have been easy to shred it, but nothing of the kind has been done. As for provoking an argumentGǪ no, it's a response to the GǣprovocationGǥ you posted. Of course, posting on a forum is kind of all about arguing things so trying to paint it in that kind of negative language rather suggests that you're a bit confused about what you're doing here.
The facts remain: if mission runners and miners really do it like that, they are painfully clueless about what they're doing; your complaints about PvP amount to saying that GÇö surprise! GÇö more players will have an advantage over a single player; and that you haven't fully grasped how bounties work.
Quote:Im not gonna reply to you anymore, your pathetic My pathetic what? You can't really use an adjective without a noun like that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
90
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:02:00 -
[51] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Danks wrote:Blaster Mega might be kinda fun in missions, make them less boring. Maybe if the OP put in some random profanity people would take him more seriously? Why should i swear? Or be offensive? I see no reason to
Your current tack doesn't seem to be working, maybe try something different? |

Josef Djugashvilis
679
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
Shederov Blood wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I consider the Megathron to be the best looking ship in the game, and would love to use one. No! Machariel is much better-looking. Megathron is for children and trolls.
I am sure you called me a child and a troll in a nice way. Thank you.
Worse part is, I cannot even remember being 14.
Something worth remembering must have happened to me in 1969, but it is so long ago.... This is not a signature. |

AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
120
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:13:00 -
[53] - Quote
"FW - This is an absolute joke, most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum and the FW *alliance* chat as it were, is just a bunch of people trolling each other because there is no one there to moderate it. The plexes are a joke, frig/dessy plexes, a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?"
Im sorry, what? I can only assume you spent minimal time in faction warfare. Although i am interested to know how your survey of every corp recruiting in faction warfare went. Decent people do use the militia chat but for obvious reason they are wary of it.
Faction warfare as it stands is fun rewarding and easily the best way to find PVP if your a decent human being who find a reasonable corp to work with
Fiscal Fisting, Amarr Militia Corp Recruiting Now - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=161199&find=unread-á |

Jim Hazard
Scrubfleet
26
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:14:00 -
[54] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I consider the Megathron to be the best looking ship in the game, and would love to use one. No! Machariel is much better-looking. Megathron is for children and trolls. I am sure you called me a child and a troll in a nice way. Thank you. Worse part is, I cannot even remember being 14. Something worth remembering must have happened to me in 1969, but it is so long ago....
to be fair.. with that age you are not too far from needing diapers as well :P |

F'elch
Wall Street Trading
19
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:43:00 -
[55] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
...i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life...
...I have 4 accounts...
OK. |

Meditril
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
138
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:48:00 -
[56] - Quote
I haven't read all the post in between but I will try to be constructive with regards to your post. With regards to time I play in EVE it is similar to you, only about 10 hours a week.
- Null Sec: What exactly do you expect here? 0.0 should be empty. There are even people saying it is too crowded. I love empty 0.0 systems for NPC farming from time to time.
- Missions: Missions are made for the fun of solving a task. They are not there to give you ISK for nothing. Many people say that level 4 missions have a too high payout. If you want to make real money fast go into a Wormhole or do Faction Warefare missions.
- Mining: Lazy job you can do AFKisch in high-sec. So payout is low. You want more payout then go to 0.0 or Wormholes.
- FW: You just need to do it right. Join a corp like TRIAD and you will be happy. I am very happy with FW and my corp and we also accept noobs. Bonus: FW will get even more improved.
- Cloaked ships show up in local... where is the thread? Just mine in grav sites and you are almost save. At least you will see scanner probes which give you an indication that it is time to hide in a few minutes.
- Solo PVP... is indeed not easy to find but still there. Especially with regards to FW. Stop whining just search for the right targets.
- Bounty hunting: Will be fixed with next build.
I hope you got some ideas how to resolve your problems. By the way: You should try out wormholes if quick ISK making is what you are looking for. Alternatively FW plexing or mission running can be also very nice if you do it well... at least until the next patch comes out.
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places.
So CCP, this is how your game stands at the moment.
Null Sec - Mostly empty unless u are within a 5 jump range of alliance hub. I have personally led roams around null sec and low sec and have seen empty system after empty system, why? Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change. Null Sec is broken and instead of fixing it, u want to bring fancy new ships out and bugger high sec even more.
Missions - PvPers, don't kid yourself, unless you are hardcore, my level 4's only net me about 50mil a night in bounties and 25mil in loot in my t2 fit mega. You have successful had ccp[ nerfs missions so hard now, that in retrospect it is not worth doing missions for ISK unless you have no life and can sit on this game 24/7.
Mining - What's the point? With a mack at full skills i pull in maybe 5mil worth of minerals per load, so over the course of 5 hours, ive made 25mil in mining, with ships costing hundreds of millions? Whats the damn point.
FW - This is an absolute joke, most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum and the FW *alliance* chat as it were, is just a bunch of people trolling each other because there is no one there to moderate it. The plexes are a joke, frig/dessy plexes, a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?
Low Sec pvp/mining - due to the massive rise in cloaky ships, mining in low sec unless its a VERY quiet area or u have huge protection, low sec ores go to waste, it is simple to easy to die in low sec, i see no reason for low sec. It should be removed and placed under FW null sec.
PVP - lol atm, plain lol, solo pvp? ha, small gang pvp before u get blobbed ten seconds after hitting sov space? haha. No effin point, fw pvp? lol unless u have a decent corp, with a player decline? lol. grief corps? whats the point, costs to much to war dec corps.
bounty system - are i frickin kiddings me? able to make anyone a target at a whim? im gonna laugh as people quit the game in droves because they are not safe anywhere at all. this system, will be the death blow of eve, i really think it will, it will bring more pvpers out of null and low sec, it will make empire a completely pvp based area as sumone annoys u by sitting on a gate? bounty them? sumone mines your roid? bounty them? sumone bumps u on a station? bounty them, well done ccp, well done
So there it is, a players perspective on ur game as he has played, no *false ideas*, i have played ALL aspects of eve, why am i still here? mainly cause my accounts are all paid for another 8 months, but after that? Unless the player base picks up, i will be going. EvE is slowly disintegrating, u need to sort it out.
Taranius
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Robert De'Arneth
107
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:02:00 -
[57] - Quote
Well opinions vary in the immortal words of Dalton!! Also, the fact that you would call Tippia a troll shows that you lack common sense. :) As was pointed out, if you have 4 accounts, play 3 hours during week and 5-6 on weekends, you sir a hardcore gamer!! When you hate a game as much as you seem to, it is time to step away.
I enjoy eve, and like several of the fixes coming up. *shrug* You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |

Gun Gal
Dark Club
121
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults.
:Words:
Taranius 1) Starts off post by reassuring everyone he's not a 14 year old, he isn't a geek and he has a life. 2) Doesn't really get anything he's posting about. 3) Signs his post with his name. Almost definitely a 14 year old kid.
And yet, he's pretty much nailed what the problems are, and if you idiots can't see it,and troll like your doing, goes to show how far the game has fallen and how stupid the players are getting |

Alice Saki
10377
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:21:00 -
[59] - Quote
Problem isn't the game, It's how we play it ^^ Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
2059
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:54:00 -
[60] - Quote
This thread is going places.
Don't hate the player, hate the game... But most of your problems are to do with players... Which means hate the- *explodes* "Love is just a chemical, no matter the origin. We give it meaning by choice." - Eleanor Lamb |
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Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
19
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Posted - 2012.10.12 13:59:00 -
[61] - Quote
Lyskal Oskold wrote:This thread is going places.
Don't hate the player, hate the game... But most of your problems are to do with players... Which means hate the- *explodes* But the game made us this way! Only Hello Kitty Online can save us now! |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1328
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:02:00 -
[62] - Quote
Check check,
Ok everybody X up if you're going to place bounty on Taranius Consolblahblas's head Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1328
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:02:00 -
[63] - Quote
x Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Robert De'Arneth
107
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:05:00 -
[64] - Quote
Roime wrote:Check check,
Ok everybody X up if you're going to place bounty on Taranius Consolblahblas's head
I offer up 4 ISK for his bounty!! You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1806
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:35:00 -
[65] - Quote
So let's see, boilerplate insults...
Taranius De Consolville wrote: Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places.
You play more Eve than I do, and I have no life. You are a hardcore geek, have no life, and are a kid for even trying to wave this in people's face. Also I strongly doubt you have played "all" aspects of Eve.
So, on to your points:
Null Sec is broken and empty. It is, but as people have pointed out, it's also because of there being little incentive to actually make money there as opposed to farming empire space. On top of that, there is no good way for new groups to get involved other than joining a giant pre-existing bloc.
Missions [...] only net me about 50mil a night in bounties and 25mil in loot in my t2 fit mega. Try another ship. Also, missions are pretty well balanced as far as ISK-making goes... at least, compared to the stupid-broken other stuff going on. If you want giant amounts of ISK, go do something else.
Eve PvE is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself, unless your chosen end is boring yourself to tears.
Mining - What's the point? Mining ships typically do not have points.
Eve PvE is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself, unless your chosen end is boring yourself to tears.
FW. As the CEO of a FW corp, I feel I should address this point by point.
- Most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum. Most bad corps require stuff like that. There are plenty that do not, and I'm curious how you missed them.
- FW *alliance* chat [...] is just a bunch of people trolling each other. It is a hive of scum and villainy. I'd say "join a real corp" but you seem to be bad at finding one.
- 4 dessies vs 1 Merlin. Those were the most poorly flown dessies in the history of forever.
- 'if u dont have billions, oh dear?' I don't see your point. Even properly flown T1 crapships can do a lot (check my corp's KB). I suggest a small dose of STFU+HTFU, and prescribe you some L2P.
Low Sec pvp/mining I suggest a small dose of STFU+HTFU, and prescribe you some L2P. My corp bases out of lowsec, and I don't see any of the problems you describe.
PVP - lol atm, plain lol, solo pvp? ha, small gang pvp before u get blobbed ten seconds after hitting sov space? haha. No effin point, fw pvp? lol unless u have a decent corp, with a player decline? lol. grief corps? whats the point, costs to much to war dec corps.
- Solo PvP is hard -- turns out that being solo in a multiplayer game puts you at a disadvantage. Who would have thought?
- FW PvP is there and pretty sweet. Will only get better with Retribution.
- Grief corps -- you're missing the point of them.
- You omitted all other kinds of PvP. Good job.
bounty system whine. Read over the devblog again. You can only be "made a target at will" if you got criminal aggression on a particular person, and that person decides to get back at you.
Quote:So there it is, a players perspective on ur game as he has played, no *false ideas*, i have played ALL aspects of eve, why am i still here? mainly cause my accounts are all paid for another 8 months, but after that? Unless the player base picks up, i will be going. EvE is slowly disintegrating, u need to sort it out.
So here it is: you are a naive ass with an inferiority complex who feels he needs to justify himself to be "grown up", with serious delusions about having experienced all aspects of Eve (having issues with 10m SP limits is a dead giveaway), really bad at English, and just overall made of terrible. I would recommend re-evaluating why you're even playing this game, and if you decide you want to play, use a single account and delve into the content more substantially.
You are also probably a troll. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
233
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:57:00 -
[66] - Quote
Quote: hey kids, don't call me kid
Was there more in your OP? |
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ISD Praetoxx
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
340

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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:11:00 -
[67] - Quote
Caution, cleaning in progress. Floor may be slippery.
Thread locked temporarily. ISD Praetoxx Ensign Community Communication Liasons (CCLs) Interstellar Service Department |
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octahexx Charante
Morior Invictus. Ethereal Dawn
17
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Posted - 2012.10.12 21:24:00 -
[68] - Quote
Instead of trolling you im gonna be constructive here.
You havent found the right corp/alliance/people.
Its the social part that makes or breaks eve no the grinding....everything in eve is grinding more or less..its the people who makes it possible to tolerate. |

III ZiggyBang
One Point 0
5
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Posted - 2012.10.12 22:03:00 -
[69] - Quote
endorsing this product & or service.
edit; naughty school children will be treated as such, offensive/colourful language removed, I decide what is allowed at all times, I am GOD, you are underlings Muahahahaha. ISD Type40. |

III ZiggyBang
One Point 0
5
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Posted - 2012.10.12 22:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
ISD Praetoxx wrote:Mind your step. Floor has been polished. If you accidentally your knee and attempt to file a lawsuit ... I will just skip the advert you star in.
On a serious note, I have cleaned the thread of all non-relevant posts/content. Please try stay on topic and post constructive replies.
I know it is difficult, but remember that we all had to start somewhere.
Also, I won EVE. - ISD Praetoxx
In other news, control freaks find a healthy outlet for their fascist tendencies on the EvE Online forums, where they serial censor the ideas & thoughts of paying customers they don't agree with. |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
647
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Posted - 2012.10.12 22:14:00 -
[71] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Null Sec - Mostly empty unless u are within a 5 jump range of alliance hub. I have personally led roams around null sec and low sec and have seen empty system after empty system, why? Because most pvp corps are in empire because it is to easy to hold sov, this needs to change. Null Sec is broken and instead of fixing it, u want to bring fancy new ships out and bugger high sec even more.
I agree... nullsec has some major problems at the moment... Sov Mechanics are extremely Coallition Oriented, and unless its under the protection of some big entity, a small entity has NO CHANCE at taking and holding sov....
Taranius De Consolville wrote: FW - This is an absolute joke, most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum and the FW *alliance* chat as it were, is just a bunch of people trolling each other because there is no one there to moderate it. The plexes are a joke, frig/dessy plexes, a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?
You need to stop sucking and learn to PvP.... FW is cheesy... as it rewards orbiting a button and running away rather than actual PvP... Also, Offgrid boosters are a MAJOR problem there.....
Taranius De Consolville wrote:PVP - lol atm, plain lol, solo pvp? ha, small gang pvp before u get blobbed ten seconds after hitting sov space? haha. No effin point, fw pvp? lol unless u have a decent corp, with a player decline? lol. grief corps? whats the point, costs to much to war dec corps.
There's good PvP to be had... although most of it seems to be in the FW arena at the moment...
Taranius De Consolville wrote: bounty system - are i frickin kiddings me? able to make anyone a target at a whim? im gonna laugh as people quit the game in droves because they are not safe anywhere at all. this system, will be the death blow of eve, i really think it will, it will bring more pvpers out of null and low sec, it will make empire a completely pvp based area as sumone annoys u by sitting on a gate? bounty them? sumone mines your roid? bounty them? sumone bumps u on a station? bounty them, well done ccp, well done
Even if all of eve gains a 1b isk bounty on them tomorrow.... what will this really stop you from doing?? How will this really hurt the game?? It wont... it will just encourage more pewpew.... And have a bounty... get in a ship and go lose it to shed your bounty... I bet you can have fun doing it!
When your accounts expire... can I have your stuff??? |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2717
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Posted - 2012.10.12 22:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
III ZiggyBang wrote:ISD Praetoxx wrote:Mind your step. Floor has been polished. If you accidentally your knee and attempt to file a lawsuit ... I will just skip the advert you star in.
On a serious note, I have cleaned the thread of all non-relevant posts/content. Please try stay on topic and post constructive replies.
I know it is difficult, but remember that we all had to start somewhere.
Also, I won EVE. - ISD Praetoxx In other news, control freaks find a healthy outlet for their fascist tendencies on the EvE Online forums, where they serial censor the ideas & thoughts of paying customers they don't agree with.
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Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2012.10.12 23:34:00 -
[73] - Quote
Bittervet is bitter. That's what the OP sounds to me.
Everyone who's playing EVE intense for a couple of years should understand what kind of game you are playing and how such a game works. EVE is MMORP(S)G. I repeat in full words: Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplay (Sandbox) Game. What does this mean? Well. Very simple. That it's highly dynamic, controlled by thousands of players playing it differently and due to it's social and economical concept very close - sometimes too close - to RL. You have to work to earn ISK to buy stuff to stay alive in the game. CCP defined rules and mechanics and they have to deal with the influence and feedback of the community. Some mechanics might be broken and need to be fixed. Sure. But in all of my 8 years I am playing EVE I never found anything in the game what made me such frustrated to start a big crybaby thread on the forums. I agree to some issues the OP mentioned but there's nothing I am not able to deal with. EVE needs patience in any case. If you are looking for a game you can master on your terms, EVE is the wrong place. People are still complaining about broken mechanics, blobs, imbalance, 24/7 hardcore nerds without a RL, ECM, ECM, ECM, no solo PvP anymore... the list is endless. Those people are just too lazy or not able to adapt and change. They want things work the simple way like a straight forward linear run in a Arcade game what you can master by finding the walkthrough pattern. EVE is not working like that and I am still surprised hat especially the old players still don't get it what type of game they are playing and why there's always a bigger fleet. CCP can't solve that for us. It's up to us to solve it. If you can't play in a group, if you can't afford to play expensive, if you don't have the better skills... don't complain at those ones who fly in a group, fly in expensive ships and beat you becaue they have the better skills or know how to master the grid. You get blobbed but you wanted that 1v1 so bad? Wrong game, mate. It's a MMORPG. And not a 2003 with a few thousands online only anymore. Deal with it. Period. You are annoyed by this afk cloaker? Learn to live with it and don't cry for probes finding a cloaky. In RL noone is fixing the problems for you. You might get support or help by others but finally you have to fix them. Just saying.
I had a blast in EVE so far. Null, w-space, low, a bit high, FW... I have faced a lot of fun and ****. I have an intense RL with wife, kids and friends. I have time to play EVE. Limited time. So I just focused on PvP with two accounts and sub-alts for asset- and cyno-logistics - what boosts the chance to survive on a fair level: not scared to engage small groups, flying through low and null easily, winning much, losing less - and I do not stress myself out by running EVE on 4+ accounts trying to make ISK to feed my PvP hunger. Spending my time in RL to make EUROS is hard enough. So I simply don't care about bearing and convert GTC into PLEX. ISK problem solved. If I have time some day to collect all my loot I have left behind or just sell my loot I move with my carrier all the time. i would have around 30 bil more. But I doubt that this will ever happen. I even have two years old officer stuff hard to sell on my terms. So what.
There's nothing broke in EVE what ruins my fun. If the new bounty system will drop massive bounty on me or someone is selling the killrights to someone who thinks he can kill me. I can't wait for the good fights. If CCP brings something new: I will adapt or ignore. I learned to survive in this game and I know how and when to PvP. I take the risk. I love the thrill. I still think that this game is the best game ever. Because it's different, a real adventure with a never ending challange.
And last but not least I made over 4 billion at tier 5 cashout just by FW-PvP the last 3 months. Should I really complain?
No. Good hunting. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
844
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Posted - 2012.10.13 00:01:00 -
[74] - Quote
Confirming the OP has played all aspects of this game including wormholes, incursions, trading, manufacturing, research and ship spinning. If only he could report on how awful those aspects are. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
74
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Posted - 2012.10.13 02:21:00 -
[75] - Quote
Kult Altol wrote:Some good points OP I agree with.
Now that you have your list of grievances, how about some proposed fixs? Anyone can complain all day, the people who care will offer fixs.
You / we / ccp - cant fix eve. thats why they are doing different game its called DUST. I think that CCP knows that eve is dying, they have all data about players.
So yeah.. |

Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.13 04:00:00 -
[76] - Quote
Renton Brax wrote: Also, a married man who plays that much can be considered a hardcore gamer, fair?
Or married more than 10 years.
I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
133
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Posted - 2012.10.13 04:58:00 -
[77] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
Before anyone starts trolling and calling me a kid, im a married man i play eve for maybe 3-5 hours a night and 5-6 hours a day on the weekend, i am not a hardcore geek nor do i have no life, so you can drop the insults. I have 4 accounts and i play all aspects of this game. Also before i go ahead, i am dyslexic so the grammar will be, not so good in places. That's 25 to 37 hours a week.
Assuming 7 hours of sleep a night, that's 21-31% of your waking hours per week.
A casual gamer you are not (it just seems you're trying hard to come across as a casual player).
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Tragedy
The Creepshow
42
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Posted - 2012.10.13 06:34:00 -
[78] - Quote
You play for 3-5 hours a night and say you have a life? ....Do you work for 3 hours a day? |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.10.13 12:25:00 -
[79] - Quote
Loving the heteronormative comments assuming that because he's a man he has to be the breadwinner of the family. Perhaps his wife/husband works 10 to 12 hours days, allowing him to stay home and raise the kids (a work-at-home-dad) and play some EVE when the kids are asleep. It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
344
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Posted - 2012.10.13 12:50:00 -
[80] - Quote
To cover all your points;
- Nullsec is not empty, trust me, I live there. - I used to earn 100m per day running missions in a Rattlesnake. You can earn more in a Golum or a Tengu. - The new Mack is an improvement on the old Hulk for solo mining, don't whine, that's actually an improvement. ( - Also, making ISK afk should be slower than other methods, end of. Sell the minerals smartly and you'll get significantly more than 5m per load.) - Never tried FW, but everyone I know and play with says its fantastic. So your outvoted apparently. - Lowsec wasted? Agreed in most part. - Your doing PvP wrong, if your getting blobbed its because you don't know what your doing. - You've misunderstood the bounty system. I can't possible correct all your stupidity in on point.
Eve is not dying, subs go up every year like clockwork. Most of this is just based on a false assumption, do some damn research. I think somewhere in this thread someone said he was just a bitter vet... He is not a vet. |
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Generals4
1532
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Posted - 2012.10.13 13:39:00 -
[81] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
FW - This is an absolute joke, most FW corps require ten mil sp minimum and the FW *alliance* chat as it were, is just a bunch of people trolling each other because there is no one there to moderate it. The plexes are a joke, frig/dessy plexes, a dude goes in a merlin, full faction fit, we send in 4 dessys to take him out, what does he do? Annihilates us with ease, farms his plex and moves on, if u dont have billions, oh dear?
Tell me how is it FW's fault for you and your buddies to suck so hard you lose 4 dessies against a merlin? I don't care how well his merlin is fitted but if you lose 4 dessies against a merlin you're the one absolutely doing it wrong. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
212
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Posted - 2012.10.13 17:23:00 -
[82] - Quote
Nanatoa wrote:Andski wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: Ditch one or two hardeners for tracking enhancers You're looking at the tip of the iceberg that is that trainwreck of a fit. I'm going for the low-hanging fruit here
Actually you are griefing his post. The fit is a good mission fit. Disconnect is the biggest ship killer in missions. That ship might still be there when you log back in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |

Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
24
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Posted - 2012.10.13 17:28:00 -
[83] - Quote
Agree with most of OPs points, or at least the gist of it and the spirit of the argument. Although I feel points being left out and professions being forgotten, like manufacturing?
And I'm not of the opinion that EVE is broken or dying, just getting mature. |

Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
20
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Posted - 2012.10.14 11:55:00 -
[84] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Hi
So CCP, this is how your game stands at the moment. Taranius
I have also been in this game a long time and done a bit of everything.
Null Sec - Agree sov needs to be activity based, empty space is boring.. Disagree pvp corps are in high sec. Don't see straight up fights nor skirmishes just a couple of guys picking on people who generally are incapable of fighting. I don't call this PVP, PVP is challanging and open and I got out of highsec 'PVP' a long time ago because of this. In 0.0 were you live and who you fly with makes the experience 100% different.
Missions - Agree missions are now crap, a long time ago some missions where so hard and so rewarding they required teamwork of 2-4 people, now? its a boring grind themepark and doesn't support team play and has no risk or reward.
Mining - Mining in an organised group is very profitable and many people like it boring (why.. I have never figured out), other people like to pick on them, nice fields and farms. It needs more challenge however for more risk in exploration sites so people have a reason to bring miners orcas exploration logistics and combat ships all supporting each other. It could be awesome if content is added (ie not boring).
FW - Depends who you do it with. Just like 0.0 you fly with morons expect moronic gameplay. FW was poorly conceived and implimented by CCP but at the core is a good feature that just needs some work and balance and requires teamwork to do.
Low Sec pvp/mining - Depends who you do it with. Just like 0.0 you fly with morons expect moronic gameplay. Low sec needs more work and CCP are doing some stuff right now that may make it better or worse. I would like to see pirate content along the lines of FW where you can join pirate factions or concord militia and mix it up. Low sec is ok it just needs more reward for the risk to populate it.
PVP - 'unless you have a decent corp' - you hit the nail on the head I think the issue is you in the end. You could play eve and find it utterly terrible if you never meet the right bunch of people, just like in life. Solo PVP is still possible in a fast high DPS ship, generally the use of an 2nd account scout / recon pilot makes it very hard to be killed unless you do something truly stupid.
Bounty system - Pretty sure you can only shoot people that have been greifing people and someone has kill rights on them and stuck a bounty on them. On paper it may work but I can see this being poorly done by CCP. The whole right click pay for instant kill is potentially flawed, however you know if someone has killrights and PVPs in high sec shouldn't be too worried about having to PVP anytime they are undocked as if they where in 0.0 right? Right? lol the tears of high sec 'pvper' are so so sweet!
Eve is not disintegrating it is constantly changing, keep up or fall off.. but find someone decent to fly with and learn how to play.
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Michael1995
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
37
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Posted - 2012.10.14 12:05:00 -
[85] - Quote
I see you missed out on Wormholes, maybe you should spend your last 8 months trying them out. Also, for solo/small gang pvp, I hear FW can be good for that. One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
814
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Posted - 2012.10.14 12:11:00 -
[86] - Quote
Kehro Urgus wrote:Missions in a megathron? 
You clearly have no idea how much you're trolling yourself here, but you gave me a nice smile reading your tiny post. 
brb |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.10.14 12:36:00 -
[87] - Quote
Ioci wrote:Disconnect is the biggest ship killer in missions. That ship might still be there when you log back in. Typical reaction from a carebear. Going for safety in a once-a-year event by lowering your efficiency all year long. It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
362
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Posted - 2012.10.14 13:53:00 -
[88] - Quote
Is this topic really still going?
Why? |

qDoctor Strangelove
TaskF0rce Executive Vice Empire
42
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Posted - 2012.10.14 14:20:00 -
[89] - Quote
So, numbers are theown around here.
How do you make 250 million doing level 5 missions for 5 hours? ( that is 50 mill an hour... )
How do you make half a billion doing NULL sec ratting?
I claim bullshit on both these claims |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
243
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:00:00 -
[90] - Quote
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:So, numbers are theown around here.
How do you make 250 million doing level 5 missions for 5 hours? ( that is 50 mill an hour... )
How do you make half a billion doing NULL sec ratting?
I claim bullshit on both these claims
ofc it is, but u only have to read the replies to see what kinda player base this game really has
in eve u have two options
Become an elistis pvp prick
or quit
because everything else gets nerfed like hell by pvp alt complaining because they fuxed there own game up by murdering empire players non stop, now they cant stop, so new players dont have a chance, quit and no new players come up.
rise in subscriptions? No, rise in alt accounts |
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Idris Helion
University of Caille Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:22:00 -
[91] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Mining - What's the point? With a mack at full skills i pull in maybe 5mil worth of minerals per load, so over the course of 5 hours, ive made 25mil in mining, with ships costing hundreds of millions? Whats the damn point.
With trit and pye now fetching such good prices, I'm finding that I can get about 12-15M ISK per hour per miner out in the belt. The more miners you get in a belt, the more it pays. Even with a little 2-man mining corp, you should easily be able to make 50M ISK/hr. That's not great wages compared to some L4 missions, but it's stable and very predictable. You can do this in a Retriever costing about 20M ISK apiece, too -- you don't need a Mack for hisec mining. It can bump your yield some, but it's not necessary.
You also need to have your entire logistics chain in place to make mining pay off. You need good refining skills, a freighter to get your minerals to market, and a good sense of when to sell and when to stockpile. You need to know when to dump your minerals on a buy order or set up sell orders. (In fact, I rarely sell my minerals on the market any more. I do most of my business by contract these days. I sell in bulk and remove the overhead of transaction taxes and market fees.)
It's easy to mine badly, and it sounds to me like you're doing it badly.
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Idris Helion
University of Caille Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2012.10.14 15:57:00 -
[92] - Quote
One other thing I'd say about EVE -- it's a very slow game. Very slow. You spend 90% of your time either harvesting stuff to make ISK, or doing logistics and staging work to prepare for some op. It's sort of like a big military operation: you spend most of your time preparing and waiting, then a small fraction actually doing the thing you were preparing for. Then you start all over again. This is the core design of every MMO I'm aware of, and EVE is no different.
Early on in my EVE career, I became incredibly frustrated at the real-time training system. No matter how much or how little I played the game, there was no way to increase my skills other than time. Every other game levels you up according to how much you play, but in EVE there are no "levels". Only skills. And the only way to skill up is to take the days, weeks, and months necessary to train. It's slow work, and you have to have a clear idea of where you want to go in the game in order for it to be worthwhile, because initially, EVE is not a very fun game to play. In the early going, it's a boring, maddening grind. (Even more so than most MMO's.) There is no guidance, no hand-holding. You're easy prey for every pirate and ganker that comes along. All the good stuff -- a POS, a faction ship, an exhumer, whatever -- is months of training and standings-grinding away. (Not to mention hundreds of millions of ISK.)
So why does EVE persist long after most games have faded away? I think it's because it appeals to players who play the "long game". Their goals are months and sometimes years in the making. EVE is brutally unkind to the immediate-gratification player. EVE reminds me more of the old military sims like HARPOON more than anything. It's not a shooter or a space-combat sim; it's a slow and deliberate strategy game that plays out over months and years.
tl;dr - More than anything else, EVE takes patience. That's a lot for a video-game to ask, but so it is. If you find that it asks too much, there's no shame in just moving on. You can't "lose" at EVE any more than you can "win" at EVE. If it's not fun any more, just stop playing.
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Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
131
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Posted - 2012.10.14 17:08:00 -
[93] - Quote
Mining sucks!
Botting sucks even harder - need to introduce prospecting - scannable asteroid deposits otherwise unavailable for mining.
All known empire rocks should be barren by now. Yield very low mineral contents.
Killing NPCs in belts - illogical, best make NPCs come for you in low and null sec randomly and unpredictably.
Missions gotta be randomly generated, some sort of mission AI guidelines. Missions need to be longer and more challenging.
Null sec could use less choke-points. Remove local intel is absolute must. So that you can only see your members but not hostile members. And possibly total count per constellation without exact names. |

Idris Helion
University of Caille Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.10.14 17:20:00 -
[94] - Quote
Opertone wrote:Mining sucks!
Botting sucks even harder - need to introduce prospecting - scannable asteroid deposits otherwise unavailable for mining.
All known empire rocks should be barren by now. Yield very low mineral contents.
Doing this would completely break the game economy. EVE needs huge amounts of trit, all day, every day. Limit that supply and you break the game. Which is why it won't happen. For better or worse, hisec mining is what it is and probably will always be.
Now, this is not to say that CCP can't augment the mining process. And it seems like they are doing this -- the new mining frigate is a welcome addition, and I hear that CCP is experimenting with a "ring mining" mechanic that would add a new scanning element to the process.
But mining is what it is. After ten years, CCP is not going to fool with that mechanic much. It is too central to the game economy.
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Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
243
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Posted - 2012.10.14 17:24:00 -
[95] - Quote
Idris Helion wrote:Opertone wrote:Mining sucks!
Botting sucks even harder - need to introduce prospecting - scannable asteroid deposits otherwise unavailable for mining.
All known empire rocks should be barren by now. Yield very low mineral contents.
Doing this would completely break the game economy. EVE needs huge amounts of trit, all day, every day. Limit that supply and you break the game. Which is why it won't happen. For better or worse, hisec mining is what it is and probably will always be. Now, this is not to say that CCP can't augment the mining process. And it seems like they are doing this -- the new mining frigate is a welcome addition, and I hear that CCP is experimenting with a "ring mining" mechanic that would add a new scanning element to the process. But mining is what it is. After ten years, CCP is not going to fool with that mechanic much. It is too central to the game economy.
Mining no longer controls the economy. You would do well to remember that. |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
360
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Posted - 2012.10.14 17:47:00 -
[96] - Quote
Why is it that, in the "minds" of most ultra-carebears, "anyone who has anything to do with non-consensual PvP in any manner at any time whatsoever" always = "raging RL dickhead?"
Granted, the latter is easier to type, but....Yeah.
I can haz ur stuffs, OP?
Oh, and in before lock. Stealth Bomber bombs and covert-bridging in hisec naow, please: It's the only way to make sure! |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
243
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Posted - 2012.10.14 17:55:00 -
[97] - Quote
Lyrrashae wrote:Why is it that, in the "minds" of most ultra-carebears, "anyone who has anything to do with non-consensual PvP in any manner at any time whatsoever" always = "raging RL dickhead?"
Granted, the latter is easier to type, but....Yeah.
I can haz ur stuffs, OP?
Oh, and in before lock.
Another idiot who read the first line and stopped reading
This has nothing to do with pvp as a whole, i enjoy pvp u fool
Next time understand the post before you comment
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
360
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Posted - 2012.10.14 18:03:00 -
[98] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:Why is it that, in the "minds" of most ultra-carebears, "anyone who has anything to do with non-consensual PvP in any manner at any time whatsoever" always = "raging RL dickhead?"
Granted, the latter is easier to type, but....Yeah.
I can haz ur stuffs, OP?
Oh, and in before lock. Another idiot who read the first line and stopped reading This has nothing to do with pvp as a whole, i enjoy pvp u fool Next time understand the post before you comment
I read the rest of your whining.
And then I assigned it the value it was worth, namely, ****-all. Carebear is a mentality, not a killboard score. And yours absolutely stinks of it, mate. That's all I needed to know.
Biomass button, that way -----> Stealth Bomber bombs and covert-bridging in hisec naow, please: It's the only way to make sure! |

Taranius De Consolville
Curse Of The Chosen
244
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Posted - 2012.10.14 18:09:00 -
[99] - Quote
Lyrrashae wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:Why is it that, in the "minds" of most ultra-carebears, "anyone who has anything to do with non-consensual PvP in any manner at any time whatsoever" always = "raging RL dickhead?"
Granted, the latter is easier to type, but....Yeah.
I can haz ur stuffs, OP?
Oh, and in before lock. Another idiot who read the first line and stopped reading This has nothing to do with pvp as a whole, i enjoy pvp u fool Next time understand the post before you comment I read the rest of your whining. And then I assigned it the value it was worth, namely, ****-all. Carebear is a mentality, not a killboard score. And yours absolutely stinks of it, mate. That's all I needed to know. Biomass button, that way ----->
Your an idiot and id own you 1v1 easily, your an elitists child who fears change, who fears when people dont need your space to roam in to make money, so u have to put yourself at risk, your killboard stats are a joke, u think this mission char i pvp on? lol, pure 100% lol
You think i cry?
You think i rage?
I couldnt care less what you think for your own ego |

Adeleda Adoudel
Welp The Monkey Free Enterprise Treaty Organization
17
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Posted - 2012.10.14 18:19:00 -
[100] - Quote
I see a lot of ranting about 0.0 being empty but tbf, if every system was full you wouldn't get 2 jumps into Sov space without crying blob because alliences defend their space. There's plenty of fights to be had there if you know where to look. |
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
360
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Posted - 2012.10.14 19:02:00 -
[101] - Quote
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Your an idiot and id own you 1v1 easily, your an elitists child who fears change, who fears when people dont need your space to roam in to make money, so u have to put yourself at risk, your killboard stats are a joke, u think this mission char i pvp on? lol, pure 100% lol
You think i cry?
You think i rage?
I couldnt care less what you think for your own ego
1) "You're," not "your."
2) A lot of people could own me 1v1, and have. But I'm not so "elitists" that I think that that actually matters on any real level. Google "projection," bru, and then look in a mirror.
3) "My" space? I wasn't aware that individuals could hold sov in hi- or losec, did CCP change this recently?
4) My killboard stats being a joke would seem to imply that I do indeed put myself at risk, although it's been awhile since I've done any PvP (new hot-rod PC coming soon should remedy that, though. URP-SPLOSION --quite possibly my ship's and/or pod's-- TYME NAOW SOON!).
5) So who's your main, then? This is mine. Stand and back up what you say openly, or **** off, you sanctimonious little hypocritical coward. Which compels the question, why are you hiding behind an alt.? Someone clearly as awesome at PvP as you should have little to fear. (In a video-game? )
6) Your trolling lacks panache and originality, but you gain points for all the responses: I would say....
...Hmmmm...
...
6.5/10.
Not bad, not bad, but work on your style more.
Next!
Stealth Bomber bombs and covert-bridging in hisec naow, please: It's the only way to make sure! |
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