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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.19 19:00:00 -
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Star Fraction owner-captains are actively posting this image in all the stations they visit in the Amarr claimed-space.
Support FREEDOM!
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Jaydom
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Posted - 2005.03.19 19:19:00 -
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Have you thought that maybe they do not wish to be released?
(funny I thougth mamet 500 was a race, god im a redneck)
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.19 19:52:00 -
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You think that since threats and violence have both failed, that posters will work?
Besides, that picture is just plain wrong. Chains are not needed to keep those workers in place.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.03.19 19:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Rodj Blake
Chains are not needed to keep those workers in place.
I dare say not when you employ the chemical cosh, slaver hounds and the threat of torture and execution.
The poster is not 'wrong' oh literal-minded slaver, it is symbolic.
The Cosmopolite
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.03.19 20:13:00 -
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Gaven looks at the poster
No.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.03.19 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Graelyn on 19/03/2005 22:43:02
I think it truly hilarious that the 500 slaves the Star Fraction would wish to liberate would kill any man who tried to take them from thier duties.
Read a bit more about them from thier last owner. Do a little of that research that would have saved you from the utter defeat you are suffering in space.
Based on what I hear of thier physical prowess, I do not think SF has the resources necessary to force thier ideas of 'freedom' upon them.
Ah well, just something to give you a chuckle on as you go on about your business.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.03.20 00:45:00 -
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Dogs
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.03.20 00:53:00 -
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<Chuckles>
I believe I am enjoying the patented Amarr formula for diplomacy.
Step 1:
I think whatever you say is funny in it's shear stupidity.
Step 2:
Insult them because they are not me.
Step 3:
Insult them again for good measure to make sure they know they are not me.
Step 4:
Tell them they are inferior due to steps 2&3 and quote religious text to support this step.
Step 5:
State that they will be subjegated out of mercy and say they will be destroyed if they dont accept my kindness.
Step 6:
Laugh
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Jaydom
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Posted - 2005.03.20 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jaydom on 20/03/2005 03:59:51
How many hundreds if not thousands of Star Fraction employee's have died trying to "save" these 500 souls who are on their way to enlightenment and freedom through God?
Your methods are as unsound as your ideology.
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.03.20 04:24:00 -
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Let's all try to show an example of Star Fraction Humor:
Yeah you're not seeing things. It's all blank. 
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Nooey
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Posted - 2005.03.20 15:31:00 -
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You're so right right Dau...
I mean, what with GLB Entertainment releasing new comedies every week, new products to entertain and beautify the world with smiles and laughter - (And Kayleigh and kerrolyn's recent wedding, which I'll remind you, seemed to amuse even the CVA "Big Names")
And...
Aphoxema's "No to Boxes!" and Lord Plush Religion...
Yeh...really...we're totally humourless...
But wow, you guys are a total laugh riot. What with the whole religious dogma, and the slavery, and the "You will die for your sins heathen" punchlines...
You guys are just the EPITOME of hilarity.
Really...
What's even funnier in all of it, is that the joke is on you.
*Erupts into laughter and heads back into the doors of La Maison singing*
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Regardie
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Posted - 2005.03.20 18:55:00 -
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Leaving the issue of what is humorous aside, as few seem be able to agree on what is funny or not. I must say that I am impressed by the Star Fraction's creative abilities.
However, to see such efforts wasted on frivolity and ideological nonsense is a shame to say the least. There are only two permanent states that are post-human, the faithful who have ascended in to heaven and the sinners who burn in hell.
Your efforts to sow terror and anarchy amongst the faithful will fail as so many have tried to do so before. Although the path to repentance and enlightenment is a long and torturous one the rewards in the true post-human state, when the soul is released from its mortal coil, is either an eternity of salvation or damnation.
The choice is yours.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.20 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: theRaptor on 20/03/2005 20:00:38
Originally by: Regardie
Leaving the issue of what is humorous aside, as few seem be able to agree on what is funny or not. I must say that I am impressed by the Star Fraction's creative abilities.
However, to see such efforts wasted on frivolity and ideological nonsense is a shame to say the least. There are only two permanent states that are post-human, the faithful who have ascended in to heaven and the sinners who burn in hell.
Your efforts to sow terror and anarchy amongst the faithful will fail as so many have tried to do so before. Although the path to repentance and enlightenment is a long and torturous one the rewards in the true post-human state, when the soul is released from its mortal coil, is either an eternity of salvation or damnation.
The choice is yours.
Religion is ideological nonsense. We do not fight for what may or may not happen when we die, but for what happens when we are alive.
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Vlad Konstantinov
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Posted - 2005.03.20 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Vlad Konstantinov on 20/03/2005 22:33:07
What happens when you are alive trying to wage war on our way of life is...
...you die.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.21 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 21/03/2005 10:44:30
Originally by: theRaptor
Religion is ideological nonsense. We do not fight for what may or may not happen when we die, but for what happens when we are alive.
What's ideological nonsense is when an alliance goes around declaring war on people in order to "free" slaves, when it's own members possess slaves and openly market slave-holding technology.
You may not agree with us. You may find our stance distasteful. But at least we are consistent in our views. At least we in the CVA are united in our purpose.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Regardie
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Posted - 2005.03.30 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Religion is ideological nonsense. We do not fight for what may or may not happen when we die, but for what happens when we are alive.
Thank you for re-stating my point regarding a person's deeds. It is in this life that our actions count. In this life that we can make a difference to tip the scales towards either good or evil.
That you appear to choose to be answerable only to other people or to yourself is unfortunate to say the least. Whilst a heathen's ethics may change over the course of their life-times numerous times - the true believers remain steadfast in the faith in the Emperor and God.
The post-human state is one without choices. Save your soul now, for there is no repentance in the afterlife.
Regardie
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.03.30 17:04:00 -
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Ah, but does the posthuman need some supernatural intangible parent figure to scowl and shake a finger at him from eternity to do good?
Religious fearmongering: the new Vitoc! 
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.30 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Regardie
The post-human state is one without choices. Save your soul now, for there is no repentance in the afterlife.
Regardie
It took you 10 days to come up with that?
Please' spare us the necroposting for the sake of publishing the same tired rhetoric. It's a shame that your Corpus Vile Alliance thinks this has any bearing on anything outside of your sad, theocratic little 'world'.
I've seen the afterlife - it's called 'cloning'. You 'priests' really need to catch up with technology.
There is no 'god'.
Ecce post-homo...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.30 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
It's a shame that your Corpus Vile Alliance thinks this has any bearing on anything outside of your sad, theocratic little 'world'.
Well , this issue must have some bearing outside of our world, seeing as how it was you who started this conversation.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.30 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Well , this issue must have some bearing outside of our world, seeing as how it was you who started this conversation.
There there Rodj. Do figure out what I'm talking about before you reply next time... *sighs*
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Regardie
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:28:00 -
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Seto Mazzarotto, the posthuman needs nothing. It is a soul that was once attached to our mortal coils that either recieves its rewards in heaven or hell - depending on our actions during this life-time.
If you are talking about the Star Fractions' concept of 'posthuman', then in answer to your question I would say that some do need reminding of the consequences of their actions. Others follow the path of the one true faith more due to love of God rather than fear of eternal suffering.
It is a balance of love and fear of God that we each much deal with. Should you wish to learn more of this I can arrange for an inquisitor to instruct you in these matters.
Seto Mazzarotto, you strike me as a man with vision. I would like to ask what motivates you, what driving force beats within your heathen heart?
Regardie
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Regardie
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:35:00 -
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Jakk Graiseach, other duties prevented me from responding to you before now. If my belated answer offends you, then I will not apologise for that.
Secondly I am not a priest, I am simply a man of faith who seeks to save as many souls as is possible. Your talk of having seen the afterlife and other blasphemies highlights your lack of tolerance of other people's beliefs.
Isn't tolerance one of the tennets that the Star Fraction stands for? Isn't that what is necessary for a group to promote "the expression of freedom on a vital and personal level"?
Irregardless, I do not believe that you or I will see eye to eye on this matter. Therefore I propose that we lay our dispute to rest here. May God have mercy on your soul.
Regardie
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 30/03/2005 19:20:12
Originally by: Regardie
Seto Mazzarotto, the posthuman needs nothing. It is a soul that was once attached to our mortal coils that either recieves its rewards in heaven or hell - depending on our actions during this life-time.
If you are talking about the Star Fractions' concept of 'posthuman', then in answer to your question I would say that some do need reminding of the consequences of their actions. Others follow the path of the one true faith more due to love of God rather than fear of eternal suffering.
It is a balance of love and fear of God that we each much deal with. Should you wish to learn more of this I can arrange for an inquisitor to instruct you in these matters.
Seto Mazzarotto, you strike me as a man with vision. I would like to ask what motivates you, what driving force beats within your heathen heart?
Regardie
The posthuman, in my eyes, is the individual whose end is entirely decideable by him. Physical death is an inconvenience, but with today's technology such things are temporary matters. As a posthuman, the lithe interceptor I choose as my preferred vessel is an extension of my body, and with it I tear through the vast expanse at speeds faster than light. Volleys from fearsome weapons are loosed into the bellies of my worthy opponents with a thought and a reflex action. As a posthuman I am one with my ship, I am one with technology, I am one with the cosmos. A demigod, if you will, released into the heavens to converge with others like me to discuss our differing opinions about the fates of mere mortals.
As for consequence, if one contemplates the impact his movements will have on his fellow man and lives with a free-thinking, altruistic spirit, I'm sure whatever negative impact had will be offset by the good.
As for my personal drive... I'm flattered that you'd ask this young heathen. My philosophy is simple; live with no regrets, keep my conscience clean. I want to make a difference for the greater good, but untainted by the touch of an authoritarian will. I will be ruled by no one.
Many Caldari consider me strange for being remotely spiritual. I believe in a greater driving force, but I won't let it sway my actions in any way. And if damnation is my fate, I'll have the courage to stand tall at my judgement and tell Him that I didn't need His encouragement or His threats to do what good I managed to do. I'd then add that I lived my good life out of my own volition, and that that's more than can be said for half the souls He's let into His paradise.
And then I'd step down into the pit unbowed, unbroken, and forever defiant.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:30:00 -
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In a previous thread I told my reasons to consider the Cross of the Sacred Throne Order 'only' (and only for that particular thread) to be the highest reward available for an Amarrian of the Empire without going into depth. Now it's the time to go into depth and to look at the history of the Sacred Throne Order.
info about the Cross of the Sacred Throne Order:
"Created 1500 years ago during the Moral Reform when the struggle between the Emperor and the Council of Apostels was at its peak. The Sacred Throne Order was initially a secret order created by the Emperor in his darkest hour consisting only of his most loyal supporters. The Cross is awarded by the Imperial Chamberlain on behalf of the Emperor to those that show loyality and love for the Emperor beyond the call of duty."
It's a difficult situation. House Khanid was also involved when old traditions were broken during the Moral Reform and a new order was established in the Empire. Without proper information about the Moral Reform I can not make qualified comments. With the knowledge about the history of the Sacred Throne Order the latest statement of the Court Chamberlain sounds ironical to me.
Originally by: (Court/Imperial) Chamberlain Dochuta Karsoth
Since the Empire was founded, we have placed a great deal of emphasis on our traditions and customs. It is these traditions and customs that define the Empire and its many provinces. It seems that ironically enough, some forget this in their passion to support us.
Ironically the Cross of the Sacred Throne Order can be seen as a symbol for breaking old amarrian traditions. I am also very tempted to speak once again about Pax Amarria when we are talking about breaking old traditions.
I am pretty sure the CVA will follow the advice of the Imperial Chamberlain since their loyality to the Emperor is unimpeachable.
Somehow I am not surprised to see this stunt of propaganda from Star Fraction. When its comfortable for them they say their declaration of war was not because of slavery (since there are slave holders among them, too) but because of territorial blabla. Now they see a chance to make points riding on the 'free the slaves' bandwagon.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 30/03/2005 19:57:38
Originally by: Ardor
Somehow I am not surprised to see this stunt of propaganda from Star Fraction. When its comfortable for them they say their declaration of war was not because of slavery (since there are slave holders among them, too) but because of territorial blabla. Now they see a chance to make points riding on the 'free the slaves' bandwagon.
I personally voted 'yes' for the declaration due to your twisting of 'freespace' into thinly veiled Imperial expansion. The issue surrounding the slaves was more or less the catalyst for a powder keg already primed to detonate.
I've said it before myself: sever all ties to the Empire, give up the slave trade, and all will be peachy. We'll even likely help you keep Deliverance clear.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.03.30 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Seto Mazzarotto
I personally voted 'yes' for the declaration due to your twisting of 'freespace' into thinly veiled Imperial expansion. The issue surrounding the slaves was more or less the catalyst for a powder keg already primed to detonate.
I've said it before myself: sever all ties to the Empire, give up the slave trade, and all will be peachy. We'll even likely help you keep Deliverance clear.
I am not a member of the CVA. But since you demand to give up slave trade I would like to hear if this is an official demand of the Star Fraction.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor
I am not a member of the CVA. But since you demand to give up slave trade I would like to hear if this is an official demand of the Star Fraction.
You obviously can't read or you'd know the answer to that. Stop wasting our time with your vacuous polemic offal...
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Regardie
Isn't tolerance one of the tennets that the Star Fraction stands for? Isn't that what is necessary for a group to promote "the expression of freedom on a vital and personal level"?
You may believe whatever you like - the problems arise when you decide to impose secular laws upon others based on those beliefs. You are aware of our stance on these issues - please refrain from any further pointless posturing and attempts at muddying the waters. It really is quite pathetic.
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Irregardless, I do not believe that you or I will see eye to eye on this matter. Therefore I propose that we lay our dispute to rest here. May God have mercy on your soul.
Regardie
There is no 'god' - I have no 'soul'. Save your breath for someone who buys into your twisted delusions.
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Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead.
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Kular
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:47:00 -
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There is no 'god' - I have no 'soul'. Save your breath for someone who buys into your twisted delusions.
When one day you die and your new clone fails or is destroyed, then you shall know just how wrong you are.
I will be smiling down on you that day
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Skinman
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Skinman on 30/03/2005 22:11:46
It is a sad state of affairs when our estiemed foes can do nothing to counter valid arguments, but reach for the moral high ground that is out of their reach.
I would suggest that all parties involved in this discussion actually make an argument for or against in this thread before posting, and maybe, just maybe, respect may be earned, rather than contempt.
Skinman
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