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Ignatius Leopardi The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation The CodeX Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.10.14 23:07:00 - [1] - Quote I recall reading in the CSM meeting minutes something about a revision to the current approach to POSs. The points that caught my eye were: -- Can be owned by individual players -- Personalized to reflect a sense of home -- Anchorable just about anywhere -- Streamlined anchoring mechanic I haven't seen much information on that since, although I could have missed it. Anyone know what's up with this? I think those changes would be most excellent.
Idris Helion University of Caille Gallente Federation 172	Posted - 2012.10.14 23:12:00 - [2] - Quote Here's some changes I'd like to see: 1. Being able to actually dock and live in your POS full-time. (A hab module that has a "captain's quarters" would be cool.) 2. Being able to repair/repackage ships and modules. 3. Unification of manufacturing types into one module (modules, drones, and ammo). I don't see the sense in having so many different kinds of mfg modules. 4. A less nasty management interface. 5. Instead of having three control towers (small, med, large), simply allow powergrid and CPU to be upgraded via modules. Increased CPU/grid means increased fuel consumption.
SmilingVagrant GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 675	Posted - 2012.10.14 23:57:00 - [3] - Quote Idris Helion wrote: Here's some changes I'd like to see: 1. Being able to actually dock and live in your POS full-time. (A hab module that has a "captain's quarters" would be cool.) 2. Being able to repair/repackage ships and modules. 3. Unification of manufacturing types into one module (modules, drones, and ammo). I don't see the sense in having so many different kinds of mfg modules. 4. A less nasty management interface. 5. Instead of having three control towers (small, med, large), simply allow powergrid and CPU to be upgraded via modules. Increased CPU/grid means increased fuel consumption. 1. Shouldn't happen. This would destroy the value of station eggs. 2. Sure why not. 3. Rather than this I'd like to see pos that lets you link various modules that do this. 4. Yes please. 5. I'm neutral on this.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2739	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:00:00 - [4] - Quote Flavor crystals... CCP I found a better way to go about amarr ammo! "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2568	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:27:00 - [5] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: Idris Helion wrote: Here's some changes I'd like to see: 1. Being able to actually dock and live in your POS full-time. (A hab module that has a "captain's quarters" would be cool.) 2. Being able to repair/repackage ships and modules. 3. Unification of manufacturing types into one module (modules, drones, and ammo). I don't see the sense in having so many different kinds of mfg modules. 4. A less nasty management interface. 5. Instead of having three control towers (small, med, large), simply allow powergrid and CPU to be upgraded via modules. Increased CPU/grid means increased fuel consumption. 1. Shouldn't happen. This would destroy the value of station eggs. 2. Sure why not. 3. Rather than this I'd like to see pos that lets you link various modules that do this. 4. Yes please. 5. I'm neutral on this. As far as 1 is concerned, you have a point but the ability to personalize and inhabit a POS really does need to happen. Now if that means that certain things are only really practical to do in an Outpost, so be it. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 456	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:31:00 - [6] - Quote New POS won't be until spring/winter 2013 at the earliest.
Ignatius Leopardi The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation The CodeX Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:39:00 - [7] - Quote Rengerel en Distel wrote: New POS won't be until spring/winter 2013 at the earliest. That's good to know - thank you. Do you know what the changes will include?
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 456	Posted - 2012.10.15 00:46:00 - [8] - Quote Ignatius Leopardi wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: New POS won't be until spring/winter 2013 at the earliest. That's good to know - thank you. Do you know what the changes will include? I doubt even CCP knows yet.
Ignatius Leopardi The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation The CodeX Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:25:00 - [9] - Quote In which case perhaps they can be influenced by cogent and reasonably presented suggestions. Alternatively, they could look to the forums. :)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2741	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:35:00 - [10] - Quote Rengerel en Distel wrote: Ignatius Leopardi wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: New POS won't be until spring/winter 2013 at the earliest. That's good to know - thank you. Do you know what the changes will include? I doubt even CCP knows yet. The magic 8 ball hasn't decided yet "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com
Speaker for TheDead Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2012.10.15 01:54:00 - [11] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: Ignatius Leopardi wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: New POS won't be until spring/winter 2013 at the earliest. That's good to know - thank you. Do you know what the changes will include? I doubt even CCP knows yet. The magic 8 ball hasn't decided yet It's decided by Gerbil races.....
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2568	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:24:00 - [12] - Quote Ignatius Leopardi wrote: Rengerel en Distel wrote: New POS won't be until spring/winter 2013 at the earliest. That's good to know - thank you. Do you know what the changes will include? What has been seriously discussed is: 1: Modular. Able to build in different capabilities or make those capabilities better by adding more components. 2: Part of a single structure that interlocks rather than independent from each other, think Lego's. 3: Ability to personalize. Can be owned by an individual instead of a corporation. 4: Included captains quarters, possibly other area's if developed at that time. 5: No force fields. 6: Ships dock like at a station/outpost. 7: Anchor-able in many more locations in a system. 8: Able to anchor more than one in a given area, perhaps form communities or encampments of POS's in the same area. 9: Fueling to work differently, be less difficult. Easier to maintain. 10: Far, far down the line perhaps even somewhat mobile. They are just entering the concept stage, so obviously nothing has been set in stone or developed yet, and many of these idea's are very ambitious, but they seem pretty set on redoing the whole concept. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1590	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:25:00 - [13] - Quote Ignatius Leopardi wrote: In which case perhaps they can be influenced by cogent and reasonably presented suggestions. Alternatively, they could look to the forums. :) Yeah, the F&I forums, that no one goes go. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2568	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:28:00 - [14] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Ignatius Leopardi wrote: In which case perhaps they can be influenced by cogent and reasonably presented suggestions. Alternatively, they could look to the forums. :) Yeah, the F&I forums, that no one goes go. You know, I've actually been sticking my nose in there lately... since they have been discussing the details of the ship re-balance in there. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1590	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:31:00 - [15] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Ignatius Leopardi wrote: In which case perhaps they can be influenced by cogent and reasonably presented suggestions. Alternatively, they could look to the forums. :) Yeah, the F&I forums, that no one goes go. You know, I've actually been sticking my nose in there lately... since they have been discussing the details of the ship re-balance in there. Good job! Now give them your feedback in the GD forums, where it'll be easily noticed among the random trash and badposting that goes on around these parts. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 1429	Posted - 2012.10.15 05:56:00 - [16] - Quote I think 'growing' a structure to be specific to the inhabitants would be best. Let players decide if they want it to function more closely to a station or more towards a deep outpost with defenses, and of course everything in between. Both destructible in their own way. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Hav0cide Shadow Proclamation. 8	Posted - 2012.10.15 09:25:00 - [17] - Quote They spoke of letting POs have a jump drive. But to have it jump takes time. The Shadows Proclamation is recruiting new and existing explorers for nullsec exploration. Join a team and experience null safely. Join 'The Shadow Lounge-' and chat with us.
Keno Skir Vectis Covert Solutions 235	Posted - 2012.10.15 10:09:00 - [18] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Flavor crystals... CCP I found a better way to go about amarr ammo! Conflag = Minty Fresh Hav0cide wrote: They spoke of letting POs have a jump drive. But to have it jump takes time. If thats not a joke it sounds like a stupid idea If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance
Brooks Puuntai Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 869	Posted - 2012.10.15 12:09:00 - [19] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: 1. Shouldn't happen. This would destroy the value of station eggs. 2. Sure why not. 3. Rather than this I'd like to see pos that lets you link various modules that do this. 4. Yes please. 5. I'm neutral on this. #1 isn't a bad idea even if does crash eggs in the process. Switching over to destroyable stations needs to happen, however CCP has been reluctant to change normal stations over for various good reasons, so making POSs into mini-destructible stations will help that..
Hav0cide Shadow Proclamation. 8	Posted - 2012.10.15 12:21:00 - [20] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Flavor crystals... CCP I found a better way to go about amarr ammo! Conflag = Minty Fresh Hav0cide wrote: They spoke of letting POs have a jump drive. But to have it jump takes time. If thats not a joke it sounds like a stupid idea Was in the CSM notes as an idea, nothing concrete. Feel free to go find it amongst the crap. The Shadows Proclamation is recruiting new and existing explorers for nullsec exploration. Join a team and experience null safely. Join 'The Shadow Lounge-' and chat with us.
Dasola Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire 66	Posted - 2012.10.15 12:37:00 - [21] - Quote Problem with pos is its code is ancient and none in current ccp has even clue how it works. So theyre delaying fixing it untill they run out of excuses to do so. Personally i would settle for improved management interface. Current one is terible. Really terible. But then again im looking forward what they comeup when they finally get arround to fix it. [Insert something funny or smart here]
Cat Troll Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity 19	Posted - 2012.10.15 12:58:00 - [22] - Quote Can't come soon enough if you ask me, PoS's are annyoing to use. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Obax Bannon Fidelis Technologies 70	Posted - 2012.10.15 13:12:00 - [23] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Flavor crystals... CCP I found a better way to go about amarr ammo! Can i have the meth flavor please
Darod Zyree Zyree Holding 43	Posted - 2012.10.15 13:30:00 - [24] - Quote People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2571	Posted - 2012.10.15 14:52:00 - [25] - Quote Darod Zyree wrote: People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs. This is a good point. We will need a mechanic of some sort to allow their removal by force, otherwise we will quickly find all area's filled with POS's of people that are no longer active. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Idris Helion University of Caille Gallente Federation 178	Posted - 2012.10.15 16:18:00 - [26] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Darod Zyree wrote: People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs. This is a good point. We will need a mechanic of some sort to allow their removal by force, otherwise we will quickly find all area's filled with POS's of people that are no longer active. Dead sticks are already a problem in a lot of systems. Isn't there some timer that causes a control tower to go poof? I.e., if the owning corp goes inactive or the tower remains unfueled for more than 30 days or something? Or does the game just leave the dead sticks there forever, tying up that moon indefinitely?
Ignatius Leopardi The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation The CodeX Alliance 12	Posted - 2012.10.15 16:44:00 - [27] - Quote Darod Zyree wrote: People keep asking for personal POSs, I am against this unless we get to war dec individual players to remove said POSs. This is an interesting point. Clearly, personal POSs cannot be "no risk" propositions. We don't want SimEVE here. That said, if personal POSs are to become part of the game mechanic, then risk v. reward will need to balance--otherwise it is a pointless area of development.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 307	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:05:00 - [28] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: I think 'growing' a structure to be specific to the inhabitants would be best. Let players decide if they want it to function more closely to a station or more towards a deep outpost with defenses, and of course everything in between. Both destructible in their own way. I think it would be cool if communities in low/ null had to design PoS layouts to account for defense against attacks. Outer ring PoS's would have a focus on defense and guns, while the inner ones would be mining or producing. Automated gun and drone bays would be cool. Then they could have scripts for them that allow you to configure thier actions and use.
Janet Patton Brony Express 49	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:19:00 - [29] - Quote They are eventually redoing POS do be more module and something you can dock and enter. but these changes are still years from happening. Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke.
Ignatius Leopardi The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation The CodeX Alliance 12	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:55:00 - [30] - Quote Janet Patton wrote: ...but these changes are still years from happening.

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