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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.21 23:21:00 -
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the level four agent missions should have the highend minerals
taken out of their loot. even on drone missions. this will make
it where 0.0 is needed again and everyone and their mother is not
a billionair.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.21 23:56:00 -
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level 4 missions make more money than anything in the game for the
tme spent easily. and they have some of the lowest risk to
attain it. level 4 missions can easily done solo and to have a good part of the game(mining) basically not needed anymore is just
dumb because fighters dont want to mine or haul. the game needs more content not less. and this is getting out of hand when
people can do a drone missions and have half of a bs needs in
mega and zy.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 01:28:00 -
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you dont have to mine, or purchase mega and zy from people if you are getting boat loads of it from missions. hell take it out of all empire loot drops. then see the demand for miners and the need for 0.0 increase.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 01:42:00 -
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so you are saying that mission mega and zy should be able to run your factorys day and night. you even running them at all is the problem. you sit and do level 4 missions with very little risk make cash and mega and zy to partially run your factories. this just proves my point more. take mega and zy out of empire and prices will all go up and maybe soak up this inflation.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:00:00 -
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you shouldnt get any high end minerals from empire, and you should have to pay some guy who had miners on in 0.0 space. then hauled the ore to station. then hauled that stuff through the blockaids to get it to sell to you. not sit in empire and lose your ship to a npc because you couldnt handle it. 200million loss is alot more common if you make a living in 0.0 . hence the reason you pay a guy for that service.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:13:00 -
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so you are saying that sitting in a bs with no gun and only miners is less dangerous doing missions. oh yeah i forgot you can get podded now doing level four missions coming out of them carrying your high end minerals. the reason you can do the forums and what not while npc is that you are staying in one place you are not flying around. and speed in missions is the key.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:22:00 -
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for one who cares who i post with. second of all my corp does no deep space mining. we used to but there is no point in doing it anymore. there is a higher need for minerals in empire not because people are losing their ships in empire doing missions they are losing them alot more due to empire wars going on. and you insane to think that when a person can do a level four mission and get half of what is needed in mega and zy that it is a drop in the bucket you are wrong. when everyone is doing them there is no need for 0.0 . look at the map where is everyone? they are doing level four missions. dont be so ignorant to think that it is just a drop inthe bucket.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:29:00 -
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are you serious? dude have you ever flown though hed when it is camped? or hell even when it is not camped. and now you are adding people to my little mining party. now add people to the level 4 missions with you and they go alot faster also. and still not much chance unless you are in a war of getting pk right? what are implants going for these days? oh yeah level four missions are really scary. hell you ship is insured. so you lose alittle but by the time you have mined, refined, and hauled with no bounty from npc the agent missions are paying way to much.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:39:00 -
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we dont do anykind of mining, no point in it. we do level four missions. and yeah damn near everyone except the pvpers are doing these mission. in reality these missions would hurt my corp, but these missions are hurting the game and if you cannot see that then you are blind.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:45:00 -
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talk about not reading. i am not mining anymore in 0.0 . it is not worth it due to the fact that i can get pk. pk mean i lose the rare implants you speak of. there is the risk, who cares about losing a ship. like you said it is insured. i have plenty of level four experiance. last time i checked not everyone in the level four mission has to be able to use the agent. learn to read then get back to me, ok.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 02:56:00 -
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holy lord can you read? we dont mine anymore because we and get all we need from doing missions and loot. good god what part of that did you miss. the implant part was to show you the real risk of dying not the "aw shucks i just lost my fully insured raven, darn".
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 03:11:00 -
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key words in the quote you use of mine is "used to". as for losing mods. i have never lost a ship to npc and lost every mod i had on my ship. man if you have you have really bad luck. but i say once again when was the last time that npc snatched implants out of your head? as for me posting on the forum, hell dude you havent made a good point yet. maybe there should be some idoit tax on the forums for people like you with no good points, but i will save that for another post.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 03:19:00 -
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sorry, i am doing missions, playing madden, and posting against a moron. when you decide to make a point about this post please post again. until then please quit being a 4th grade spelling teacher.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 03:23:00 -
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i dont mind level four agent, i accually like them. they for sure should be in 0.4 or below. the nice perks of the faction ships, good cash, ok loot, components should all stay. it is the minerals have a problem with. get all those minerals from being produced in empire and it will solve alot of the problems people post about in these forums. alliances, deep space, pvp. all of them.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 03:40:00 -
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ruffio i am almost certain you have a learning disablity or something. the whole implant thing was about the risk of mining over level 4 missions. yes they should be moved to a lower security status to add more risk. once again dude this isnt about you carebearing and doing mission or me mining in 0.0 . this is about helping eve. to help eve there has to be a reason for carebears like myself to go back to 0.0 .
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 03:51:00 -
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might not fix the whole system that is messed up right now but it sure will help. like is said this has nothing to do with me personally getting to go to deepspace and mine again. there needs to a balance and atm level 4 agent missions have messed up the balance.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.22 21:53:00 -
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the whole point of the post was that level 4 missions should have all of there loot nerfed to where they dont get the high end ores. yeah you only get 8 drone missions out of 40 but you got loot from the bs that you kill. i know that not all of them drop good refinable loot but when you do a mission that has 10 or 12 bs you have got a good bit of loot. this in turn makes it where 0.0 space is not needed as much because with the drone missions and the other mission loot you can sustain one person easily with that amount of high end ore. deepspace miners have gotten the shaft due to these missions. take the large high end loot drops out of empire, all of them and people will have to mine, trade, barter, or steal there mega and zy. then the economy will start to right itself.
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FireAnt
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Posted - 2005.03.23 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: MachZERO blegh...
this has become another "do this.. do that.. to lvl 4!!!" discussion.
I say we let the devs create and present to us the game THEY invision and we play that game. Instead of game everyone, to include myself, has locked away in their imaginations...
Eve can't be everything to everyone... So I say let it be what it is. A game. And enjoy it.
Take it for what it is and for **** sake stop trying to change it.
Thats right the game cannot be everything to everyone but you can atleast have what 60% of the systems in the game be worth something. Everyone should be able to agree that 0.0 is useless atm. the only thing that 0.0 space has that empire doesnt have atm is the highend minerals, get them out of empire and that will create a need for 0.0 again.
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