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Ardor	Posted - 2005.03.23 12:27:00 - [31] Hardins feelings towards Deathwing are somehow similar to my feelings towards Tyrrax Thork. I see the irony of having Tyrrax Thork as an representant of the more extremist side of slave holders. This makes the rest of Star Fraction look like idiots. I also want to remind you that she ignored an official order of the Theology Council and killed a religious man who could have made an important impact on the Amarr Empire and the whole amarrian religious society. I remember the CVA helping Tetrimon during the transport of the scriptures. Nevertheless they dont seem to have a problem with Tyrrax. I dont have a problem with Deathwing. Each of us is responsible for his actions. Others watch and judge this actions and make their decisions how to react.
Fasute Sethnakte	Posted - 2005.03.23 12:48:00 - [32] I think the scientific community should have a representitive to put forth the needs of science. After all, if we cannot test new breakthrough technology on slaves, I would hate to have to resort to testing on Amarrian homeless trash. I throw my hat in. Have a nice day, citizens... ______ SPCS Board Of Advisors Member (Science)
Archbishop	Posted - 2005.03.23 13:31:00 - [33] Shira would be a fine addition and I am happy to announce her appointment. As for Deathwing I agree he has extensive knowledge of the slave trade and Amarrian Economics. Still one requirement is to be in good standing and of good repute with the Empire. As the Emperor is the Empire having someone present who would seek to assassinate the Emperor would be a distraction and inapporpriate as the SPCS follows the Emperors guidelines for the care and treatment of slaves. We're Deathwing to renounce his former act and pledge support to the Emperor an application from him would be considered. Until that time I'm afraid its not possible. While advisors can hold divergent views of the direction the Empire travels it is a different situtation to have actually participated in an act like assassination. Archbishop VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Kular	Posted - 2005.03.23 16:24:00 - [34] Let Deathwing in... if you intend to let all thesoft-minded abolishonist and even representatives from the Minmatar, there should definitly be someone from the "other" extreme to balance it He's the man for the job, and this is about slaves right, not personal feelings towards others. At least It looked that way when you first stated you'd allow enemies of Amarr to sit on the board... Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation.
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2005.03.23 16:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Archbishop Shira would be a fine addition and I am happy to announce her appointment. ... Archbishop Shira the anti-slaver sitting on the board of a slavery council. How will her supporters view that appointment? Can you really change something by being part of a body that regulates it? Hasn't she 'sold out' or became a 'puppet' of the slavers now? -- All accounts cancelled - have fun guys
Haratu	Posted - 2005.03.23 17:09:00 - [36] I would like to nominate myself... Many long flying Pod pilots will remember my article on keeping slaves, this I did before many Amarrians even considered the implications of care for slaves and in fact started all sides realising that slavery was not just a black/white situation... it was in fact a situation that stretched to multiple levels. I have also been active in my teaching that we should treat slaves as God treats us... for is that not the ultimate example of slavery? That which the Amarrian devotes to God? I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.03.23 18:01:00 - [37] Originally by: Jakk Graiseach Originally by: Archbishop Shira would be a fine addition and I am happy to announce her appointment. ... Archbishop Shira the anti-slaver sitting on the board of a slavery council. How will her supporters view that appointment? Can you really change something by being part of a body that regulates it? Hasn't she 'sold out' or became a 'puppet' of the slavers now? No more of a puppet than Tyrrax Thorkk. What are her alliance's views on slavery again? Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.03.23 18:37:00 - [38] I have no issue with the extremeism of such pilot's as Deathwing... In fact it is much closer to my own views than such types as Dau or Shira... or even Haratu. But one does not attempt to assassinate the Viceroy of God. Should one of Deathwings corpmates or allies, not involved in the attempt on Doriam II's life wish to ask for a spot on the Board I will support that. But I while I can support the nomination of someone who disagrees on the emperor's position, what I cannot do is support someone who has actually attacked our Emperor. So If one of Deathwing's supporters, or perhaps Deathwing himself would nominate another person of similar mind who doesnt have the disqualifying feature of being guilty of an attempted regicide Im sure we can work something out. The killing of the Tetrimon leader was irrelevant as far as Im concerned. What was important was the books that did make it to the Theology Council. The Grandmaster... was at best unimportant, at worst a heretic. His Killers should have held their fire... but it is not the affront to God that attacking the Emperor is. So I have no qualms about her. As for the liberals, well its not a democratic system here. So I dont really care much about ratios. I trust Archbishop to take the diamonds from the rough and weed out the ludicrious ideas from the good regardless of the side said arguments come from. So what do we have currently. 2 extreme liberals. Dau and Shira 1 liberal Haratu Im not sure where Ixanius stands, I believe that Jim would qualify as a middle of the road type. So assume two centrists. Then you have Archbishop who is a slightly conservative priest. And Tyrrax who is an definite conservative. So I suggest adding one more conservative, Deathwing or one of his supporters would work well for that spot, assuming the attempted regicide issue can be worked out. Also a Khanid and a Sarumite would be a good idea if either faction is willing to put up a nominee willing to work with the Board despite Tyrrax's existance on it. Last I would suggest a member of the loyal nobility. To that effect I nominate His Lord the Grand Inquisitor Gaius Kador. If he refuses I would ask to take a spot on the council myself, but he would be the better man for the job. Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II!
Shira d'Radonis	Posted - 2005.03.23 19:45:00 - [39] Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 23/03/2005 19:54:06 Originally by: Jakk Graiseach Originally by: Archbishop Shira would be a fine addition and I am happy to announce her appointment. ... Archbishop Shira the anti-slaver sitting on the board of a slavery council. How will her supporters view that appointment? Can you really change something by being part of a body that regulates it? Hasn't she 'sold out' or became a 'puppet' of the slavers now? At the end of the day, Jakk, my Matari allies know that my supporters must be Amarrian for me to have any impact on the Empire. And to do that, I must have their trust. I think that this organization, while not sufficient enough, is a step in the right direction. So long as slavery continues, I want to at least make sure that the slaves are well-treated. But that does not mean that I will not continue to push for a peaceful emancipation of the slaves. But a suggestion if I may, to ease the concerned: How about we make the minutes of board meetings a matter of public record? ----------------------------------------------- ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2005.03.23 22:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Rodj Blake No more of a puppet than Tyrrax Thorkk. What are her alliance's views on slavery again? Star Fraction has no view on slavery. Various members (including Tyrrax) have views on slavery, but the alliance holds no official position on the practice. We are primarily concerned with freespace, but that is a discussion for another place. There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense

Ardor	Posted - 2005.03.23 23:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri The killing of the Tetrimon leader was irrelevant as far as Im concerned. What was important was the books that did make it to the Theology Council. The Grandmaster... was at best unimportant, at worst a heretic. If Grandmaster Elata Ardo was important or not important is irrelevant. - He was a pure blooded Amarrian. - He fought against the Minmatar helping your Emperor Heideran. - The Theology Council made an official order not to hunt Tetrimon. At best you are working side by side with a murderer, at worst... I dont want to hijack your thread. The discussion about Terimon is off topic in this place. Good luck to the SPCS.
Icomeinpeace	Posted - 2005.03.24 00:05:00 - [42] Edited by: Icomeinpeace on 24/03/2005 00:10:40 You need a strong supporter of Sarum on this board. You need deathwing. Will you have a Board of advisor's that will pamper the slaves until they begin to get "their own ideas"?At that point I can assure you that this will bring upon us, the downfall of slavery. Does the Director, and the SPCS want to be held responsible for this possible senario? You need someone on this board with EXTENSIVE knowledge on handling mass amounts of slaves.I feel few of these people already nominated understand the complications of managing thousands of slaves. Personal agendas aside, and for the future of slavery in our Empire,we need Deathwing to lead this board and add the missing iron fist that is needed. Without Deathwing, I forsee the fall of slavery which would ultimately lead to a great minmatar rebellion spelling disaster for all of Amarr, and our history. It would be foolish to not have deathwing nominated, and this blunder would be recorded in our history till the end of time, for all to see. I leave you now, in peace.
Archbishop	Posted - 2005.03.24 00:26:00 - [43] Quote: "Will you have a Board of advisor's that will pamper the slaves until they begin to get "their own ideas"?At that point I can assure you that this will bring upon us, the downfall of slavery." I can assure you this will NOT happen while I am SPCS Director. The slave trade is a living breathing legal part of the Amarrian Empire ordained by God and directed by the Emperor. The order of the Emperor is that slaves be treated humanely. That is the ONLY order. The SPCS will recommend guidelines for the care and handling of slaves. These are guidelines but any slaver following them will be known to be humane and caring. I fear too many slave holders look at the beasts as purely raw labor. One duty that some slavers ignore is the duty of enlightenment. Our sacred duty calls on us to bring these heathens closer to God. I know its a difficult and seemingly impossible task given what we have to work with but we must try. I would never presume to order people to follow particular guidelines rather I would seek to enact guidelines which are universally recognized as fair and humane. Such guidelines would create a slave society where slaves are encouraged to reach enlightenment and encouraged to work their hardest for the Empire. In the end only a slaves works can be measured. Still studies have shown happy slaves are more productive then those treated poorly. In the long run this increases the odds of enlightenment as well as increasing slave production capabilities. Archbishop VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Archbishop	Posted - 2005.03.24 00:33:00 - [44] SPCS BOARD OF ADVISORS ANNOUNCED Archbishop (SPCS Director) Jim Hawkins (Advisor) Tyrrax Thork (Advisor) Ixianus (Advisor) Shira d'Radonis (Advisor) Fasute Sethnakte (Advisor) Haratu (Advisor) The final SPCS Board has been announced. With the addition of Fastue Sethnakte (Science) and Haratu (Slave Expert) we have achieved a fully rounded and diverse body of slavery experts. Covering all sections of the slavery spectrum this diverse board will be responsible for formulating policy and recommendations for slave care and treatment. In a few days each member will be contacted with a secure communications frequency (Private SPCS Forum) where we can discuss the upcoming SPCS agenda. Nomination are no longer being accepted. Thank you to all for your assistance in creating this diverse board of slavery experts. Archbishop SPCS Director VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Fasute Sethnakte	Posted - 2005.03.24 17:58:00 - [45] Edited by: Fasute Sethnakte on 24/03/2005 17:59:18 Originally by: Archbishop With the addition of Fastue Sethnakte (Science) and Haratu (Slave Expert) we have achieved a fully rounded and diverse body of slavery experts. I wish to thank Archbishop and PIE for this opportunity for the scientific community to have a say in the treatment and limits to what we can do with the slaves to futher and better the Amarrian, and sub-serviant Minmatar, quality of life. As for those who are clamoring for a Sarumite to have a position on the board... *chuckle* Well, I am a representitive of Sabaoth Incorporated... Have a fruitful day, citizens... ______ SPCS Board Of Advisors Member (Science)
Ixianus	Posted - 2005.03.25 03:28:00 - [46] Edited by: Ixianus on 25/03/2005 03:33:42 I apologize for my late responce. I am most honored to be selected as a member of this prestigious board and hope to, through my own ideologies, help to spread the idea that is service to the Amarr Empire. I would also like to promote the healthy reformation of current slave holding policies to help ensure that this tradition and indeed mission of Amarr is preserved for many many comming generations.
Haratu	Posted - 2005.03.25 04:00:00 - [47] Thank you, with Gods help I will become a useful tool in helping make sure such a society is kept straight in the fight against Slave welfare throughout the Empire. With the pressure from other nations we must make sure we set a good example with our slaves so that God is shown as he truly is, a caring and righteous person. My slaves wish to send their thanks a well, they look forward to helping me in understanding of the slave situation so that their life can be better improved to produce better efficiency and a happier slave. Haratu, CEO, Shinie Stuff Salvagers I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century.
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2005.03.25 17:01:00 - [48] I withdraw my support of the SPCS. ----------------------------------------------


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