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Lisa Sviernyh School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.10.15 16:55:00 - [1] - Quote Greetings, I would like to build a battleship for solo/small gang PvP. The one who will be able to get all those small Trashers and the big ships as well. Budget doesn't matter, ship faction too. Thanks for help. Best regards, Lisa
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 195	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:08:00 - [2] - Quote Get a Machariel, use the cookiecutter fit. "Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise."-á
Lisa Sviernyh School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:09:00 - [3] - Quote My corp is currently at war with people who use mainly Megathrons and those little Trashers and Merlins which are so hard to hit by BSps.
Goldensaver Vorbild Industries Inc. State Section 9 30	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:18:00 - [4] - Quote Curious here, how much PvP experience do you have?
Alara IonStorm 3289	Posted - 2012.10.15 17:31:00 - [5] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: My corp is currently at war with people who use mainly Megathrons and those little Trashers and Merlins which are so hard to hit by BSps. You could try DDA fit Ion Dominix's for station fights if you have T2 Heavies. They can bring the DPS of a Mega and switch to bonused / Dmg Modded Hammers and Warriors for smaller ships for cheaper cost. Utility in fitting means you can use Shield Ganks, Armor Drone Standard or 4-5 Heavy Neut Fits. Ships that double tracking disrupt the Mega's are a real threat as well like simple Arbitrators that can't be Thrasher Alpha'd and respond with bonused drones. Throwing newer players in Blackbirds might not be such a bad idea with Gal, Gal, Min, Min, Cal Jammer setups since you are unlikely to run into much high SS Amarr ships in a High War. Getting people into who would be little DPS or you don't consider strong enough to participate into TD and Jam Ships can throw the field into your favor or at least push them off and for 10-20mil them popping isn't a big deal.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 564	Posted - 2012.10.15 18:04:00 - [6] - Quote dominix, high dps and solid tank for the big stuff, can release many flights of any sized drone for those pesky tacklers. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
Goldensaver Vorbild Industries Inc. State Section 9 30	Posted - 2012.10.15 23:06:00 - [7] - Quote Honestly, assuming you have sufficient support skills, I'm actually in favor of the Talos, with sufficient support. It has a plethora of things that make it effective against smaller ships. It uses Blasters, which are the fastest tracking close in weapon system, it has a drone bay, giving it a flight of light drones for added effectiveness against smaller ships. It has sufficient mid slots, allowing important goodies, such as webs, painters, scram, tracking computers, etc. It's more maneuverable then Battleships, even if armour tanked, allowing you to slingshot smaller ships better then a Battleship, and can do a small armour buffer, giving it some survivability. You can kite Battleships in your optimal, or get in and orbit if they're using ranged guns. It is also a lot cheaper. However, if you insist on using a Battleship, I've seen 'Pests, Phoons, Machariels, Dominixes, and sometimes even 'Throns used decently for this. The 'Pests and Phoons have spare highs for neuts, which devastate the smaller ships by deactivating MWD's, points, and the sort leaving them slow moving sitting ducks for volley firing, while being able to fit decent tanks. You should also be faster, allowing some kiting action against their BS's. The Machs... yeah, just Machs. Domi's for the reasons above, and 'Throns because they have good damage, a good drone bay for anti-thrasher work, though be prepared to replace drones, and good tracking on their guns. With a MWD running, you might even be able to track them decently well. And they're good against other BS's.
Arch Stanton's Neighbour Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc 22	Posted - 2012.10.16 01:55:00 - [8] - Quote Vindicator. It has 90% webs. 2 x fed navy webs and any ship withing 18km will be brought to a stand still waiting to receive facemelting volleys of antimatter.
Goldensaver Vorbild Industries Inc. State Section 9 30	Posted - 2012.10.16 02:39:00 - [9] - Quote That reminds me, getting into faction BS's, Bhaalgorn is pretty good too. Gets a web range bonus and bonused neuts.
Zyella Stormborn Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis 144	Posted - 2012.10.16 02:57:00 - [10] - Quote Head into the field in 4 Curses, and 10 Arbitrators. Just chuckle and have fun. ;)
Sith1s Spectre Sky Fighters Talocan United 19	Posted - 2012.10.16 04:20:00 - [11] - Quote For cheapness and versatility - nothing beats the 1800 DPS shield fit domi, just keep in mind it's not a solo boat Or, fit it with neuts and armor tank it - nasty solo boat that way May you be one with Bob
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 125	Posted - 2012.10.16 04:38:00 - [12] - Quote Step one: Get ANY ship Step two: Gimp it HORRIBLY to fit an XLasb to it Step three: Enjoy being massively OP
Mike Whiite Keystone Industrial 73	Posted - 2012.10.16 07:56:00 - [13] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: My corp is currently at war with people who use mainly Megathrons and those little Trashers and Merlins which are so hard to hit by BSps. Smart Bombs anyone
Danny John-Peter The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 144	Posted - 2012.10.16 09:11:00 - [14] - Quote My two favourite PVP Bs are the Pest and the Maelstrom, the Maelstrom I have been particularly using of late in low sec, very strong tank, good DPS and tackle. [Maelstrom, XLASB Maelstrom Solo] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Internal Force Field Array I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II 800mm Repeating Artillery II Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II Warrior II Hornet EC-300 Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/63324-XLASB-Maelstrom-Solo.html#ixzz29S245TUe As for the pest, I have a couple of fits, but my favourite is the "Giant Hurricane" fitting; [Tempest, Nano Pest 1 Nano] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Shadow Serpentis 100MN MicroWarpdrive Warp Disruptor II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 Hammerhead II x5 There are of course many other options, buffer/gank geddons are a good option, Megas the same story, however if your looking to deal small ships as well, the dual neuts on the Pest make it a very strong option, it also has suprising GTFO abiltiy for a BS, if your looking to upgrade from that, take said fit, slap it on a Fleet Pest, Fit an extra nano and faction the point. Of course the Mach is the ultimate thing, but thats pretty high end, I run a Mach (When I have the Balls to undock) like this. [Machariel, ASB] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Nanofiber Structure Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Gist A-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L True Sansha Heavy Energy Neutralizer Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior II x5 Awesome GTFO ability, more manueverable than a Hurricane, faster too.
Goldensaver Vorbild Industries Inc. State Section 9 30	Posted - 2012.10.16 14:27:00 - [15] - Quote Mike Whiite wrote: Lisa Sviernyh wrote: My corp is currently at war with people who use mainly Megathrons and those little Trashers and Merlins which are so hard to hit by BSps. Smart Bombs anyone Sounds like he's in high-sec. Smartbombs are bad in high-sec. Concord does mean things to people who use them, all because of that jerkwad that cloaked up and humped your side so you couldn't see him setting you up for concording.
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 296	Posted - 2012.10.16 15:30:00 - [16] - Quote Dominix is great, you can fit drones to engage any target size and can easily support heavy neuts, which are really bs greatest weapon against smaller stuff.
Lisa Sviernyh School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.10.16 21:38:00 - [17] - Quote I know that my enemies are mainly using Arbitrators, Thrashers and Hawks. They also have a Megathron. I am thinking about Dominix but this is so ugly. Probably the ugliest one in the universe, isn't it? Thanks for all the responses. I would be glad if you could share some more knowledge with me.
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 300	Posted - 2012.10.16 21:43:00 - [18] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: I know that my enemies are mainly using Arbitrators, Thrashers and Hawks. They also have a Megathron. I am thinking about Dominix but this is so ugly. Probably the ugliest one in the universe, isn't it? Thanks for all the responses. I would be glad if you could share some more knowledge with me. Ugly ships are always the best, just look at typhoon.
Lisa Sviernyh School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.10.16 21:45:00 - [19] - Quote Doddy wrote: Lisa Sviernyh wrote: I know that my enemies are mainly using Arbitrators, Thrashers and Hawks. They also have a Megathron. I am thinking about Dominix but this is so ugly. Probably the ugliest one in the universe, isn't it? Thanks for all the responses. I would be glad if you could share some more knowledge with me. Ugly ships are always the best, just look at typhoon. And what's Typhoon good for?
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 130	Posted - 2012.10.16 21:47:00 - [20] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: I know that my enemies are mainly using Arbitrators, Thrashers and Hawks. They also have a Megathron. I am thinking about Dominix but this is so ugly. Probably the ugliest one in the universe, isn't it? Thanks for all the responses. I would be glad if you could share some more knowledge with me. GTFO Don't dis the mighty battle potatoe.
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 301	Posted - 2012.10.16 22:01:00 - [21] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: Doddy wrote: Lisa Sviernyh wrote: I know that my enemies are mainly using Arbitrators, Thrashers and Hawks. They also have a Megathron. I am thinking about Dominix but this is so ugly. Probably the ugliest one in the universe, isn't it? Thanks for all the responses. I would be glad if you could share some more knowledge with me. Ugly ships are always the best, just look at typhoon. And what's Typhoon good for? Anything you want
Zyella Stormborn Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis 145	Posted - 2012.10.16 22:18:00 - [22] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: I know that my enemies are mainly using Arbitrators, Thrashers and Hawks. They also have a Megathron. I am thinking about Dominix but this is so ugly. Probably the ugliest one in the universe, isn't it? Thanks for all the responses. I would be glad if you could share some more knowledge with me. About 2 months ago, some friends of mine invited me to go on a 'Drone Roam' with them. They all had drone boats, (Ishtar, Curse, Pilgrim, Arbitrator, Domi), although the majority was Arbitrators, with Curses pulling in second. We did some spider tanking (each ship with 1x repper for healing others), although not everyone had them. There were a grand total of 14 of us, and to be honest, it was one of the most fun roams I have ever done. The corp we had the war deck with was active, so we encountered several fights. Between the drone swarm, the webs, the neuts, the half-assed group healing, and the TD's, we did so much better than I expected to. There were too many drones for them to easily counter with frigates, we were in high sec for most of it, so they did not risk using smart bombs, and in low sec we did not encounter any with SB's. We had one guy in a Domi, with all kinds of tank on him that we used as our nucleus and FC, 2 in Ishtars (they switched to arbitrators after they lost a couple), 4 in Curses, 2 Pilgrim, and I think 6 in Arbitrators at the end. We managed to take down 2 BS, I have no idea how many frigates, AF's, etc, a few BC's, 1 Vargur (got lucky, someone scanned him running missions), several Arbitrators, and a few other assorted. We lost 1 Domi, 4 Ishtar, 2 Curse, and I don't know how many Arbies (I lost 3 myself, and 1 of the Curses). It was a very unconventional little week of fights, but fun as all hell. They started it, but I personally feel we 'won' due to the balance of win / loss (to be fair though, they did manage to take down one of our POS's, which was the initial reason for the war deck I believe). Anyway, just be sure to go in ships that are not too expensive for your budget, work as a team, and have fun with it. Win or lose its fun, and what a good part of the game is about. ~Zyella P.S.: Seeing swarms of 50+ drones swooping in on some poor webbed / pointed victim is one of the most enjoyable things in the world to watch (unless they are coming your way of course). Be sure to occasionally 'look at' your target to see it happen. ... And don't be drinking when you do. I spit my drink across my keyboard laughing a couple of times. ;(
Alara IonStorm 3300	Posted - 2012.10.17 01:32:00 - [23] - Quote Lisa Sviernyh wrote: And what's Typhoon good for? Typhoons are a jack of all trades BS. Fast, mostly armor, has a 5/5 turret / missile hardpoint layout with bonuses to both missiles and guns, large drone bay to accommodate heavy drones + smaller flights, when fit with one weapon type it has 3 high utility slots giving it considerable neut power. They are commonly fit with 5 Torpedo Launchers, 3 Neuts and Heavy Drones for high dmg.
Tarchus Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 14	Posted - 2012.10.18 06:14:00 - [24] - Quote The uglier the ship, the better it tanks. The prettier the ship, the harder it shoots.
Gummi75 Lamb Federation Navy Against ALL Authorities 0	Posted - 2012.10.19 07:00:00 - [25] - Quote if your deling with mix of bs and friggs and wana fight in bs i would fit target painters and use drones on painted friggs and guns on other bs
Romvex Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 86	Posted - 2012.10.20 10:36:00 - [26] - Quote dual-rep blaster vindi. that is all Are you positively sure that beyond any reasonable doubt that you are not upset, brother?
Ferahgo Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. 4	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:45:00 - [27] - Quote Is this a newb corp war? Arbitrators, thrashers hawks oh my! To kill those three...anything? Lol. Neut domi is overkill. And this megathron they seem to have? Its buffer tank with blasters. Orbit it at 17 or so km with any faster ship. Shoot til dead, kill drones if needed. Have to fight them all together? Get any dps vessel of your choosing and find two friends in two basilisk or guardian. Ta-da
Kasken War Trident Trifectas Syndicate 3	Posted - 2012.10.20 13:27:00 - [28] - Quote If budget truly doesn't matter to you, then you should know how to fit a ship without coming to forums to ask for a basic ship like a BS for pvp. Id strongly urge you to start in cheaper ships, or at least normal non factioned ones, eve if you have like 385093 trillion isk, learning how to pvp without dropping billions into a ship is kinda helpful... not even cause of the lossmails but for actually having a clue.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2012.10.22 07:49:00 - [29] - Quote Kasken wrote: If budget truly doesn't matter to you, then you should know how to fit a ship without coming to forums to ask for a basic ship like a BS for pvp. Id strongly urge you to start in cheaper ships, or at least normal non factioned ones, eve if you have like 385093 trillion isk, learning how to pvp without dropping billions into a ship is kinda helpful... not even cause of the lossmails but for actually having a clue. I'd add that your shiny lossmails are pretty encouraging for your opponents, so that's another reason to avoid expencive ships at first.

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