When dealing with balance issues, I'd rather ccp buffed ships and mods, rather than nerfed them. For example, buffing other ships to match the drake and hurricane, rather than nerfing those ships, or buffing other ammo and tech to match missile advantage, rather than just nerfing missiles.

It would enhance immersion, and provide a feeling of tech advancement. For example, due to the Hurricane's success, other manufacturer's finally manage to reverse engineer and duplicate its power grid layout. It would also provide a better impression of the game going forward, rather than back. Also, getting better ships for free is always a good feeling, and might be better received than nerfing popular ships.

"power creep"

When dealing with balance issues, I'd rather ccp buffed ships and mods, rather than nerfed them. .

When dealing with balance issues, I'd rather ccp buffed ships and mods, rather than nerfed them. For example, buffing other ships to match the drake and hurricane, rather than nerfing those ships, or buffing other ammo and tech to match missile advantage, rather than just nerfing missiles.

It would enhance immersion, and provide a feeling of tech advancement. For example, due to the Hurricane's success, other manufacturer's finally manage to reverse engineer and duplicate its power grid layout. It would also provide a better impression of the game going forward, rather than back. Also, getting better ships for free is always a good feeling, and might be better received than nerfing popular ships.

Nerf HML missiles.

...and after this the most important part for me, because this was my first goal: Battleships revamping! yey

Yeah, cause, like, they are totally overpowered. Like, totally.

Another unnecessary nerf to missiles, for whatever reason. For player driven, CCP likes to break things on the car.

Yeah... that's why nobody ever uses them.

When dealing with balance issues, I'd rather ccp buffed ships and mods, rather than nerfed them. For example, buffing other ships to match the drake and hurricane, rather than nerfing those ships, or buffing other ammo and tech to match missile advantage, rather than just nerfing missiles.

^ Sadly only most players fly OP drakes and canes around, not all.

So that scenario probably won't happen, but good luck.

Oh yeah... "power creep" is something best avoided.

But the nerfing doesn't only effect drakes, it effects 80% of a races ships whether they were "overpowered" or not, mostly not. Next they should nerf the Gallente out of existence me thinks, that'll be a solid next "iteration". There will always be something overpowered, god help that race, us all.

Nerf HML missiles.

They already have done that, mostly why I don't care what happens to your drakes and canes.

^ I only see that when pvp is involved, and it is as bad as you say it is.

With you complaining about medium guns getting nerfed, that is what you are probably complaining about. The pvp side of it. But with pvp being borked, don't know what to say to you.

Don't worry, after the nerf, we can start our "nerf them now" campaign. After that is done, they can start their petitions to nerf us back. Like the old UO forums, the fighting can just rage, flame, and grow with calls for nerfs until the forums are simply shut down while the player-base is at each others throats. Meanwhile other broken things remain broken, like FW and defenders.

You mean for missiles? I have minimal missile skills, hardly touch them. I use the same weapons as Gallante, hybrids, some various racial ships, this character being 2m SP and counting then going into fw soon, around winter patch. A second alt doing the same, and with no missile skills either. I just don't want to see any guns or missiles nerfed, but just individual ship balancing regarding all ships.

Yeah, cause, like, they are totally overpowered. Like, totally.

Another unnecessary nerf to missiles, for whatever reason. For player driven, CCP likes to break things on the car.

But the nerfing doesn't only effect drakes, it effects 80% of a races ships whether they were "overpowered" or not, mostly not.

Yeah, meant missiles.

With the skills you are training for, I highly doubt you have to worry about being nerfed. Most likely you will just end up seeing why other ships get nerfed.

I'm speaking of general cruiser class there arounds, not the entire fleet of course.

So still nowhere near the 80% you want it to be.

Face it: Caldari is a missile/hybrid race. One weapon system will never in any way affect significantly more than 50% of the ships of a given size, and there are four sizes. In addition, every ship that is affected will have a second choice in weapons. In fact, the fact that a ship that is meant to be able to fit all four caldari weapon systems for its size is only ever fitted with one of them tells you a lot about why HMLs are on the balancing chopping-block.

wtf? lol.

ah bs. If you play this game rather than forum troll, the ships that bonus missiles don't bonus hybrid at the same time.

There is no reason to nerf an entire line of weapons to adjust one or two ships.

It don't matter if it's 30%, 50% or 80%, not when one ship is the supposed offender.

When dealing with balance issues, I'd rather ccp buffed ships and mods, rather than nerfed them. For example, buffing other ships to match the drake and hurricane, rather than nerfing those ships, or buffing other ammo and tech to match missile advantage, rather than just nerfing missiles.

It would enhance immersion, and provide a feeling of tech advancement. For example, due to the Hurricane's success, other manufacturer's finally manage to reverse engineer and duplicate its power grid layout. It would also provide a better impression of the game going forward, rather than back. Also, getting better ships for free is always a good feeling, and might be better received than nerfing popular ships.

No need to feed the troll, Ranger 1

Calling me a troll makes it easier to ignore an obvious fact...it's less a balance and more a slap in the face to Drake and Tengu pilots.

When dealing with balance issues, I'd rather ccp buffed ships and mods, rather than nerfed them. For example, buffing other ships to match the drake and hurricane, rather than nerfing those ships, or buffing other ammo and tech to match missile advantage, rather than just nerfing missiles.

It would enhance immersion, and provide a feeling of tech advancement. For example, due to the Hurricane's success, other manufacturer's finally manage to reverse engineer and duplicate its power grid layout. It would also provide a better impression of the game going forward, rather than back. Also, getting better ships for free is always a good feeling, and might be better received than nerfing popular ships.

Calling me a troll makes it easier to ignore an obvious fact...it's less a balance and more a slap in the face to Drake and Tengu pilots. But whatever, don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.

I've made this exact argument that the reason drakes are used so often is because other races (minus the Hurricane) lack the ships in the same class to compete.

It's quite simple:

Buff the Harbi with more CPU and better cap efficiency.

Buff the myrm so it has more drone bandwith and can field 5 heavies or sentrys.

500 man drake fleet says hello.