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Vladimir Dorgiers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:59:00 -
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I just want to write you new players a warning, because you might get a mail, like I did, saying how friendly this "great" new cooperation is for new players, and how you ought to join and what great opportunities they have etc.
Well it's a damn lie!
Not only will you get punished for their dumb mistakes, which then gets you kicked out of your alliance, but they also kick you from the corporation in the amazing witch hunt that untimely follows. (this is the second time this has happened in this alliance from what I understand)
Apparently some new person they let in killed ratters, and Imperial Guardians got kicked from the alliance, and a lot of people died as a result of that. I luckily got myself out using a travel fit frigate, and then I was kicked the NEXT day without any explanation as to why.
So all of my meager possessions are now trapped in 0.0 and I have no way back.
Nice.
So I get to suffer for the incompetence of the corporation when I was doing everything that was asked for me. I was on the forums, on TS, in ratting fleets, training for the tackle ships they wanted.
SO NEWBIES IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO YOU. STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM IMPERIAL GUARDIANS! |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
318
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:02:00 -
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Add to this as there is always that outside possibility a real new player might show up.
Look at alliance history. If it's longer than your arm they are crooked. |
Jim Era
4975
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:02:00 -
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lol wat?
caodc? |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
726
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:03:00 -
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who
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me.
Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Nerf it cause I can't fly it.
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
1047
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:03:00 -
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Hhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahhaha
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE
Initiative Mercenaries
168
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:03:00 -
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Sounds like a lot of fun. Wish I'd been there to enjoy the drama. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
213
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:04:00 -
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How did the witchhunt go exactly? Did they use the Monty Python method to determine if the player was a witch? Did some little girls claim to be posessed by the 'witch', at which time they all burned that player at the stake or drown them or hung them? These are the questions that need to be asked.
Also, Bad Corps/alliances are bad. Good ones dont go on witch hunts and learn from their mistakes.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
1047
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:05:00 -
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PS:
Were you the one flying around in blue space 2 regions away with a vigil?
GF GF
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Leon en Marland
Blue-Fire
Tribal Band
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:06:00 -
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Quote:Look at alliance history. If it's longer than your arm they are crooked.
What are war dec shields?
But seriously, did you come to the forums to whine?
Oh wait.. these are the EVE forums, carry on then. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
318
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:11:00 -
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Leon en Marland wrote:Quote:Look at alliance history. If it's longer than your arm they are crooked. What are war dec shields? But seriously, did you come to the forums to whine? Oh wait.. these are the EVE forums, carry on then.
That cleared everything up.
New players to EVE can go forward with a crisp understanding of the game. |
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Scientessa
Killing is Business
Tribal Band
5
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:14:00 -
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-1
OP is a tard :D |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1800
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:15:00 -
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Welcome to EVE.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:16:00 -
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I remember this thread.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior.
"You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
390
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:18:00 -
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Vladimir Dorgiers wrote:
Apparently some new person they let in killed ratters, and Imperial Guardians got kicked from the alliance, and a lot of people died as a result of that. I luckily got myself out using a travel fit frigate, and then I was kicked the NEXT day without any explanation as to why.
'ey?
wox??
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
215
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:39:00 -
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meta in EVE.
It's as if I can post twice in the same thread with differing points of view.
I can feel bad for the noobs who got carpet bombed in the purge. I have to feel bad for the corp being destroyed by asshats too though. As should you OP. Unless you are said asshat and then you won't because you will have justified it somehow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
898
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:06:00 -
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May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. |
Ryhss
Short Bus Riders Group
20
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:09:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:How did the witchhunt go exactly? Did they use the Monty Python method to determine if the player was a witch? Did some little girls claim to be posessed by the 'witch', at which time they all burned that player at the stake or drown them or hung them? These are the questions that need to be asked.
Also, Bad Corps/alliances are bad. Good ones dont go on witch hunts and learn from their mistakes.
Gawain"What else floats?"
Villager "Churches!"
Villager "Very small rocks!"
Villager "Lead!"
Arthur "A DUCK" |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:11:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here.
I heard they'll even move your assets for you, so you won't have any logistical problems at all
It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways:
He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby
Li3 Federation
215
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Posted - 2012.10.17 00:33:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:
Gawain"What else floats?"
Villager "Churches!"
Villager "Very small rocks!"
Villager "Lead!"
Arthur "A DUCK"
She turned me into a newt!
But I got better...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Vladimir Dorgiers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:23:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:PS:
Were you the one flying around in blue space 2 regions away with a vigil?
GF GF
That's why I was kicked??
Oh wow.
So Alliance chat talks about how good it would be to travel in, I think hmm, it IS a good idea, then die in it, and am booted. Oh wow.
Well whatever. Looks like "this is EVE"... better get used to it.
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Bane Necran
532
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:25:00 -
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Vladimir Dorgiers wrote:Well whatever. Looks like "this is EVE"... better get used to it.
Nah, it's just 0.0,
Come to hisec where the cool kids hang out.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant
Tribal Band
160
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:30:00 -
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Awoxers tend to ruin everything don't they?
I Endorse this Product and/or Service
Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE |
Amy Avery
Infinite Covenant
Tribal Band
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 02:15:00 -
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INCOV BEST COV
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DreamTrooperX
O C C U P Y
Test Friends Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2012.10.17 03:13:00 -
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I believe if you stayed long enough, you'd have realized the reason for the kicking. Lowering recruitment security is the consequence of running a newb friendly corporation. **** happens. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1461
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Posted - 2012.10.17 05:20:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here.
OP you need a secure and professional 0.0 alliance, convo me ingame to get your application started today.
primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Naomi Zirud
Null Sec PvP and Mining Academy
3
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Posted - 2012.10.17 05:38:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. OP you need a secure and professional 0.0 alliance, convo me ingame to get your application started today.
^This |
Collin Dow
O C C U P Y
Test Friends Please Ignore
39
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Posted - 2012.10.17 06:05:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. OP you need a secure and professional 0.0 alliance, convo me ingame to get your application started today.
Confirming this is what OP needs.
The Gallente shall rise again!
The Glorious Revolution lives on in my heart. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Imperial Guardians
793
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Posted - 2012.10.17 07:03:00 -
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OP made me  so much |
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
51
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Posted - 2012.10.17 07:35:00 -
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lolz, I got out ages ago when the tax rate went up and they moved to null :)
I'm still happily carebearing away in hisec :P |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Tribal Holdings
382
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Posted - 2012.10.17 07:44:00 -
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Confirming IG is so **** we had to boot them..
Erm, I mean awoxers.
Rabble Rabble Rabble.
On a serious note, if the OP is serious about having assets stuck, he should send me an in game mail and I will see about getting it out for him.
And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
186
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Posted - 2012.10.17 08:14:00 -
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Doubt new players even come to the forums, so they'll always have to learn the "EvE is full of dicks" lesson the hard way.
You should just travel back to the region in a stealth ship at a later date, and slap everything on the market remotely. Trusting someone to move it for you is just inviting even more doom! |
Vladimir Dorgiers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:34:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. OP you need a secure and professional 0.0 alliance, convo me ingame to get your application started today.
ha... had to look you guys up. Something Awful. I think I remember that being funny. It's been like a decade since I was in college though, so who knows. Memory gets fuzzy with old age.
Goonwaffe! So edgy. Sounds like I'd get the chance to fly with a bunch of self-righteous aging dorks who no doubt grief in hilarious and interesting way XDDDddd.
No thanks.
I'll go back to missioning in high sec until I get bored and quit.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
834
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:49:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. I heard they'll even move your assets for you, so you won't have any logistical problems at all
This is a known scam that usually works well on players trying to get in (spai) and showing off. Noobs seem to get free ships/skill books and even isk from some players (told by some newbie friend over there)
Anyway, when you get to some alliance in null and you're willing to move all your stuff over there before you even know how things will evolve you're dumb and deserve to loose it. Never do this by any circumstance and keep your stuff at least in closest NPC station just in case.
Pick something you can easily afford to loose and restart EVERYTHING from the scratch, eventually buy a couple fleet doctrine ships "in situ" you don't risk that much. Learn to know people, respect their habits and earn their respect, then move yer crap.
brb |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
834
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:52:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Doubt new players even come to the forums, so they'll always have to learn the "EvE is full of dicks" lesson the hard way.
You should just travel back to the region in a stealth ship at a later date, and slap everything on the market remotely. Trusting someone to move it for you is just inviting even more doom!
Courrier contracts.
brb |
Vladimir Dorgiers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:07:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. I heard they'll even move your assets for you, so you won't have any logistical problems at all This is a known scam that usually works well on players trying to get in (spai) and showing off. Noobs seem to get free ships/skill books and even isk from some players (told by some newbie friend over there) Anyway, when you get to some alliance in null and you're willing to move all your stuff over there before you even know how things will evolve you're dumb and deserve to loose it. Never do this by any circumstance and keep your stuff at least in closest NPC station just in case. Pick something you can easily afford to loose and restart EVERYTHING from the scratch, eventually buy a couple fleet doctrine ships "in situ" you don't risk that much. Learn to know people, respect their habits and earn their respect, then move yer crap.
Figures.
That Tribal Band person was probably trying to do the same thing to me.
Sigh.
They literally make no sense. |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Tribal Holdings
382
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Posted - 2012.10.17 22:24:00 -
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Actually as an official alliance diplomat (look at our alliance description) I am not permitted to scam :( If you really want your stuff out, create a courier contract to parses, or contact me in game.
And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
Cedas Lamua
Lucid Dreamers
Tribal Band
0
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:37:00 -
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You prolly deserved what happened to you when you do what you did and expect no reaction?
Welcome to Eve. get used it if not get out and if you get out can I have your stuff?  |
Vladimir Dorgiers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.10.18 13:00:00 -
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Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Actually as an official alliance diplomat (look at our alliance description) I am not permitted to scam :( If you really want your stuff out, create a courier contract to parses, or contact me in game.
Yea I am ******* buy that.
Just like the email that said newbie friendly? Get stuffed scammer.
And I'd rather trash it then let any tribe people have it. |
Kalen Vox
Veyr
The Veyr Collective
29
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:59:00 -
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If you don't trust them, you can put a collateral on the contract. Assuming you're not emotionally attached to the items, nothing to lose that way. |
Karl Planck
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
289
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:19:00 -
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Vladimir Dorgiers wrote:Ammzi wrote:PS:
Were you the one flying around in blue space 2 regions away with a vigil?
GF GF That's why I was kicked?? Oh wow. So Alliance chat talks about how good it would be to travel in, I think hmm, it IS a good idea, then die in it, and am booted. Oh wow. Well whatever. Looks like "this is EVE"... better get used to it.
thats null sec with null-drama. eve is what you make it, and you made the choice to join a **** corp. Next time, find a better one
Low-sec Best-sec |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
1881
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:52:00 -
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Vladimir Dorgiers wrote:Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Actually as an official alliance diplomat (look at our alliance description) I am not permitted to scam :( If you really want your stuff out, create a courier contract to parses, or contact me in game. Yea I am ******* buy that. Just like the email that said newbie friendly? Get stuffed scammer. And I'd rather trash it then let any tribe people have it.
Actually, with a properly set up courier contract (collateral > value of your stuff), you can't really lose. Just don't set it up wrong, or you can lose a lot. I once made about 1 bil ISK worth of stuff from some clueless goon who set up a contract wrong.
Looks like you had a bad experience with a "newbie friendly" corp. Shake it off, try a different one. Keep in mind:
- "Contract us your stuff to move it for you" -- likely a scam (though I do the same for my corp members, and I'm not scamming).
- "Recruitment fee/deposit/payment" -- scam.
- Check their killboard. Do they kill their own members?
- Are they "newbie friendly" and deep in 0.0? Probably not very newbie friendly, then. (There are exceptions, but they're not common)
- Look up info on them, and if they can be trusted.
- You cannot join GoonWaffe without being a member of the Something Awful forums. If anyone tells you otherwise, suspect lie/scam.
- You cannot join Dreddit without being a member of Reddit (for a long time, and are an active member). If anyone tells you otherwise, suspect lie/scam.
- Corp titles mean absolutely nothing other than that a director is in on the joke. I have a "Sovereignty Manager" title. My alliance has no sov, nor any intention to own sov.
- Thicker skin, HTFU, trust no-one, etc.
Welcome to Eve.
Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
83
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:26:00 -
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Vladimir Dorgiers wrote:Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Actually as an official alliance diplomat (look at our alliance description) I am not permitted to scam :( If you really want your stuff out, create a courier contract to parses, or contact me in game. Yea I am ******* buy that. Just like the email that said newbie friendly? Get stuffed scammer. And I'd rather trash it then let any tribe people have it.
This person is actually trying to be nice I think. Not everyone in EVE is a ****, they just are the loudest and most noticeable. If they are offering to move your stuff via a collateralized courier contract its not a scam. If they steal your stuff you get paid what it's worth, just make sure you set the collateral for what it's worth. |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:36:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:May I suggest applying to Goonswarm? I heard they are very newbie-friendly. I'm sure you can get a hold of a recruiter somewhere around here. I heard they'll even move your assets for you, so you won't have any logistical problems at all This is a known scam
No really? Who would do such a thing?!
It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways:
He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
ChrisTooFar
Infinite Covenant
Tribal Band
0
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:55:00 -
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OP Just happened to join at precisely the wrong time...
IG was cleaning awoxers, like walking in on your sister treating her crabs! ... bad Idear  |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
267
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:29:00 -
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Vladimir Dorgiers wrote: *realisation of playing an MMO that's not for pussies*
Welcome to EVE :)
Seriously though, welcome to EVE. Stick with it. 
The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
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