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REVENGE ANGEL
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Posted - 2005.03.24 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: REVENGE ANGEL on 24/03/2005 08:32:28
Why is the (level 4) Mission bonus for Guristas Extrava always 45 minutes or so from the time you accept the mission??? does anyone else but me think this is almost impossible to achieve?
Yes, I know the rewards from this mission are nice... but why not have a realistic bonus time?
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Merlin
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:06:00 -
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This is pure conjecture because I have not flown this mission in the last week, nor have I tried this BUT;
I think that all you have to do to complete the mission is to destroy the rats on the last level. It may be that you just have to destroy the named rat, but like I say I have not tried this theory.
Then again we all like destroying absolutely everything for the bounties and therefore it is a trade off between time to complete or ISK for dead pirates.
Someone must have tried this.....
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:18:00 -
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Actually I tried to go directlty through the gate with out shooting anything. This was not possible. You need to kill all the red thingies in you overview.
the 45 minutes is a joke. I have done the lvl 3 version in a raven full off jugs, fitted for speed (both flying and shooting) and did not loot a can accept the silo in last level. Time 53 minutes
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Qayos
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:22:00 -
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45 minutes is rediculous, and yes you do have to kill all the red guys or you get message the accell gate wont work. PLUS the rewards for killing all the badies is more than the bonus reward anyway... I think this should be adjusted but I dont really care, its a minor point. I just ignore the fact that there is even a bonus offered on extravaganzas, they are still fun missions.
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REVENGE ANGEL
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:38:00 -
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I hear ya Qayos, I'm just wondering why theres an impossible bonus (every time) mebbe a mistake? 
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Isamu Kongousuta
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Merlin
This is pure conjecture because I have not flown this mission in the last week, nor have I tried this BUT;
I think that all you have to do to complete the mission is to destroy the rats on the last level. It may be that you just have to destroy the named rat, but like I say I have not tried this theory.
Then again we all like destroying absolutely everything for the bounties and therefore it is a trade off between time to complete or ISK for dead pirates.
Someone must have tried this.....
kill the named rat works fine
but most of the times it noth worth to get the bonus looting all the stuff is much more worth .
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dellie
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:41:00 -
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If u take a speed kitted raven & mega (2 chars)
u can make it within 32 mins :)
let the mega snipe the far away rats
and the raven will do the heavy damage close up..
me & a m8 doing this every time we get one
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MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.03.24 10:55:00 -
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Normally mision bonusses are based on the average time taken to complete the mission (I think)
This "45 minutes" is because an average is not established / being used.
It is annoying. I get a lot of 45 minute missions and a friend and I can't complete them in time
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2005.03.24 11:02:00 -
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it is not the only mission with a fixed 45 minute timer. i have seen others as well, don't remember which ones 
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Balbriggan
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Posted - 2005.03.24 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Armi Tage
it is not the only mission with a fixed 45 minute timer. i have seen others as well, don't remember which ones
Most of the "new" missions have come with a 45 minute timer. Examples are vengeance, damsel in distress (lvl4) and pirate business too iirc
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:18:00 -
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I got a arbalest siege in it foprm a pith destroyer. yeha the 45minute bonus is retarted at lease 2hrs
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Faster ThanJesus
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Faster ThanJesus on 24/03/2005 12:59:28
it's possible to do in 45 with 3 people (and bonus) - 1 tank, 2 out and out damage dealers. With 2, I found doing the bonus lvl was a bit tough in time
My theory is that it's a new mission from the last patch and it's just not been balanced with regards to the bonus time. A lot of missions have been like that after they've been introduced with excessively low bonus times
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Allon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 13:35:00 -
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Bonus times are set as the average completion time for the mission. For new missions like guristas extravaganza there is initially no historic record of how long the mission takes so the bonus is set as the default of 45mins.
Once we get the next patch, the length of the bonus will adjust to the average length of time people have been taking to complete the mission since it was introduced and then further down the line this may vary slightly as people complete the mission faster/slower in future.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:41:00 -
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When the bonus rewards are 27 million isk skills like Heavy Assault Ships and Transport Ships 45 seems like a perfect time. I had an Apoc/Raven/Tempest to do the mission with when I got offered the Heavy Assault ship skill with the Serpentis Extravaganza and we finished with like 8 minutes to spare. Maybe the Gurista one is tougher though and that's your complaint, I just wanted to point out that the value of the bonus reward is a good reason for such a short amount of time.
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Faster ThanJesus
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtball
When the bonus rewards are 27 million isk skills like Heavy Assault Ships and Transport Ships 45 seems like a perfect time. I had an Apoc/Raven/Tempest to do the mission with when I got offered the Heavy Assault ship skill with the Serpentis Extravaganza and we finished with like 8 minutes to spare. Maybe the Gurista one is tougher though and that's your complaint, I just wanted to point out that the value of the bonus reward is a good reason for such a short amount of time.
I agree with you where the value of the bonus reward is so high. Due to the corp I work for, I am never offered those skills as bonuses (or never have been) and am usually offered ammo/consumer goods/ISK. In this event I don't think the 45 mins is worth it to get the help to do it in this time.
In summary, I think the bonus system could be adapted to better reflect the time taken to complete the mission, so you could get better bonuses the quicker you do it - in fact I'd suggest moving the core rewards of lvl 4 missions on to the bonus system away from bounties - but that's another topic!
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Garramon
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Posted - 2005.03.24 17:58:00 -
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Hehe, a friend and I did this last night. Granted he is real slow but 45 minutes seemed WAY off. I mean the 2nd level had 10BS alone.
Ah well it was a really good time, and were gonna do it again today.
Oh, bonus would have been 24 Bantams.... 
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dosperado
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Posted - 2005.03.25 02:33:00 -
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You can skip the 2nd level without shooting...just activate the next acceleration gate...
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2005.03.25 07:57:00 -
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I'm gonna start to sound like a broken record, but
please report bugs to bugs.eve-online.com, not in the forum!
At least if you want to have the bug looked at by a dev, and eventually fixed 
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.03.25 08:41:00 -
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It's not too short. The description advices to do this mission with multiple players. Hence the shorted timebonus.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2005.03.27 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tobiaz
It's not too short. The description advices to do this mission with multiple players. Hence the shorted timebonus.
What he said 
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