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superscarface	Posted - 2005.03.24 15:44:00 - [1] So i use the typical apoc setup 6 pulse, 2 siege 4 rechargers 2 reps, 2 harnders and 3 relays I can¦t hit jack. I use crystals to get optimal range and still have alot of trouble hitting npc battleships. My skills arent so bad...motion prediction lv4 and trajectory analysis lv1. Whenever i head straight for a big ship to try and improve tracking i get owned...Any suggestions? I especially need help with lv4 missions!
Rexy	Posted - 2005.03.24 15:49:00 - [2] how many SP do you have in gunnery? ido you match the crystals for range etc? maybe use a webber for ships that are to close All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :)
fras	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:12:00 - [3] Turn on transversal velocity on your scanner, watch the battleship you're trying to kill and match it's direction(do not go straight at it), try and get that number as low as possible. There isn't an npc battleship in the game I can't kill with megapulse and no web (as long as i'm not webbed myself). That includes close range orbiting angels etc etc.
superscarface	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:19:00 - [4] 2.7mil sps in gunnery. Ill try that scanner trick out. sigh maybe i should just train up caldari
Tar om	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:24:00 - [5] Just to cheer you up, I've got > 8m SP in gunnery and my 1400s still suck compared with a seige launcher.... If you're going caldari, do it now. -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net http://www.serenitymovie.com
Vicker Lahn'se	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:24:00 - [6] Who's Jack?
Kaeten	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:25:00 - [7] depends on what u trying to hit... ___________________________________ Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante
Arondor	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:26:00 - [8] I find if you stop all together the megapulses hit perfectly Arondor
Stepping Razor	Posted - 2005.03.24 16:43:00 - [9] It takes some time to eat through a BS, they tend to tank well and you have to be able to do the same. I can say that using only 2 hardeners is hardly the typical apoc setup. I never use less than three, and often use 4 named ones (cpu can be a bugger otherwise). That way I CAN head straight for the BS. For Amarr NPCs use 2 thermal, 1 or two EM. FOr Caldari, 2 or even 3 kinetic, 1 thermal. For Gallente, I can't say I have great experience, but 2 heat and 2 kinetic. Minmatar I usually use a Raven on, but for an armor tank you're really going to need a lot of hardeners, I'm guessing 2 exp, 1 thermal and 1 kinetic, but perhaps others have better advice there. Oh, and since you're using seiges, make sure you're packing the kind of damage-type cruises and torps that your NPC type is most vulnerable to. Check here: for data on what type of damage they do, and what their shield and armor resistances are. Razor Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
Jim Steele	Posted - 2005.03.24 17:06:00 - [10] you arnt using an AB are you? they really gimp your chanses to hit.. another idea is to use a tracking computer in your mids. Death to the Galante
xenorx	Posted - 2005.03.24 17:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect.
Iron Wraith	Posted - 2005.03.24 19:00:00 - [12] Originally by: xenorx Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect. hmm, i always assumed they were sibblings... Because sometimes you just have to go back to your roots: [2005.02.20 01:08:03] (combat) Your Civilian Light Electron Blaster perfectly strikes Serpentis Smuggler, wrecking for 20.3 damage.
JackDonkey	Posted - 2005.03.24 19:26:00 - [13] You can't hit me
Elita	Posted - 2005.03.24 20:18:00 - [14] Originally by: xenorx Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect. Good day. My RL name is Dr. Goosem of the Fairy Tale Crime Lab (CSI:FT). I have ascertained that someone did hit Jack, causing him to fall down the hill, and suffer a cranial fracture (broken crown). I initially suspected Jill, whose 'tumble' resulted in very minor, superficial injuries. However, one of my agents found a greatly oversized thumbprint on the well at the top of the hill, leading me to suspect one of the many giants that Jack killed in his previous career as a bounty hunter. Jack got a taste for killing giants at a young age, at the culmination of an incident involving a beanstalk. It seems that Jack's days as a giant killer have come back to haunt him, proving once and for all that you can hit Jack. -- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke
xenorx	Posted - 2005.03.24 20:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Elita Originally by: xenorx Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect. Good day. My RL name is Dr. Goosem of the Fairy Tale Crime Lab (CSI:FT). I have ascertained that someone did hit Jack, causing him to fall down the hill, and suffer a cranial fracture (broken crown). I initially suspected Jill, whose 'tumble' resulted in very minor, superficial injuries. However, one of my agents found a greatly oversized thumbprint on the well at the top of the hill, leading me to suspect one of the many giants that Jack killed in his previous career as a bounty hunter. Jack got a taste for killing giants at a young age, at the culmination of an incident involving a beanstalk. It seems that Jack's days as a giant killer have come back to haunt him, proving once and for all that you can hit Jack. Ah Ha! so that is what happened! I always thought that Jack had passed out from to much blood rushing out of his head to his beanstalk as Jill attempted to climb on top of it.
Letifer Deus	Posted - 2005.03.24 21:05:00 - [16] Originally by: xenorx Ah Ha! so that is what happened! I always thought that Jack had passed out from to much blood rushing out of his head to his beanstalk as Jill attempted to climb on top of it. Damn, if she's that good at climbing bean stalks, I definately need to get to know her. I am the OG PIIIIIMP
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.03.24 21:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Elita Originally by: xenorx Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect. Good day. My RL name is Dr. Goosem of the Fairy Tale Crime Lab (CSI:FT). I have ascertained that someone did hit Jack, causing him to fall down the hill, and suffer a cranial fracture (broken crown). I initially suspected Jill, whose 'tumble' resulted in very minor, superficial injuries. However, one of my agents found a greatly oversized thumbprint on the well at the top of the hill, leading me to suspect one of the many giants that Jack killed in his previous career as a bounty hunter. Jack got a taste for killing giants at a young age, at the culmination of an incident involving a beanstalk. It seems that Jack's days as a giant killer have come back to haunt him, proving once and for all that you can hit Jack. ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
X'Alor	Posted - 2005.03.24 21:17:00 - [18] Originally by: xenorx Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect. They both had $2.50 going up the hill. when they came down, jill had $5.00 and jack had a smile.
Minyon	Posted - 2005.03.25 01:03:00 - [19] Edited by: Minyon on 25/03/2005 01:03:34 i Dont know how you could be missing battleships when i can kill crusers and frigates with megapulses But your geting owned because you only have 2 hardners on put 3 or 4 on and you should tank much better
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.03.25 01:06:00 - [20] yea, how are you missing? lasers have nearly double the tracking of any other large gun ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.03.25 01:26:00 - [21] true
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.03.25 02:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Elita Originally by: xenorx Originally by: Vicker Lahn'se Who's Jack? He is the better half to Jill. They went up the hill to fetch a pail of water..ect. Good day. My RL name is Dr. Goosem of the Fairy Tale Crime Lab (CSI:FT). I have ascertained that someone did hit Jack, causing him to fall down the hill, and suffer a cranial fracture (broken crown). I initially suspected Jill, whose 'tumble' resulted in very minor, superficial injuries. However, one of my agents found a greatly oversized thumbprint on the well at the top of the hill, leading me to suspect one of the many giants that Jack killed in his previous career as a bounty hunter. Jack got a taste for killing giants at a young age, at the culmination of an incident involving a beanstalk. It seems that Jack's days as a giant killer have come back to haunt him, proving once and for all that you can hit Jack. classic ______________________ Pod from above.

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