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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5204
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:10:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Not many people bother doing the daisy chain titan thing because it's more of a pain in the ass to get the titans into the daisy chain then it is to tell the fleet to just take gates.
No don't you see we have a perfectly functioning titan highway and cyno chain and the pilots never fail to get online in time to bridge the fleets, what, you think I moved my pile of ships down to F2O in two Archons and a Nyx and podjumped down? lol This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
419
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:11:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:I don't know what you are on about andski but I am dramatically upset that joe publord can't come swinging into nullsec in his faction fit laser Macherial and take over an entire region. Clearly the problem isn't his ship, his tactics, the fact that he is attacking alone, or the fact that he isn't even coming to nullsec because he's mining one system over from Jita instead, it has to be something he doesn't have access too like jumpbridges... or something. I tried to put a POS up for a jump bridge once. It got blown up.
I tried to just put a POS up. It got blown up.
I tried flying a ship to get in. It got blown up.
I gave up and joined a big alliance and put in a POS. It got blown up.
Now I mine, one system over from Jita so I got something to do. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
695
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:15:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Removing the ability to travel quickly far from trade centers = less populated, not more
WRONG
It's the ability to travel quickly that allow the creation of such trade centers (especially superhubs like Jita) to exist in the first place. Slower travel results in more, smaller hubs to develop again.
If everybody has to trade in their car for a bike, they'll stop going to the WALL-MART on the other side of the town all the time and mostly just shop at the local grocery.
In the same way null doesn't care to stimulate the development of their claimed systems, because they can simply get everything from empire, cheaply, safely and with very little effort. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5204
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:18:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:I tried to put a POS up for a jump bridge once. It got blown up.
So you tried to put up a jump bridge POS in a system you don't own? This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5204
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:19:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:WRONG
It's the ability to travel quickly that allow the creation of such trade centers (especially superhubs like Jita) to exist in the first place. Slower travel results in more, smaller hubs to develop again.
If everybody has to trade in their car for a bike, they'll stop going to the WALL-MART on the other side of the town all the time and mostly just shop at the local grocery.
In the same way null doesn't care to stimulate the development of their claimed systems, because they can simply get everything from empire, cheaply, safely and with very little effort.
yo I'm p sure Jita was basically the same way it is now before jump freighters were added to this game
just thought i'd put that in~ This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
909
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Not many people bother doing the daisy chain titan thing because it's more of a pain in the ass to get the titans into the daisy chain then it is to tell the fleet to just take gates. No don't you see we have a perfectly functioning titan highway and cyno chain and the pilots never fail to get online in time to bridge the fleets, what, you think I moved my pile of ships down to F2O in two Archons and a Nyx and podjumped down? lol
confirming Goonswarm has a titan bridge directly from Jita to UMI
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
695
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:He's short by 9,999 helpers.
Love how you guys say, "come get" when nobody in their right mind could, even if they tried.
Like daring Tasmania to invade the US.
C'mon boys, let's get 'em!!!! So why should game mechanics be changed to suit those who lack the skills to organize?
Because before those mechanics were implemented, null wasn't the stagnant NAP-fest it is now?
A few super-coalitions keeping the rest of null culled and depopulated, boredom causing these null-bears to spend more time in empire then fighting their neighbors at home. Ironic isn't it?
Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Bane Necran
550
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:So since it's not as easy as your "grand" conquest of Worlds Collide it's broken?
My favorite conquests involve mopping the floor with you on these forums, mittens.
You really have to stop making it so easy. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5204
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:28:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Because before those mechanics were implemented, null wasn't the stagnant NAP-fest it is now?
A few super-coalitions keeping the rest of null culled and depopulated, boredom causing these null-bears to spend more time in empire then fighting their neighbors at home. Ironic isn't it?
Yeah nullsec is totally stagnant it's not like there's any wars going on right now This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5204
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:29:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:My favorite conquests involve mopping the floor with you on these forums, mittens.
You really have to stop making it so easy.
okay "mop the floor" with me on these forums
also you think i'm mittens 'lol' This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Bane Necran
550
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:okay "mop the floor" with me on these forums
Probably not the best choice of words. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Jinli mei
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
131
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:39:00 -
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I once saw a titan in Luminaire and it continually spawned red npcs and blew up my ship full of PLEX
When will CCP realize that Titans and Jump Freighters need to be heavily nerfed. It's not fair that players can spawn npcs and jump around without using gates.
I'm pretty sure those are the only two that dont use gates though so I mean at least they didn't mess up too badly. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5207
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:41:00 -
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Jinli mei wrote:I once saw a titan in Luminaire and it continually spawned red npcs and blew up my ship full of PLEX
When will CCP realize that Titans and Jump Freighters need to be heavily nerfed. It's not fair that players can spawn npcs and jump around without using gates.
I'm pretty sure those are the only two that dont use gates though so I mean at least they didn't mess up too badly.
At least you can rest easy knowing that you died cap stable This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:42:00 -
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fin1712
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:43:00 -
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
695
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:46:00 -
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Andski wrote:Tobiaz wrote:Because before those mechanics were implemented, null wasn't the stagnant NAP-fest it is now?
A few super-coalitions keeping the rest of null culled and depopulated, boredom causing these null-bears to spend more time in empire then fighting their neighbors at home. Ironic isn't it?
Yeah nullsec is totally stagnant it's not like there's any wars going on right now
Just beause there are some wars going on, doesn't mean much actually CHANGES in null.
With all the new opportunities the players have these days, the 'ecosystem' and industry in null has hardly improved since before jump-mechanics. Most of their stuff still comes from empire.
That seems pretty stagnant to me. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
fin1712
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:48:00 -
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I like the way you think. |
The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
73
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:48:00 -
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The frig roam don't go out to kill frigs. They go out for the tiny chance of zerging down on a lost Machariel or 5B Tengu. To tackle a carrier or dread. To spot travelling supers. The pilots are new or poor or both and their situation destine them to mine and train for Drakes. But they want to do something bigger. Most of them will not kill anything worthy and will return with nothing but frig kills. But the hope of doing something above their league provides enough fun to keep them training and mining/ratting, to grow to the point when they regularly blap Tengus in their Navy Apocalypses.
If you aim for nothing but paying the bills tomorrow, you'll succeed in paying bills forever. If you aim for the stars, you'll probably fail and only reach the sky.
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EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
285
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:49:00 -
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I agree with the OP, jump freighters and titan bridges run eve and make it bearable for alliances to hold sov in deep space.
A good thread! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1822
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:49:00 -
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Well let's think about this.
The nullbears whine that solo players and the highsec PVE crowd are not getting that needed interaction that this game is all about, they say.
So...
if they had to form a convoy to move goods, would that not be the all holy "interaction with the other players of EvE" that they tout and claim to be so leet over?
Oh I know, people want to have their cake and eat it too.
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:02:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Well let's think about this.
The nullbears whine that solo players and the highsec PVE crowd are not getting that needed interaction that this game is all about, they say.
So...
if they had to form a convoy to move goods, would that not be the all holy "interaction with the other players of EvE" that they tout and claim to be so leet over?
Oh I know, people want to have their cake and eat it too.
I really don't get the point you're trying to make?
How would convoys have us interact with the highsec PVE crowd, exactly? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5208
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:07:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:I really don't get the point you're trying to make?
How would convoys have us interact with the highsec PVE crowd, exactly?
hiseccer who lives in the area that does not incentivize player interaction and thus does not interact with other players voices his opinion on nullsec players not interacting with other players to a level sufficient to his liking
news at 11 This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
253
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:23:00 -
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Nerf Black Ops |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
684
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:27:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:
Because before those mechanics were implemented, null wasn't the stagnant NAP-fest it is now?
A few super-coalitions keeping the rest of null culled and depopulated, boredom causing these null-bears to spend more time in empire then fighting their neighbors at home. Ironic isn't it?
You are aware Nullsec is basically on fire right now right? RIGHT?! |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1960
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:31:00 -
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paying rent to all these big coalition blocs... being part of INK... arggghh |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:38:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:paying rent to all these big coalition blocs... being part of INK... arggghh
Renting is a dumb setup, we can all agree. How about we make nullsec actually worth something, then you can nerf titans/jf's all you want. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
421
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:43:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:... How about we make nullsec actually worth something... To whom?
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1474
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:43:00 -
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I love everyone uses the most extreme examples in their arguments.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
421
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:46:00 -
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Andski wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:I tried to put a POS up for a jump bridge once. It got blown up. So you tried to put up a jump bridge POS in a system you don't own? Nope. I put the POS in so we could work on owning the system so we could put a bridge in so we could......
Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could.... Put in another POS, take the next system, put in a jb so we could....
Isn't that how it's done? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.10.19 01:46:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:... How about we make nullsec actually worth something... To whom?
To anyone? It's pretty worthless as-is, especially as CCP continue to try and refactor any and all income against Highsec L4 missions.
The moons only help supply a Top-Down income so that alliance members want to actually go out and PvP so that they don't have to grind up a new ship if they lose one.
The income should be Bottom-Up, where those on the bottom earn enough that taxes cover anything the alliance needs. |
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