Your other option is "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". For a limited time only, we're offering empire ice miners the opportunity to join GoonWaffe, and to mine in relative safety in the ice belts of Cloud Ring.

All it takes is a quick background check, to make sure you're not a PL/Ev0ke/random-hostile-of-the-month alt, a 500m security deposit (returned after a month) to make sure you're not going to start Awoxing immediately, and you're all set.

Give me a shout in-game, and we can get you started back on the path to low-risk mining again.

Unless the mechanics have changed recently CONCORD spawns for each attack, and the ones currently on grid won't destroy any future attackers.

So having CONCORD already spawned does nothing as they are too busy waiting to depawn to blow up any new gankers.

It will not work coNCORD will only react after a attack so by the time they react you are fried ; second if i am not mistakekn; your idea is seen as a exploit by ccp and you get a friendly warning first time


Best defence is to mine smart there s been plenty of threads explaining how to minimize the risks of getting ganked i am not going to repeat them

And for th Goons we all know they a bunch of liars idiots and cheaters who are scared to death attacking something that actually can shoot back so don't take any notice of these goons trolling


Goons Delenda Est

Being from a wormhole, I'm familiar to all sorts of ganking.

In high sec though, as long as you're not afk, and you're willing to jump to safety when Goons pop in local, then you'll be fine.
If I had any mining skills, I would go taunt the goons in a mackariel. Unfortunately, by the time I finish that training, the Goons will already be on another project.

Oh well, only good can come from this. I'm personally hoping Wormhole will get a share of Ice resources and maybe more.

Actually, quite a few of the goons doing the ganking are outlaws, so you can shoot them on sight if they are in space anywhere, no need to wait on them firing the first shot.

We had a little fun and giggles with them last night in our local ice belt, saved a mackinaw that was mining ice, and blew up some goons. Sadly didn't get the Pod.

Unless the mechanics have changed recently CONCORD spawns for each attack, and the ones currently on grid won't destroy any future attackers.

So having CONCORD already spawned does nothing as they are too busy waiting to depawn to blow up any new gankers.

ahahaha the people trying to do this are hilarious cause it's stupidly ineffective, the brutix probably got jammed by the faction police and flubbed the gank as a result: a brutix with the standard DCII has easily enough ehp to survive you trying to shoot them because they need to survive faction police shooting them the instant they land

So anotherwords, you can't admit when your an idiot.....

You blame your horribel fitting on a "bad roll of the dice." And don't get me started on ecm mechanics. I'm a very experienced ecm pilot.

In light of doucheswarm's

...

oh and lets not forget all the Brutixes I'm selling..

Goons Delenda Est

Goons dominus est?

Your other option is "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". For a limited time only, we're offering empire ice miners the opportunity to join GoonWaffe, and to mine in relative safety in the ice belts of Cloud Ring.

All it takes is a quick background check, to make sure you're not a PL/Ev0ke/random-hostile-of-the-month alt, a 500m security deposit (returned after a month) to make sure you're not going to start Awoxing immediately, and you're all set.

Give me a shout in-game, and we can get you started back on the path to low-risk mining again.

At least ice mining will see a little more excitements

good luck

I haven't seen any Goons ganking ice miners...where are they ganking?

You forgot Aydoteaux system. Next door to Tolle and TWO Ice Belts.

With that many concord in the belts, it will take nothing less than an alpha strike from a minmatar battleship to pop the macks.

I doubt that even the Goons and allies could keep up that sort of gank rate for very long.

Surely there are more gallente systems with blue ice then those 10 systems mentioned
Check your dotlan maps , i am pretty sure you can find a nice high sec island with alot of belts and ice in them

and just repeating what i wrote before
Spawning concord in your belt will not help you one bit , Concord will attack onlmy after you ve been attacked and since a alpha strike will kill any mack CONCORD will just respawn to kill the gankers , plus it is seen as a minor exploit and can get you a nice warning from CCP
MINE SMART and stay alive , eventually this will stop when people are getting tired ond bored of this or when too many people need to repair there security standing again


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most of them haven't realized yet that we're just killing everything that stands still long enough to be ganked, i gobbled up five hulks in two hours this evening and they all complained that they were 'belt miners' not 'ice miners' so why wasn't i leaving them to live and love in peace and harmony

please do not change hisec i have so many long knives with which to stab you

It will not work coNCORD will only react after a attack so by the time they react you are fried ; second if i am not mistakekn; your idea is seen as a exploit by ccp and you get a friendly warning first time


Best defence is to mine smart there s been plenty of threads explaining how to minimize the risks of getting ganked i am not going to repeat them

And for th Goons we all know they a bunch of liars idiots and cheaters who are scared to death attacking something that actually can shoot back so don't take any notice of these goons trolling


Goons Delenda Est

You're a disgrace to CCP. The fact you're part of the CSM is a joke and you should be deleted and removed from the game.

Miners are already underpowered in all aspects of eve. Go pick on some Gdamn incursion pilots.

Worthless scumbags.



EDIT: And no, I've never been ganked. You're just worthless enough to gain this response which you like to call 'tears' whether or not it's actually 'truth'.

17 systems, two are deep island systems, 1 doesn't have a station

Of course economic warfare where you do not control a vast number of the resources is doomed to failure. I have no doubt that even now large number of ice miners are having a field day in nullsec outside of goon space. If goons use military warfare to attempt to control these belts then they have a chance of winning, if not this was just an exercise in messing with hisec ice miners.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Goonswarm pretty much control all of the oxytopes nullsec?

So the exhumer still dies, the goon gets reimbursed for his dead BS and the miner is out not just his ship but the amount of time it took him to mess around baiting concord that didn't save him in the end. Sounds like a brilliant plan!

You're a disgrace to CCP. The fact you're part of the CSM is a joke and you should be deleted and removed from the game.

According to our supplier, the method works and ship loss is minimal - some miners are even considering switching back to Hulks (but, not Macks, since they are too obvious). And, although it is less efficient, it is actually more profitable due to the rise in ice product prices.

Who else agrees? Sounds like a lot of time spent warping, and heavier workload for multiboxers.

When the scouts report all clear, they warp in a series of disposable T1 mining barges, mine for a single cycle, then warp the ice immediately back to station. Just like noob mining. They warp back to the ice belt, to a different BM each time, and repeat. The ships are spread out, to avoid smart bomb attacks, and they fly into the belt at different, staggered, times. This is all designed to minimize the exposure time of each mining ship, and make it impossible to coordinate a gank against the whole mining fleet.

Well, our main supplier of oxytopes has resumed full high sec production and we're selling off our surplus for a tidy profit. Thanks, Goons!

For the curious, our ice supplier recruited a few small corps, which happened to live in the affected high sec systems, to act as scouts and provide 23/7 intel on ice belt activity. When the scouts report all clear, they warp in a series of disposable T1 mining barges, mine for a single cycle, then warp the ice immediately back to station. Just like noob mining. They warp back to the ice belt, to a different BM each time, and repeat. The ships are spread out, to avoid smart bomb attacks, and they fly into the belt at different, staggered, times. This is all designed to minimize the exposure time of each mining ship, and make it impossible to coordinate a gank against the whole mining fleet.

If the scouts report a spike in local, or see a known ganker lurking around, everyone scatters. Some jump back to station and log off. Others like to screw around with the gankers by jumping to an asteroid belt, pretending to be ore miners. After the threat is gone, they resume ice mining.

The miners also have alts and ships in the different ice systems, so if the threat is persistent in one system, they just switch to another system, which the scouts have reported as being clear.

According to our supplier, the method works and ship loss is minimal - some miners are even considering switching back to Hulks (but, not Macks, since they are too obvious). And, although it is less efficient, it is actually more profitable due to the rise in ice product prices.

This has to be a troll. Why would go through all of that for such a tiny yield of ice? That's almost as bad as the guy I saw the other night who was running four accounts trying to mine. He had a Hulk with a decent tank but only one ice harvester. He also had a scimitar giving shield reps, a dominix giving armor reps and an orca giving bonuses to everything. He was running four accounts to run one single ice harvester (at least he was before he got blown up). It was amazing.

Your other option is "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". For a limited time only, we're offering empire ice miners the opportunity to join GoonWaffe, and to mine in relative safety in the ice belts of Cloud Ring.

All it takes is a quick background check, to make sure you're not a PL/Ev0ke/random-hostile-of-the-month alt, a 500m security deposit (returned after a month) to make sure you're not going to start Awoxing immediately, and you're all set.

Give me a shout in-game, and we can get you started back on the path to low-risk mining again.