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Rayge PVV
Wormbro
Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2012.10.19 22:08:00 -
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This article is my first one that has 2 interviewees, I'm really excited to see what the wormhole community thinks of it. Give me your honest thoughts!
GÇÄ"Don't give yourselves to the unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts. You are not machines, you are not cattle, you are men!" -Charlie Chaplin |
Kimberli
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.20 04:48:00 -
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Good read. Made me want to both leave wormhole space for good and get in and see what all the fuss is about. The end game for EvE has been the collection of tears through PvP. Wormholes offer both prey and predator where PvP comes to you if you don't go looking for it. This is why I trained my cat to hit D-Scan every 7 seconds. One Day I will build an app that does just that and sounds a klaxon in my room if it picks up new readings. Maybe I can even get CCP to hit the Like button on it.
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Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.10.20 05:07:00 -
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Nice article, but I have to disagree with Zeke. C5s are not dying, I see more occupied C5s then ever before. However there is a consolidation of players into alliance, not sure how that will effect w-space in the long run but C5s with all their juicy Z142s is a pvpers dream. |
Tahna Rouspel
Big Johnson's
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Posted - 2012.10.20 12:17:00 -
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I also disagree that POS don't need a complete revamp. There's nothing simple about fixing the current POS. |
Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.10.20 13:28:00 -
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The "rolling crew" part of the article reminds me too much of k-space pvp where people just sit on a titan waiting to be bridged onto a target.
It is propagating the idea that w-space pvpers are just as lazy as k-space ones and rely on just a few individuals to find their fights for them. |
Rayge PVV
Wormbro
Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:38:00 -
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good input. Which do you think would make a better follow-up article, one on wh mercenaries and pos bashes, one on c1-3 life, or an article on the details of high end wh PVE?
GÇÄ"Don't give yourselves to the unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts. You are not machines, you are not cattle, you are men!" -Charlie Chaplin |
Anicetus Eros
TriFlexure
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Posted - 2012.10.21 09:07:00 -
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I enjoyed this article. |
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:49:00 -
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Rayge PVV wrote:good input. Which do you think would make a better follow-up article, one on wh mercenaries and pos bashes, one on c1-3 life, or an article on the details of high end wh PVE?
I think you could do one on say some of the lower class WH invasion work that's been done, although an article on straight up C1-3 life would be good as well. |
jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
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Posted - 2012.10.21 18:12:00 -
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Your article is nice. Every WH corp does things a little differently, so you only provide one slice of how one group does it, but it was much better than most of the WH coverage I've seen in the broader EVE media.
Low-end WHs would be a more interesting follow-up I think.
PvE? ehhhh. The only thing about WH PvE that might be worth an article would be something looking at how it might inform the upcoming application of Level One AI to everything in the game. |
Rayge PVV
Wormbro
Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2012.10.22 16:30:00 -
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jonnykefka wrote:Your article is nice. Every WH corp does things a little differently, so you only provide one slice of how one group does it, but it was much better than most of the WH coverage I've seen in the broader EVE media.
Low-end WHs would be a more interesting follow-up I think.
PvE? ehhhh. The only thing about WH PvE that might be worth an article would be something looking at how it might inform the upcoming application of Level One AI to everything in the game.
Hey, that's a good idea! I'm sure lots of EVE players are wondering about that.
GÇÄ"Don't give yourselves to the unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts. You are not machines, you are not cattle, you are men!" -Charlie Chaplin |
Chitsa Jason
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.10.23 11:26:00 -
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Very nice read. For the next one both Low end whs or high end whs sound interesting. PVE not so much.
Hit me up if you will need more info about high ends. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
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Posted - 2012.10.23 12:50:00 -
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Rengas wrote:The "rolling crew" part of the article reminds me too much of k-space pvp where people just sit on a titan waiting to be bridged onto a target.
It is propagating the idea that w-space pvpers are just as lazy as k-space ones and rely on just a few individuals to find their fights for them.
A fleet rolling chains looking for something isn't the same as people ship spinning in k-space waiting for a bridge though, is it? Or do you just mean that the article didn't make that clear enough |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:35:00 -
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C1-C3 pvp groups would be a great follow up, as would C6 pvp, as well as merc contracts. But i'm biased as I am in a merc alliance.. But seriously, would love to read on the shallower wormhole groups. |
Henry Montclaire
42nd Devils and Dragons
Dalek Asylum
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Posted - 2012.10.25 23:20:00 -
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I read the article and enjoyed it a lot. I'd like to see one on C1-C3 life as I'm still pretty new to Eve and am currently living in a C2. Would be nice to see how others do it, and what things I could take advantage of that I'm not.
Good work, whatever you pick, I look forward to reading it! |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:18:00 -
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Rayge PVV wrote:This article is my first one that has 2 interviewees, I'm really excited to see what the wormhole community thinks of it. Give me your honest thoughts!
Quote from the Article:
The big issue concerning Zeke is the fact that "C5 PVP is dying off. Everyone's moving to C4's or especially C2's where there are no industry penalties. They can build a carrier inside the hole and be very difficult to remove." C5's are "just too easy to invade," and wormhole corps are becoming more and "more defensive," Zeke belives. PVP players have to bring more and more players in in order to win. This has the effect of increasing the number of splits and reducing PVP profit. "C5's with a C5 static are the new 'black hole system,' no one worth killing wants to live there anymore."
As a corp that lives in a C2 w/ a C4 static, I can definitely say we've seen a rise in residents in C4s (mostly C4s with statics to C1-C3, but some C4-C4 corps). Interestingly, it's a LOT of Russian corps. I don't think that C5s are dying; the pvp may be dying, but that's a different issues. You're not getting NEW people in C5s; there's still plenty of GIANT wormhole alliances (from us little guys perspective) who every time they static into us smack us around or brutalize C4 fleets. It's really daunting for smaller corps to get into C5s when every time we see C5ers they're a competent 15-30 man fleet trying to get a 5-10 man gang to pvp.
And in response to Zeke's final comment about blue-balling, we'd love to fight you, but frankly Tier 3 battlecruisers don't do much against 5 falcons, a couple bhaals, and 20 T3 cruisers with logi support.
It's a common phrase outside w-space: try shipping down. Maybe if you bring something we could actually hope to kill we'd fight.
Svodola Darkfury. |
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