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Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:08:00 - [1] - Quote I'd like to conduct some time tests, Shuttle, Crane, some Inteceptor, Charon, to see how fast AFK travel actually is, and find out which one is fastest. I have the means to do this already. I own a Charon, and several Cranes fitted for AFK travel (STL speed, a little buffer tank), I can easily afford to buy an Interceptor or two, and Shuttles are rather cheap. The only problem is, I'm not sure what distance I should test, the start and end system of the test. Since I operate out of Jita, that might be a good starting or end point, but to/from where, then? Amarr? IIRC that's only about 15 jumps. Obviously I want to do this through high-sec only, and then share my findings (because it's not obvious which of warp speed and STL speed is best), but in order to get good test results, minimizing error, the trip should be long, preferably 20-30 jumps. So from where to where should I do this test? And are there any other ships I ought to test, besides Shuttle, Blockade Runner and Interceptor (and Charon, which I'll test for other reasons)? And which Interceptor should I test? I can fly the Interceptors of all races (but only Caldari and Gallente Transports).
Rel'k Bloodlor Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords 200	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:17:00 - [2] - Quote gal recon frigg. almost positive with riggs and fitting they are the fastest. also you may wish to use DOTLAN eve maps to set a coarse with a nice set of long and short AU systems and what have you. good luck. I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec. Were is the FW exclusive frigate sized ship? I see the cruiser and battle ship..........
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.20 12:54:00 - [3] - Quote I'm assuming that if I opt for a long trip, then I will probably get a combination of long warp trips and short warp trips. Jita to Rens is 25 jumps.
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 317	Posted - 2012.10.20 13:43:00 - [4] - Quote interceptor is fastest, no need to test ;)
01two EVE University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2012.10.20 14:17:00 - [5] - Quote This may be of interest - Howto: Build a fast autopiloting ship
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.20 15:02:00 - [6] - Quote Doddy wrote: interceptor is fastest, no need to test ;) Faster than shuttle?
Bernard 2007 The Scarlet Storm 1	Posted - 2012.10.20 15:19:00 - [7] - Quote Salpad wrote: Doddy wrote: interceptor is fastest, no need to test ;) Faster than shuttle? Much faster yes, fitted right it has better acceleration, faster warp speed, faster top speed and so on. Covops are also very good.
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 126	Posted - 2012.10.20 15:51:00 - [8] - Quote Jump clone fastest
Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 53	Posted - 2012.10.20 16:14:00 - [9] - Quote Claw
Syrias Bizniz Carnivore Company To be Announced. 15	Posted - 2012.10.20 17:43:00 - [10] - Quote The Tackle-Interceptors (Those with the Disruptor Range Bonus) have a Warpspeed of 13.5 AU, as well as the Cover Ops Scan Frigs. The other Ceptors only have Warpspeed 9. Thing is, to really benefit from your warpspeed, you will have to warp over distances of more then 30 AU per Warp. And even then, you will only get one, maybe two seconds ahead of other ships. It really starts kicking in though once your warps are 100 AU++. Then what matters next for autopiloting is maxspeed of your ship as well as aligntime. I'd probably go for an Ares with 4x Nanofiber and 2x Auxillary Thruster Rigs and obviously a full snake set. ;)
Exploited Engineer Creatively Applied Violence Inc. 96	Posted - 2012.10.20 18:52:00 - [11] - Quote Salpad wrote: Faster than shuttle? Compared to an interceptor, a shuttle is slow. Just compare warp speed, etc. Heck, some frigates are faster than shuttles.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.20 20:18:00 - [12] - Quote Charon: I did Jita undock, warp to undock bookmark 160 km out, then autopilot right after, to Rens. 121 minutes. Undock, autopilot back to Jita. 122 minutes. I made sure my client was not minimized during approach to dock, since that sometimes produces very odd delays. Average: 121.5 minutes for 25 jumps or 4.86 minutes per jump. Round up to 5min/jump to get a good ballpark figure (12 jumps per hour). That's with all skillz at 5. Navigation and Caldari Freighter, and if there's anything else affecting the process, chances are I've got that trained to 5 too.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.20 20:21:00 - [13] - Quote Exploited Engineer wrote: Salpad wrote: Faster than shuttle? Compared to an interceptor, a shuttle is slow. Just compare warp speed, etc. Heck, some frigates are faster than shuttles. My concern was STL speed, but while a shuttle can do 500 m/s without Navigation skill, a Raptor can do something like 405 or 415 and you can pimp it with LOW slot speed modules. With Navigation trained to 5, my shuttle does 625 m/s, while my Raptor with 3x T2 Nanofiber does 646 m/s. And it warps a lot faster (and even more so with T1 warp rigs). There's another racial Interceptor, Gallente I think, that has a base STL of 450 m/s and four LOW slots (and the other two races are in between that and the Caldari model I can fly). So Gallente will be even faster. Most autopilot warps, the Raptor only spends 2-3 seconds at above 19 AU/sec, so the thing to focus on is STL speed, from warp-in to stargate.
themaker1971 Neutral Industries L8 Barbarian Wine and Cheese Society 0	Posted - 2012.10.21 03:42:00 - [14] - Quote Claw - 822m/s on AP
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.21 09:48:00 - [15] - Quote themaker1971 wrote: Claw - 822m/s on AP How do you get it that fast without keyboard jamming? Note also that the Claw only does 9 AU/sec FTL.
Manique Ominous Corp 5	Posted - 2012.10.21 10:10:00 - [16] - Quote Dramiel with FTL rigs and overdrives :)
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.21 16:10:00 - [17] - Quote Manique wrote: Dramiel with FTL rigs and overdrives :) 6 AU/s on the FTL. No, I don't think so.
Wardeneo Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.10.21 18:55:00 - [18] - Quote Cheetah / stiletto - with warp speed rigs it can warp at 19-21au/s (t1-t2) iirc Nano's/ overdrives in lows for speed n fast align time .... Both of mine are fitted with mwd n cloak on cheetah Done :) Same can be done for any cov ops/ tackle inty but minmitar seem to be the fastest overall.... -Wardeneo-
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.21 19:26:00 - [19] - Quote You don't need 21 AU/s. 19 or so is plenty. Even in a large gate-to-gate warp, you'll spend only a very few seconds at top warp speed. So skip the T2 rigs.
themaker1971 Neutral Industries L8 Barbarian Wine and Cheese Society 0	Posted - 2012.10.21 19:42:00 - [20] - Quote Salpad wrote: themaker1971 wrote: Claw - 822m/s on AP How do you get it that fast without keyboard jamming? Note also that the Claw only does 9 AU/sec FTL. Its just the standard speed. 3 x overdrive t2 1xNano t2 1 x small aux thruster 1 x poly engine housing
Jacob Holland Weyland-Vulcan Industries Alliance not Found 73	Posted - 2012.10.22 02:12:00 - [21] - Quote Salpad wrote: Charon: I did Jita undock, warp to undock bookmark 160 km out, then autopilot right after, to Rens. 121 minutes. Undock, autopilot back to Jita. 122 minutes. I made sure my client was not minimized during approach to dock, since that sometimes produces very odd delays. Average: 121.5 minutes for 25 jumps or 4.86 minutes per jump. Round up to 5min/jump to get a good ballpark figure (12 jumps per hour). That's with all skillz at 5. Navigation and Caldari Freighter, and if there's anything else affecting the process, chances are I've got that trained to 5 too. Same method, same skills, no implants a Fenrir does the same journey in: Jita - Rens: 1:41:39 Rens - Jita: 1:42:36 Average: 1:42:08 (times measured from undock to Autopilot Disabled). Though the Fenrir caps out at 900,000 m3 it does save 20 minutes (almost exactly) on a 25 jump run - 48 seconds per jump may not seem like much but it's worth considering...
Sphit Ker Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 123	Posted - 2012.10.22 06:44:00 - [22] - Quote ha. I won't dabble into ~eft numbers~. Vigil with hyperspatial rigs and nanofiber low rack always win at ISK to speed ratio. highsec shuttle of the century.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.22 11:12:00 - [23] - Quote Jacob Holland wrote: Salpad wrote: Charon: I did Jita undock, warp to undock bookmark 160 km out, then autopilot right after, to Rens. 121 minutes. Undock, autopilot back to Jita. 122 minutes. I made sure my client was not minimized during approach to dock, since that sometimes produces very odd delays. Average: 121.5 minutes for 25 jumps or 4.86 minutes per jump. Round up to 5min/jump to get a good ballpark figure (12 jumps per hour). That's with all skillz at 5. Navigation and Caldari Freighter, and if there's anything else affecting the process, chances are I've got that trained to 5 too. Same method, same skills, no implants a Fenrir does the same journey in: Jita - Rens: 1:41:39 Rens - Jita: 1:42:36 Average: 1:42:08 (times measured from undock to Autopilot Disabled). Though the Fenrir caps out at 900,000 m3 it does save 20 minutes (almost exactly) on a 25 jump run - 48 seconds per jump may not seem like much but it's worth considering... Thanks for the data point! Does the Fenrir warp at the same speed as the Charon? 0.7 AU/s? So that it's only its STL speed, 15 km to gate, that makes the difference? I often travel with a full hold, needing to make several long trips hauling ores or tritanium or similar low-value stuff, so for me those extra 80k m3 may be worth the slower AFK travel speed, but obviously for other traders who mainly travel with their Charons half empty, switching to a Fenrir makes sense.
Nikodiemus Jokulhlaup 54	Posted - 2012.10.22 12:11:00 - [24] - Quote Syrias Bizniz wrote: The Tackle-Interceptors (Those with the Disruptor Range Bonus) have a Warpspeed of 13.5 AU, as well as the Cover Ops Scan Frigs. The other Ceptors only have Warpspeed 9. Thing is, to really benefit from your warpspeed, you will have to warp over distances of more then 30 AU per Warp. And even then, you will only get one, maybe two seconds ahead of other ships. It really starts kicking in though once your warps are 100 AU++. Then what matters next for autopiloting is maxspeed of your ship as well as aligntime. I'd probably go for an Ares with 4x Nanofiber and 2x Auxillary Thruster Rigs and obviously a full snake set. ;) This is mostly what I would use except instead of the aux thruster rigs, with which you are only gaining a few m/s after using 4 nanos, put in 2 hyperspatial velocity opti's to get your warp speed to around 19au/sec. Worth far more than a couple m/s.
Jacob Holland Weyland-Vulcan Industries Alliance not Found 73	Posted - 2012.10.22 12:56:00 - [25] - Quote Salpad wrote: Does the Fenrir warp at the same speed as the Charon? 0.7 AU/s? So that it's only its STL speed, 15 km to gate, that makes the difference? I often travel with a full hold, needing to make several long trips hauling ores or tritanium or similar low-value stuff, so for me those extra 80k m3 may be worth the slower AFK travel speed, but obviously for other traders who mainly travel with their Charons half empty, switching to a Fenrir makes sense. Same speed in warp so the difference is in sub-light top speed and in agility for the alignment (though that's a lesser variable). Though for many folk travelling with a full freighter it's often one of several loads, the freighter is full because it's not large enough to have free space. If the load is large enough then, with a 40 minute saving on the round trip the Fenrir may work out better even then... depending on the size of the load. By my reckonning the Fenrir can do six round trips between Rens and Jita in the time it takes for the Charon to do five (that's 20 hours so it's not generally relevant to normal gameplay but there are odd occasions where it might be) meaning that in that time the Charon has moved (980,000m3 x 5) = 4.9 million cubic meters of stuff while the Fenrir has moved (900,000 x 6) = 5.4 million. That's an extreme example of course - if you're moving that much stuff that far then you're probably better off doing it with six freighters rather than in six trips (which is where people like Red Frog can make their money) but if your load is a more reasonable 1.5 million cubic meters both ships must make two trips and the saving on the Fenrir is an hour and twenty minutes - which might be nearly enough for a trip to Amarr and back.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.22 13:26:00 - [26] - Quote Good analysis, Jacob! What about gank-proofing, though? Isn't the Charon supposed to have stronger shields than the alternatives? With maxed skillz, my Charon has 7725 shield HP, and a recharge time of 1500s, giving an average recharge of 5.15 HP/s, and a peak of 12 HP/s using a very conservative multiplier.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 238	Posted - 2012.10.22 13:27:00 - [27] - Quote Salpad wrote: themaker1971 wrote: Claw - 822m/s on AP How do you get it that fast without keyboard jamming? Note also that the Claw only does 9 AU/sec FTL. You loose more time on approach. The warp speed only really helps in big systems, you will ALWAYS have to burn that 15km. .....pretty sure the Vigil is actually fastest it has a hull based speed bonus, no buttons required.
Oraac Ensor School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 59	Posted - 2012.10.23 05:57:00 - [28] - Quote Onictus wrote: .....pretty sure the Vigil is actually fastest it has a hull based speed bonus, no buttons required. Not for much longer.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 93	Posted - 2012.10.23 14:21:00 - [29] - Quote Raptor with T2 nanofibers and T1 hyper rigs, Jita to Rens, looks like 31 minutes, but I didn't make a return trip, and I was AFK when my ship reached it, so the arrival time is based on the log. I'll do a Jita-Rens-Jita round trip later, to confirm the 31 (62) minutes. Don't take the 31 minutes too seriously until I or someone else confirms it.
Arkadelphia Day Trippers 0	Posted - 2012.10.25 21:06:00 - [30] - Quote Salpad wrote: I'm assuming that if I opt for a long trip, then I will probably get a combination of long warp trips and short warp trips. Jita to Rens is 25 jumps. 25 jumps if your scared... Knowing how to live and taking the short cut is quite easy Edit: forgot this was talking afk..my bad..carry on.

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