I don't understand, how is AFK cloaking OP? Ed: can we have a comment from some AFK cloaker or something? If they're such a huge problem, they should be around.

So... what I'm gathering is that, since cynos are the problem with AFK cloaking, then the problem rests with the strength and proliferation of capital/supercapital ships, not with the act of AFK cloaking itself.

Correct?

AFK Cloaking is just a lame tactic. It's boring, predictable and a bit crap. It's a mechanic that shouldn't really exist.

On the other hand you can always just all move system, if the afk cloaker realises and follows you then all you need to do is move again then wait to kill him. Most the time they wont even realise for hours, in which case you probably wont even know they move.

So not matter how lame the tactic is I've never stopped ratting due to AFK cloakers because I move, so I'm not fussed about seeing it as a top priority.

I have never been killed by someone who came out of afk cloaked in our system. I have never even been in a system where one has killed someone. I have killed 2 in my time in nullsec.

I can't fathom why anyone thinks they're a problem. If they end up in your system, just move next door. If your too scared to move from one system to another then you shouldn't be out in nullsec. If they follow you into the new system you know they're not afk. In which case, chase them.

The problem with AFK cloaking is the AFK part. If they actually had to be playing while camping a system it would be fine.

Was it you I saw dock in 9DQ in a ratting boat the other day when I showed up. Was it you who whined in local because I wouldn't leave?

Or was it your other EO mates?

Never been to 0.0.

The fact that those groups of people complain about AFK cloaking is very strong proof that AFK cloaking is a good thing!

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9325240

Might want to fix your story's consistency. vOv

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In another thread he claims he's setup an industry pos in nullsec that magically makes Maelstroms cheaper to produce in null than to say ... import.

because 1% of the population wants to take more from society than they give.

I don't see the act of being AFK and cloaked as the problem. I see the problem as in there is no way to counter the AFK cloaker. He may not be there but he is effecting the game by being AFK in a system while 100% immune to any form of threat whatsoever. And yes...the presence of another player does effect miners and ratters who are legitimately playing the game because they don't know if that cloaked ship is AFK or not. They also don't know if that ship has a cyno or other threats on board. The benefit of being in system whether it be physical or psychological is being granted to a player that is not at his PC and can stay in the system gaining the benefit without ever touching his keyboard.

A probe that scans for cloaked ships to let people know what they have in system is more than enough. It doesn't need to be a scan that gives you a warp in point, just one that gives you a ship type.

In another thread he claims he's setup an industry pos in nullsec that magically makes Maelstroms cheaper to produce in null than to say ... import.

Never been to 0.0.

Because they aren't responding in local and BECAUSE I SAID SO!