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Signal11th
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Posted - 2012.10.23 07:41:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:McDonalds. I've been to this franchise all over the planet and pretty much it is the same. Unless you are in some crap hole that only serves a Big Felafel Meal Deal you could be in the same McDonalds pretty much anywhere.
Welcome to EVE. A homogeneous meh where a bit of eye candy and a few tweaked attributes aside you are in the exact type of place as every other drone doing exactly the same thing.
Every item or service is available a couple of jumps away. Everyone is as equally good at doing pretty much the same things. Technology is just that little bit different in minor ways, but they are effectively the same.
With some minor distribution aside anything relevant and meaningfully in the game is on everyone's doorstep. Need a particular item? It's likely to be right where you need it or a few jumps to Jita. The mechanics are challenge-less. Anything you will want to quickly do is just a training queue away. Choices are meaningless. The question is only how many diminishing returns you want to invest your time in.
Combat should be dynamic, but you have pretty much all the pieces on the board when you get there. Once the archetypal fits are known, the outcome is a close second.
Why the CCP obsessive compulsiveness with balance? Where is the chaos? Where is the choice?
Some examplesGǪ
Billions of people in the known universe and there is no innovation - Why does every ship have to be so uniform with minor tweaking of accepted fits? Why donGÇÖt they all have subsystems to foster innovation? Or even the ability to re-assign slots?
Systems strewn across the galaxy and there is no randomness of space GÇô Why are resources effectively equal? Why arenGÇÖt some other parts of the galaxy more ore rich? Why not some with ice? Why has scarcity not invigorated trade or warfare?
Where is the specialisation? - Why is everyone equally good at refining? Why is everyone equally good at manufacturing?
A dynamic universe is a healthy universe. I see thousands of worlds where people are running numbers at the margins like ten thousand others. The few who have found a way to differentiate or who can meta game are Kings.
I say, we should unleash the chaos and if required the madness.
CCP - pour in the sand.
Everybody knows this already but they don't want to admit it because you will shatter their illusion of space leetness against the raging hordes of HKO players.
As you can see from my NPC corp now I've left 0.0 it's dull,boring and uninteresting and has been for a couple of years. What made my mind up was I was flying in NC space and someone lit a cyno up at a celestial so I flew to have a look but when I got there I couldn't even be arsed to shoot him much to his suprise.
I just gave him a "fly safe" and carried on my way. When this happens it's time for a break which is what i'm doing now in fact. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.24 11:57:00 -
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Keno Skir wrote:Agree with earlier post. If EvE is getting boring it is either a personal imagination / motivation issue or just not the game for you. However your OP makes little actual sense. The possibility for individuality in training in EvE is massive compared to most other games.
If CCP made a boring game nobody would play it for long.
Of course they would, it's called a habit. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.24 12:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SandBox games are only as Boring as you make them. Simple as that. This. That.
Or the other..which is some people are easily pleased.... God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 07:54:00 -
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Casirio wrote:If you want to be stuck in some fixed class, grind quests, and have your game content spoon fed then go play anything but Eve. You wont find a game that allows you to actually do what you want to do like in Eve. You obviously just dont like MMOs then and arent going to be happy anywhere.
Which is pretty much what EVE does as well but just in a much more subtle,clever way. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:29:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:he has a point
in ccps eyes to balance eve is heas become very boring, very very boring
i barley play anymore, in december, i doubt ill resub tbfh
In regards to this I myself only login now to change skills or to chat, I love EVE (or parts of it) but I do find the whole experience as quite mundane and tedious. Don't get me wrong I've quit playing EVE but I won't be unsubbing.
In meaning mundane I'm saying there isn't really anything to do in EVE that is exciting (obviously barring PVP slightly)
You want to run missions, fair enough but they are static, you play out the same routine time after time. You want to explore ok go do it but you'll only ever find the same stuff time after time. You want to play the market go for it but it's the same thing over and over again.
There isn't any spontaneity in the "game" nothing make you go WTF, ohh thats new I wonder what that is. Now CCP cover this over by having a really steep learning curve which keeps your mind off it for a fair amount of time. When you're new you spend most of your time learning about stuff that you ignore the fact when you have learn't it, all it enables you to do is to do something a little bit quicker than before without actually changing the frame or the context of the game.
Anyone who mentions this on the forums or in channels is automatically accused of not finding a niche or lacking imagination but if anything the exact opposite is true in my case it's because I don't want to find a niche and if anything I have too much imagination, I'm not interested in the mundane or the repetative or the "balanced" you get that in real life a plenty.
Why do people play games in the first place? It's for an escape .. what happens to that escape when its becomes as boring as real life, where is the impetus to play to forget your real life woes??
Now EVE's great and only redeeming feature is PVP but what happens to a player that gets bored of that?? Well when that happens he either quits or goes like myself dormant until something changes radically to bring them back.
The player has the choice of joining a 0.0 alliance and grinding and here it is again mundanely either winning or losing a system using predeterminded timers which you then wait for to count down and wait for the opposites side fleet to jump in and then fight in TIDI at 10% for the next 1-3 hours. Do this for long enough and you will even get bored of 0.0.
So that leaves you with either FW, Wormholes or a specialist unit like RnK/Mercenary band. Myself when I come back will be choosing wormholes.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that in the time I've been playing EVE nothing really has changed, 0.0 has stagnated into a couple of super blocks again and good for them CCP, put the framework and incentive for these big groups to flourish and thats precisley what has happened. Good for a few at the top boring for the rest.
I think I have the ability to walk around a cabin somehow, humm that will be interesting for all of 2 mins.
The game needs way more content and has done for a number of years but for some reason people get hung up on balancing and somehow because someone has managed to collect 10k players into an alliance it's somehow unfair on the rest.
You might say well you're bored, you lack the intelligence to make the game interesting for yourself but I'm not the only one, I don't know hundreds of people in EVE I know a small number but even in that small number I know people who have unsubbed due to the same reasons I've taken a break and in such a small group that percentage should be worrying God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:34:00 -
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svenska flicka wrote:EVE fun factor depends on what you do and whom you do it with.
I ask again, soloing in a dead lowsec system in gallente space in a 1man corp is like asking why the pie taste **** after you took a dump in it.
Is it?? Just by saying that you relegated EVE to the back and emphasied more on the social aspect with you're friends, which would imply you could be kicking a bag o' shite around a field with the same people and you would still be having fun. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:47:00 -
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svenska flicka wrote:Signal11th wrote:svenska flicka wrote:EVE fun factor depends on what you do and whom you do it with.
I ask again, soloing in a dead lowsec system in gallente space in a 1man corp is like asking why the pie taste **** after you took a dump in it. Is it?? Just by saying that you relegated EVE to the back and emphasied more on the social aspect with you're friends, which would imply you could be kicking a bag o' shite around a field with the same people and you would still be having fun thus removing the need to actually be on EVE in the first place. Your argument made no sense whatsoever. WHy play call of duty? why play WoW? I don't know but I do know one thing... millions and more millions do it. Also I hear billions play football when they could play tetris by themselves.
The argument is that the social aspect of EVE should not be the only reason to log into it. Yes it's a MMO so by it's very design its run by social dynamics but they has to be other reasons to log in and play otherwise like I mentioned above as soon as something else comes along offering something different you leave.
You say football, well you play football because you enjoy it and play with or without friends what happens when you don;t enjoy it anymore? you stop playing obviously. EVE unlike footbal is dynamic so it has the chance to change to stop you becoming bored and in that it needs to change or include more content and not just rely on the social aspect keeping things ticking along. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:54:00 -
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svenska flicka
And EVE offers something at a quality no other MMO does, that is a fact, so then you come back [:lol: wrote:
Obviously social aspect is a huge thing, do you expect to do arenas in WoW solo? do endgame raids solo? If you want to play by yourself or with people doing things you do not enjoy... in a sandbox (mostly...) You can only blame yourself!
And what is this thing that EVE offers that no other MMO does? Funny I remember playing Ultima Online what 15 or more years ago and that from what memory serves me offered exactly the saem sort of things that EVE offers me.
Again you're under the weird reasoning that someone who complains about being bored somehow wants to play by themself? Where in my argument have I said that? What I said is that the social aspect is the only thing that in the last 6 months actually kept my logging on but the actual content that I'm doing is repetitive and boring.
The group of people I have fallen in with as I said above been the only reason I've been logging in. My vent which wasn't really a vent just a thought is trying to point out that whilst I'm disillusioned with EVE at the moment it's still a great game which I hope when something different happens with it I shall start playing regulary again instead of just logging on to chat. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |

Signal11th
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Posted - 2013.02.25 09:01:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Because it's the other players that add meaning and variety...try playing with them.
Not this tired old argument again. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
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