Originally by: Fragm

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Burn Eden has been contracted to stage in central Curse area.

2 Weeks into our contract BE have already calmed over 5 systems in central curse and are continuing to clense the area....

We are the strike force for a new forming alliance that are looking to move into this space ........ that is the only part of our contract i can reveal at this time.

This post is to keep BE fan club members updated on our internal affairs ..........................

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Originally by: Flourite

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Originally by: Fragm

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Burn Eden has been contracted to stage in central Curse area.

2 Weeks into our contract BE have already calmed over 5 systems in central curse and are continuing to clense the area....

We are the strike force for a new forming alliance that are looking to move into this space ........ that is the only part of our contract i can reveal at this time.

This post is to keep BE fan club members updated on our internal affairs ..........................

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Err. Is it time to Laff now?.

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Originally by: crice

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Amazing all these peeps that are trying to claim Curse when there is nobody there? Why didn't you come try when the CA was around... OH wait..

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Originally by: Alowishus

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WTS: WCS BPO in HLW

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Actually there are people in Curse.

Burn Eden started trying to gank npc hunters and in the 2 weeks they've gotten what, 2x noobs from my corp.

They learned one thing while they were away from us tho: when we go after them, they better run.

Fagm please unplug your keyboard and throw it away. You can play Eve just as well without it and you won't even humiliate yourself by speaking! Now that's a great idea, don't ya think?

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Originally by: Mr Popov

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Actually there are people in Curse.

Burn Eden started trying to gank npc hunters and in the 2 weeks they've gotten what, 2x noobs from my corp.

They learned one thing while they were away from us tho: when we go after them, they better run.

Fagm please unplug your keyboard and throw it away. You can play Eve just as well without it and you won't even humiliate yourself by speaking! Now that's a great idea, don't ya think?

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True story, I played EVE for 3 hours with dead batteries in my wireless keyboard

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Originally by: Fragm

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Burn Eden has been contracted to stage in central Curse area.

2 Weeks into our contract BE have already calmed over 5 systems in central curse and are continuing to clense the area....

We are the strike force for a new forming alliance that are looking to move into this space ........ that is the only part of our contract i can reveal at this time.

This post is to keep BE fan club members updated on our internal affairs ..........................

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Originally by: Khaerie

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Define calmed down. We had no troubles in our area until you entered. Also, why would you claim calmed down when you mostly sit in a station and/or log off?

I'm sure you will take this as a slam and no doubt someone is eagerly awaiting to start slamming me for speaking up.

I just would like someone, anyone, to tell me how Burn Eden can claim to "calm down" an area that was not even at war and from inside of a station.

Also, what is this about a contract? Your claim was we shot at you first and broke a Nap, yet your own member plainly stated to me that you had no intention of keeping a Nap in the first place. In fact, there is no NAP with you and Stain so where you came up with that logic is beyond me. So what is this purpose of your war?

You might also want to look over the map, you are not IN CENTRAL of curse and the areas you are stating to have "calmed", again, I'll stress, had no problems in them in the first place.

Okay, so maybe you are not talking about the sectors we have patrolled, maybe you can list the sectors you claim to be calming?

For that matter, am I the only one that finds it wierd that a pirate corp claims to calm anything?

Hmm...managed to go for several weeks without giving anyone spam material. I guess it is my turn for the spam fest.

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Originally by: Hastrabull

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Edited by: Hastrabull on 29/03/2005 19:20:33

Originally by: Fragm

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Burn Eden has been contracted to stage in central Curse area.

2 Weeks into our contract BE have already calmed over 5 systems in central curse and are continuing to clense the area....

We are the strike force for a new forming alliance that are looking to move into this space ........ that is the only part of our contract i can reveal at this time.

This post is to keep BE fan club members updated on our internal affairs ..........................

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As i remember u guys from Vale Of silent ur main tactics was to put as many WCS's onto the raven as possible and wait for lonely ships to gank.

Btw ill bring WCS bpo and will start selling in HLW and i will do it especially for you.

And i dont believe you even touched forces claiming curse right now. You guys are to pathetic.

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Originally by: mute

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Sad but true BE have and will never be any thread.
U all are boring to fight and will always be ganker group then pro pvp fighters that u are so trying to be.
Everytime we come after u guys are 150km away or on SS with ya vigils to scout for lonly kills.

Who is really that dump paying u guys for nothing ?

and btw there is no alliance trying to claim Curse.
Curse is more like home for thouse who like to fight.
So welcome to our PVP heaven i know u will enjoy your stay since every pilot in there love to fight.
Just bring friends so i dont need to see u cry about numbers everyday like m00 does in local.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: mute

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Sad but true BE have and will never be any thread.
U all are boring to fight and will always be ganker group then pro pvp fighters that u are so trying to be.
Everytime we come after u guys are 150km away or on SS with ya vigils to scout for lonly kills.

Who is really that dump paying u guys for nothing ?

and btw there is no alliance trying to claim Curse.
Curse is more like home for thouse who like to fight.
So welcome to our PVP heaven i know u will enjoy your stay since every pilot in there love to fight.
Just bring friends so i dont need to see u cry about numbers everyday like m00 does in local.

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Please tells us your optimal range and we will be sure to warp in to your blob at that, to make it easier for you. I understand PVP might be a difficult area, but I will do my best to make it as easy as possible for you to at least get some kills.

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Mr Popov

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Actually there are people in Curse.

Burn Eden started trying to gank npc hunters and in the 2 weeks they've gotten what, 2x noobs from my corp.

They learned one thing while they were away from us tho: when we go after them, they better run.

Fagm please unplug your keyboard and throw it away. You can play Eve just as well without it and you won't even humiliate yourself by speaking! Now that's a great idea, don't ya think?

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True story, I played EVE for 3 hours with dead batteries in my wireless keyboard

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\o/

Next time I fight m0o I should also try not speaking. They have a weird effect on me.

Anyways, I have a plan:

If we buy up ALL the warp core stabs in curse, Burn Eden will flee because of their lack of "BE modules".

I'll buy all the stabs in the hlw area, Shinra will buy all the stabs in d87 area and the russians will buy all the stabs in lj- area.

Muhahahaha they will cower with no stabs!!! Mwahaha!!

Anyways...fagm is a fool to think he can even touch the forces that live in curse.

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Originally by: Fragm

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We are the strike force for a new forming alliance that are looking to move into this space

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Edited by: Alowishus on 29/03/2005 19:59:36
WTB: BE Faction Ship with WCS Hardpoints and WCS strength bonus

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Edited by: Alowishus on 29/03/2005 19:59:36
WTB: BE Faction Ship with WCS Hardpoints and WCS strength bonus

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Originally by: Sochin

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Edited by: Alowishus on 29/03/2005 19:59:36
WTB: BE Faction Ship with WCS Hardpoints and WCS strength bonus

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Hey, that was my joke!

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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I appreciate you limited sense of humor, I'm sure you wre trying to be funny. However, we loose so few ships that its not necessary for us to buy and stabs. Amazingly some of you guys actually wear them too (I kid you not) and we have plenty spare in all our corp hangers. Anyway, we encountered some Collective people and killed them. Do you expect us to just let you go about npc hunting and not gank you? While I'm more than sure you would extend us the same courtesy, we are just bad people! Dont give frag ideas about touching people! Please, check out our recent kills on www.eve-kills.com. Find me a corporation that gets more kills than us and is not at least double our size.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Thanks for the hugs and kisses masta killa. Ill be sure to pass them on to all the helpless people we gank next time more than one ships come along and we all have to safespot. Perhaps you could give us some interceptor 1v1 advice too, that would be spiffing.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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There is no real way to fight BE

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Originally by: Heinky

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Funny to see people talk about us not beeing "pro" pvpers ( as mute stated) and no good.

Most of the people talking in this thread about how lame we are using stabs and that people make fun of how bad we are, really have to look at them selfs, How come u guys the "pro" pvpers cant get us ? u know we use stabs but still u are not good enuff to counter our "atteck and run" tactics, whats your reason for that ? our tactics is so lame? = works well.

U say we dont fight fair, still u never show up unless u outnumber us, u say people are stupied to hire us coz they dont gain anything from it.

We are a small corp maybe 5 active a day average , we are killers and we are good at it, if people wanna hire us to do damage they will get a job well done, we had the stain conntract and now this one, in this month so far we have had 103 bs kills and 3x more smaller ship kills ( proove eve-kills) doesnt matter if those are ganks or not thats are really good number for 5 active pilots a day. So basicly no matter what u guys say , we will always come out on the top.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Alowishus

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There is no real way to fight BE

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Nuff said really.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Also, what is with your contastant forum *****ing, followed up by a "lets be Friends" eve mail saying how you have no beef with me.

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Heinky

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Funny to see people talk about us not beeing "pro" pvpers ( as mute stated) and no good.

Most of the people talking in this thread about how lame we are using stabs and that people make fun of how bad we are, really have to look at them selfs, How come u guys the "pro" pvpers cant get us ? u know we use stabs but still u are not good enuff to counter our "atteck and run" tactics, whats your reason for that ? our tactics is so lame? = works well.

U say we dont fight fair, still u never show up unless u outnumber us, u say people are stupied to hire us coz they dont gain anything from it.

We are a small corp maybe 5 active a day average , we are killers and we are good at it, if people wanna hire us to do damage they will get a job well done, we had the stain conntract and now this one, in this month so far we have had 103 bs kills and 3x more smaller ship kills ( proove eve-kills) doesnt matter if those are ganks or not thats are really good number for 5 active pilots a day. So basicly no matter what u guys say , we will always come out on the top.

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How can we not bring a group of people against you when we need -six- scramblers to scramble each of your ravens? It's a bit pointless to fight someone who will just warp away if he thinks he'll lose, don't you think?

Complain in help chan or corp chat, not here plz

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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I'm sure you know a stilleto can weild -6 strength. You know excatly what you need to scramble us, yet its almost never done.

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Originally by: Graelyn

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"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"

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Quote:

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[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567

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Originally by: Heinky

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Funny to see people talk about us not beeing "pro" pvpers ( as mute stated) and no good.

Most of the people talking in this thread about how lame we are using stabs and that people make fun of how bad we are, really have to look at them selfs, How come u guys the "pro" pvpers cant get us ? u know we use stabs but still u are not good enuff to counter our "atteck and run" tactics, whats your reason for that ? our tactics is so lame? = works well.

U say we dont fight fair, still u never show up unless u outnumber us, u say people are stupied to hire us coz they dont gain anything from it.

We are a small corp maybe 5 active a day average , we are killers and we are good at it, if people wanna hire us to do damage they will get a job well done, we had the stain conntract and now this one, in this month so far we have had 103 bs kills and 3x more smaller ship kills ( proove eve-kills) doesnt matter if those are ganks or not thats are really good number for 5 active pilots a day. So basicly no matter what u guys say , we will always come out on the top.

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Originally by: Graelyn

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"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"

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Quote:

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[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567

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Originally by: Malken

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lol only 103 kills?

i think i did more pods then that in 30days and then im not counting the ships

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Originally by: mute

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Originally by: Heinky

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Funny to see people talk about us not beeing "pro" pvpers ( as mute stated) and no good.

Most of the people talking in this thread about how lame we are using stabs and that people make fun of how bad we are, really have to look at them selfs, How come u guys the "pro" pvpers cant get us ? u know we use stabs but still u are not good enuff to counter our "atteck and run" tactics, whats your reason for that ? our tactics is so lame? = works well.


U say we dont fight fair, still u never show up unless u outnumber us, u say people are stupied to hire us coz they dont gain anything from it.

We are a small corp maybe 5 active a day average , we are killers and we are good at it, if people wanna hire us to do damage they will get a job well done, we had the stain conntract and now this one, in this month so far we have had 103 bs kills and 3x more smaller ship kills ( proove eve-kills) doesnt matter if those are ganks or not thats are really good number for 5 active pilots a day. So basicly no matter what u guys say , we will always come out on the top.

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err? Did i say we where pro pvp fighters? NO
U guys are acting like u are so pro and are doing so much damage wich is long way from being true.
I aint pro i just LOVE to fight in eve that makes this game fun and i really dont care if i get blown up since i will be back in field within 5min. I really dont see the fun wasteing torps/cruiser from 150km range knowing u will not kill the target since u dont have it warpscrampled.

Your contract in curse is just a spin. No one is that dump to pay for u to be there. I did take a look at your killboard and i see u are not doing any dmg to that new alliance who did move up there to have fun. U are basicly just ganking everybody u get alone and not just fighting that one alliance since we got all other alliance on that killborad of yours. If i had paid u i would not be happy about your work :)

And for the record i alone kill more ship in this month then all your corp toghether so i would say that dude who are paying u is paying u for nothing. U may think u are doing a damg to an alliance with only 103 kills per month we who been playing this game for 2 years just laugh at that number. Thouse 103 are random kills from every alliance ingame so where is the damge u are doing to that alliance ?

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Originally by: Alowishus

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There are two kinds of PvPer in Eve. On one hand you have the true warriors who joined the game because of the game, liking the concept of PvP but not just playing to get kills from the start. They like the genre, they like the backstory, they like the races, they like the ships. They are old school, they have setups that can tank, kill and tackle and get in your face, they rarely use WCS, maybe on a deffensless EW or gankship but never on their pride and joy flagship. They aren't afraid to use named or Tech 2 gear and they can fly ships besides Ravens.

Then there's the other kind. The new school PvPer. They are bored with CounterStrike and joined the game to kill people and feel better about not knowing what a vagina feels like. They brag. They accuse people of blobbing. The kind of kills they get wouldn't even gratify an old school PvPer, wouldn't even be worth mentioning.

Does BE get kills? Yes.
Is there such thing as lame kills? Yes.
Are BE's tactics as lame as having to hump a vacuum to get any? Yes.

I rest my case.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Khaerie

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Define calmed down. We had no troubles in our area until you entered. Also, why would you claim calmed down when you mostly sit in a station and/or log off?

I'm sure you will take this as a slam and no doubt someone is eagerly awaiting to start slamming me for speaking up.

I just would like someone, anyone, to tell me how Burn Eden can claim to "calm down" an area that was not even at war and from inside of a station.

Also, what is this about a contract? Your claim was we shot at you first and broke a Nap, yet your own member plainly stated to me that you had no intention of keeping a Nap in the first place. In fact, there is no NAP with you and Stain so where you came up with that logic is beyond me. So what is this purpose of your war?

You might also want to look over the map, you are not IN CENTRAL of curse and the areas you are stating to have "calmed", again, I'll stress, had no problems in them in the first place.

Okay, so maybe you are not talking about the sectors we have patrolled, maybe you can list the sectors you claim to be calming?

For that matter, am I the only one that finds it wierd that a pirate corp claims to calm anything?

Hmm...managed to go for several weeks without giving anyone spam material. I guess it is my turn for the spam fest.

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* *****s neck *

Firstly, Celes and RA came into curse. Some of our friends asked us not to attack you so you could go fight them - this was the NAP. We obliged. Instead, you come and attack us, but fail to kill anything. So we tell you we are going to attack you, attack you and kill some of your ships. Every single time we engage you, we beat you. Outnumbered 2,3 or 4 to 1 it doesnt matter, we still will. You have yet to kill a single one of our battleships but we have killed over 7 billion isk worth of your stuff. The simple fact is we are better than you. Every time you put together any sort of force, we enage you and kill at least some of you before the rest leave.

Remember us > you.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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There are two kinds of PvPer in Eve. On one hand you have the true warriors who joined the game because of the game, liking the concept of PvP but not just playing to get kills from the start. They like the genre, they like the backstory, they like the races, they like the ships. They are old school, they have setups that can tank, kill and tackle and get in your face, they rarely use WCS, maybe on a deffensless EW or gankship but never on their pride and joy flagship. They aren't afraid to use named or Tech 2 gear and they can fly ships besides Ravens.

Then there's the other kind. The new school PvPer. They are bored with CounterStrike and joined the game to kill people and feel better about not knowing what a vagina feels like. They brag. They accuse people of blobbing. The kind of kills they get wouldn't even gratify an old school PvPer, wouldn't even be worth mentioning.

Does BE get kills? Yes.
Is there such thing as lame kills? Yes.
Are BE's tactics as lame as having to hump a vacuum to get any? Yes.

I rest my case.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Are we better than you? Yes

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Please be more specific. Are you saying Shadow Company is a better pvp corp than Burn Eden? (nothing personal FC btw!)

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Ok lets have a fight. Name a time and place. 10 ppl each sound good?

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Ok lets have a fight. Name a time and place. 10 ppl each sound good?

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Arranged fights are stupid. Why not have it on SiSi and then circle jerk eachother afterwards? Arranged fights are something CounterStrike clans would do. I'm sorry, I don't play Eve that way. I like to keep some sembalance of realism, two sides in a real war wouldn't have an arranged fight.

You know where we live. Come get us if you want to fight.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Please be more specific. Are you saying Shadow Company is a better pvp corp than Burn Eden? (nothing personal FC btw!)

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Originally by: Stetu

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Edited by: Stetu on 29/03/2005 22:02:32
You guys make me laugh at the amount of smack you throw down.

Fact is, you know we don't always run,

You know we've spanked each place we went till it was so dead that there was no kills to be had that contained any loot better than "Large Armor Repairer, Mega Pulse 1, and Radio Crystal L"

You all know that we have the best strategy in eve.

We know we're the best, and richest pirates in eve.

My evidence: www.eve-kills.com

One pilot is in the top 15, another is in the top 30, our corp is in the top 15.

Numbers don't lie, go check it out for yourself.

And stop smacking just cause we make m0o, Shinra, ATUK, and any other wanna be pirate mega corp look like noobs because we can lock down an area with 5 ships and you need 60 to do it.

Please.

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Originally by: Stetu

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Edited by: Stetu on 29/03/2005 22:02:32
You guys make me laugh at the amount of smack you throw down.

Fact is, you know we don't always run,

You know we've spanked each place we went till it was so dead that there was no kills to be had that contained any loot better than "Large Armor Repairer, Mega Pulse 1, and Radio Crystal L"

You all know that we have the best strategy in eve.

We know we're the best, and richest pirates in eve.

My evidence: www.eve-kills.com

One pilot is in the top 15, another is in the top 30, our corp is in the top 15.

Numbers don't lie, go check it out for yourself.

And stop smacking just cause we make m0o, Shinra, ATUK, and any other wanna be pirate mega corp look like noobs because we can lock down an area with 5 ships and you need 60 to do it.

Please.

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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists

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if there would be a godmode in this game, im sure that girls would use it..

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Originally by: Hast

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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists

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if there would be a godmode in this game, im sure that girls would use it..

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once again your sig fits perfectly to them


Monkey Island 4tw btw

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Originally by: Sochin

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Edited by: Sochin on 29/03/2005 23:01:44

Originally by: Stetu

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Edited by: Stetu on 29/03/2005 22:02:32
You guys make me laugh at the amount of smack you throw down.

Fact is, you know we don't always run,

You know we've spanked each place we went till it was so dead that there was no kills to be had that contained any loot better than "Large Armor Repairer, Mega Pulse 1, and Radio Crystal L"

You all know that we have the best strategy in eve.

We know we're the best, and richest pirates in eve.

My evidence: www.eve-kills.com

One pilot is in the top 15, another is in the top 30, our corp is in the top 15.

Numbers don't lie, go check it out for yourself.

And stop smacking just cause we make m0o, Shinra, ATUK, and any other wanna be pirate mega corp look like noobs because we can lock down an area with 5 ships and you need 60 to do it.

Please.

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Much to learn, you still have...

BTW, m0o has four pilots in the top 10 on the BoB killboard for all time and 7 in the top 10 for this month. Having one pilot in the top 15 on EVE-Kills really isnt terribly impressive.

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Hast

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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists

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if there would be a godmode in this game, im sure that girls would use it..

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once again your sig fits perfectly to them


Monkey Island 4tw btw

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Monkey Island wasn't fun enough to make me play it back in the day :/

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis 4tw btw

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Originally by: Stetu

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Originally by: Sochin

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Edited by: Sochin on 29/03/2005 23:01:44

Originally by: Stetu

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Edited by: Stetu on 29/03/2005 22:02:32
You guys make me laugh at the amount of smack you throw down.

Fact is, you know we don't always run,

You know we've spanked each place we went till it was so dead that there was no kills to be had that contained any loot better than "Large Armor Repairer, Mega Pulse 1, and Radio Crystal L"

You all know that we have the best strategy in eve.

We know we're the best, and richest pirates in eve.

My evidence: www.eve-kills.com

One pilot is in the top 15, another is in the top 30, our corp is in the top 15.

Numbers don't lie, go check it out for yourself.

And stop smacking just cause we make m0o, Shinra, ATUK, and any other wanna be pirate mega corp look like noobs because we can lock down an area with 5 ships and you need 60 to do it.

Please.

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Much to learn, you still have...

BTW, m0o has four pilots in the top 10 on the BoB killboard for all time and 7 in the top 10 for this month. Having one pilot in the top 15 on EVE-Kills really isnt terribly impressive.

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How can you say you're on the top 10 ON YOUR OWN KILLBOARD.

We compete with such people that are normal fighters in eve on eve-kills, but you can only compete with friends. I'd be the 2nd killer in the world if i compared myself to the posted burn eden kills. Kickass would be godlike, and of course Burn Eden would be the best. Idiot, compare yourself to someone else who isn't in love with you and maybe then you'll see how bad you are compared to the old/real m0o.

Hibernation my ass.

Oh and btw, we are the best still no matter what. And we love covert ops frigs, we will just warp to the otherside of the gate so your slow frigate can slowboat at 496 m/s 300km!

WOOT!

We own all tactics all your space are belong to us.

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Originally by: Stetu

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We compare ourselfs to everyone in the game, besides you say you compare it to the best, yet we're not on there, probably because you somehow mixed up best and noobs. And you should pay attention to us considering we wtfpwn ATUK every time we see them, and you guys never really seem to want to fight. I remember you engaging us, warping off to a safe, me going up a couple systems, your ENTIRE FLEET chasing me. Yeah sounds like m0o to me. Little noobs running around like idiots.

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Originally by: Stetu

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We compare ourselfs to everyone in the game, besides you say you compare it to the best, yet we're not on there, probably because you somehow mixed up best and noobs. And you should pay attention to us considering we wtfpwn ATUK every time we see them, and you guys never really seem to want to fight. I remember you engaging us, warping off to a safe, me going up a couple systems, your ENTIRE FLEET chasing me. Yeah sounds like m0o to me. Little noobs running around like idiots.

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Originally by: Stetu

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The only reason why everyone talks smack is they're jealous. The baby never cries for what he's already got.

We win, stop lying to yourselves.

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Originally by: Stetu

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We win, stop lying to yourselves.

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Originally by: Stetu

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Edited by: Stetu on 29/03/2005 22:02:32
there was no kills to be had that contained any loot better than "Large Armor Repairer, Mega Pulse 1, and Radio Crystal L"

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Originally by: Beringe

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I've said so before, and I'll say it again:

BURN EDEN are clearly the best PVP corp out there. They wtfpwn anyone so bad that it is worth posting their gloriously predictable activities on the forum. They are the masters of the Raven setup, and their linguistic skills can stun a horse from 100 feet.

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Originally by: Domalais

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You aren't Celestial Apoc. You never will be.


Give it up.

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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan

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How cute.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Let me summarize BE's tactics.

The Ganks
This is where they jump into a system that has someone NPCing/Mining. This person is probably a n00b and hasn't mastered the art of keeping one eye on local and putting asshats in his address book (ie. you see green squares and you go to a safe). BE jumps in, does a quick scan or maybe just tries to get lucky and warps to the belt. The n00b probably can't even take ONE PvP fitted BS, let alone multipe. He gets scrambled and goes down quickly, hopefully learning a lesson.

The Fleet Hit and Fade
BE will use a lot of Ravens and/or other long range ships with tacklers. They will choose a target in the opposing fleet and tackle him (or hope he is just slow to warp) and pound away at him. Meanwhile, if the opposing force can even hit them at all, they will simply warp out one by one as they take damage. Since BE uses WCS heavily, even if you do get a small, speedy tackler out to their location, they will still get away.

How to fight BE
There is no real way to fight BE and get easy kills unless you have Scorps or Blackbirds with a full rack of scrambling gear and the luck to be in range. The other option is to use a Minmatar Inty with 1MWD and 3x Scramblers. Since Minmatar Inty pilots are rare, this is probably unlikely.

Your only real options are to use these two ships:

Damp Scorp with 4+ WCS
Snipe Geddon with 4+ WCS

If you start taking damage, warp out. In this case, whoever holds the battlefield at the end would be the winner. The only way to fight cowards is to also be a coward. Most battles will end in stalemate with no kills. It's unfortunate that this type of worthless fighting was discovered and that the only counter is to adopt similar tactics. BE tactics can be analogized like this: retarded midgets on rollerskates who roll up to a bunch of giants, throw some rocks, and then quickly skate away. It may be fun but it's also very sad.

Always be prepared for much whining and at the same time, claims of l337ness, by BE.

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Originally by: Stetu

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The only reason why everyone talks smack is they're jealous. The baby never cries for what he's already got.

We win, stop lying to yourselves.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Hastrabull

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Edited by: Hastrabull on 29/03/2005 19:20:33

Originally by: Fragm

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Burn Eden has been contracted to stage in central Curse area.

2 Weeks into our contract BE have already calmed over 5 systems in central curse and are continuing to clense the area....

We are the strike force for a new forming alliance that are looking to move into this space ........ that is the only part of our contract i can reveal at this time.

This post is to keep BE fan club members updated on our internal affairs ..........................

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As i remember u guys from Vale Of silent ur main tactics was to put as many WCS's onto the raven as possible and wait for lonely ships to gank.

Btw ill bring WCS bpo and will start selling in HLW and i will do it especially for you.

And i dont believe you even touched forces claiming curse right now. You guys are to pathetic.

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You wouldn't happen to be the Supremacy guy who logged of in combat twice against us?

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Edited by: Shin Ra on 30/03/2005 06:46:12
First we were not afraid to undock there. We came back to drop off a bunch of loot. We then proceeded to test out tacker setups in space while you guys remained in the station/safe. Big deal! We don't expect you to fight us outnumbered.

Every single time we have encountered ATUK we have spanked them. Equal numbers/outnumbered they lost every time and serioulsy need to work on communication. M0o are a bigger joke. We decided to group up with some of the locals to go fight their gang and we had about the same numbers. They ran towards HED and when we caught them they safed and logged - so much for us running from you Sochin. While that is acceptable under certain circumstances, that is NOT the m0o of old. The directors agree, the general eve population agrees. 2 of our battleships were camping a gate. One warped to safe to go afk for a sec. Only then did the 7 m0o members come in and start to fight the lone bs (+ tackler). The all knowing m0o members could not understand how the raven got out. Do you have 6 stabs on? the asked! I guess they dont know what a neutriliser is. Im sure you are just as good as us at ganking, but when it comes to fighting you are but a shdow of your former selves.

Shin Ra, the character, is 3-4 months old. I have 502 sp in gunnery, but several million in navigation. A n00b to some people. There reason they die to so many others. Clearly you have not faught us, cause nobody else here seems to be criticizing my skill as a frigate pilot. I know how you would like the pvp to be determined by who has the most sp in gunnery, but that wont work when fighting us.

Burn Eden was never in any alliances. A lot of people in Burn Eden used to be in TFA. Then again a lot of TFA people are now in the corporations slating us here.

I'm glad we are not Celes, they are another corporation trying to fill the shadown of their former glory

To FOE: You claim we had no impact. Yet by the time we left, so few people hung out around JZV area the area was almost dead. Every time you came to fight us, you lost. On recent threads many of your own people have said our kill ratio is insane and we do the damage where it hurts most.

Everyone says out setups are lame, yet all you people still get killed day after day by them. All I can say is, if you are complaining about our setups now, just wait till the EW nerf. You won't want to be in the same region as us.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Edited by: Shin Ra on 30/03/2005 06:46:12
First we were not afraid to undock there. We came back to drop off a bunch of loot. We then proceeded to test out tacker setups in space while you guys remained in the station/safe. Big deal! We don't expect you to fight us outnumbered.

Every single time we have encountered ATUK we have spanked them. Equal numbers/outnumbered they lost every time and serioulsy need to work on communication. M0o are a bigger joke. We decided to group up with some of the locals to go fight their gang and we had about the same numbers. They ran towards HED and when we caught them they safed and logged - so much for us running from you Sochin. While that is acceptable under certain circumstances, that is NOT the m0o of old. The directors agree, the general eve population agrees. 2 of our battleships were camping a gate. One warped to safe to go afk for a sec. Only then did the 7 m0o members come in and start to fight the lone bs (+ tackler). The all knowing m0o members could not understand how the raven got out. Do you have 6 stabs on? the asked! I guess they dont know what a neutriliser is. Im sure you are just as good as us at ganking, but when it comes to fighting you are but a shdow of your former selves.

Shin Ra, the character, is 3-4 months old. I have 502 sp in gunnery, but several million in navigation. A n00b to some people. There reason they die to so many others. Clearly you have not faught us, cause nobody else here seems to be criticizing my skill as a frigate pilot. I know how you would like the pvp to be determined by who has the most sp in gunnery, but that wont work when fighting us.

Burn Eden was never in any alliances. A lot of people in Burn Eden used to be in TFA. Then again a lot of TFA people are now in the corporations slating us here.

I'm glad we are not Celes, they are another corporation trying to fill the shadown of their former glory

To FOE: You claim we had no impact. Yet by the time we left, so few people hung out around JZV area the area was almost dead. Every time you came to fight us, you lost. On recent threads many of your own people have said our kill ratio is insane and we do the damage where it hurts most.

Everyone says out setups are lame, yet all you people still get killed day after day by them. All I can say is, if you are complaining about our setups now, just wait till the EW nerf. You won't want to be in the same region as us.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Edited by: Shin Ra on 30/03/2005 06:46:12
First we were not afraid to undock there. We came back to drop off a bunch of loot. We then proceeded to test out tacker setups in space while you guys remained in the station/safe. Big deal! We don't expect you to fight us outnumbered.

Every single time we have encountered ATUK we have spanked them. Equal numbers/outnumbered they lost every time and serioulsy need to work on communication. M0o are a bigger joke. We decided to group up with some of the locals to go fight their gang and we had about the same numbers. They ran towards HED and when we caught them they safed and logged - so much for us running from you Sochin. While that is acceptable under certain circumstances, that is NOT the m0o of old. The directors agree, the general eve population agrees. 2 of our battleships were camping a gate. One warped to safe to go afk for a sec. Only then did the 7 m0o members come in and start to fight the lone bs (+ tackler). The all knowing m0o members could not understand how the raven got out. Do you have 6 stabs on? the asked! I guess they dont know what a neutriliser is. Im sure you are just as good as us at ganking, but when it comes to fighting you are but a shdow of your former selves.

Shin Ra, the character, is 3-4 months old. I have 502 sp in gunnery, but several million in navigation. A n00b to some people. There reason they die to so many others. Clearly you have not faught us, cause nobody else here seems to be criticizing my skill as a frigate pilot. I know how you would like the pvp to be determined by who has the most sp in gunnery, but that wont work when fighting us.

Burn Eden was never in any alliances. A lot of people in Burn Eden used to be in TFA. Then again a lot of TFA people are now in the corporations slating us here.

I'm glad we are not Celes, they are another corporation trying to fill the shadown of their former glory

To FOE: You claim we had no impact. Yet by the time we left, so few people hung out around JZV area the area was almost dead. Every time you came to fight us, you lost. On recent threads many of your own people have said our kill ratio is insane and we do the damage where it hurts most.

Everyone says out setups are lame, yet all you people still get killed day after day by them. All I can say is, if you are complaining about our setups now, just wait till the EW nerf. You won't want to be in the same region as us.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Edited by: Shin Ra on 30/03/2005 06:46:12
First we were not afraid to undock there. We came back to drop off a bunch of loot. We then proceeded to test out tacker setups in space while you guys remained in the station/safe. Big deal! We don't expect you to fight us outnumbered.

Every single time we have encountered ATUK we have spanked them. Equal numbers/outnumbered they lost every time and serioulsy need to work on communication. M0o are a bigger joke. We decided to group up with some of the locals to go fight their gang and we had about the same numbers. They ran towards HED and when we caught them they safed and logged - so much for us running from you Sochin. While that is acceptable under certain circumstances, that is NOT the m0o of old. The directors agree, the general eve population agrees. 2 of our battleships were camping a gate. One warped to safe to go afk for a sec. Only then did the 7 m0o members come in and start to fight the lone bs (+ tackler). The all knowing m0o members could not understand how the raven got out. Do you have 6 stabs on? the asked! I guess they dont know what a neutriliser is. Im sure you are just as good as us at ganking, but when it comes to fighting you are but a shdow of your former selves.

Shin Ra, the character, is 3-4 months old. I have 502 sp in gunnery, but several million in navigation. A n00b to some people. There reason they die to so many others. Clearly you have not faught us, cause nobody else here seems to be criticizing my skill as a frigate pilot. I know how you would like the pvp to be determined by who has the most sp in gunnery, but that wont work when fighting us.

Burn Eden was never in any alliances. A lot of people in Burn Eden used to be in TFA. Then again a lot of TFA people are now in the corporations slating us here.

I'm glad we are not Celes, they are another corporation trying to fill the shadown of their former glory

To FOE: You claim we had no impact. Yet by the time we left, so few people hung out around JZV area the area was almost dead. Every time you came to fight us, you lost. On recent threads many of your own people have said our kill ratio is insane and we do the damage where it hurts most.

Everyone says out setups are lame, yet all you people still get killed day after day by them. All I can say is, if you are complaining about our setups now, just wait till the EW nerf. You won't want to be in the same region as us.

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Originally by: Tbone

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we got 3 kill mails i can see of you guys that is not posted on eve-kills for you as deaths.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Edited by: Shin Ra on 30/03/2005 07:43:50

Originally by: Tbone

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we got 3 kill mails i can see of you guys that is not posted on eve-kills for you as deaths.

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The go post them. I'm sure 3 frigate kills is a big deal to you guys.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Hey if you cant fight at long range thats not our problem, don't expect us to warp in at your optimal because you can fit a couple of tracking computers. You have become so used to blob wars that you have forgotten there are other ways to fight. You know our setups, yet you still can't fight us. Our killboards speak for themselves just as loudly. Yes we gank a lot of people. However, we also fight a lot of blobs much bigger than us. Our setups allow this. You guys don't.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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I think you are a bit confused as to what happened. Not to worry, politics was never our strong side. All I can say is, nice pvp setup:

2005.03.28 03:10:00

Victim: Mossquito
Corporation: Celestial Cartel
Destroyed Type: Raven
Solar System: K-QWHE
System Security Level: 0.0

Involved parties:

Name: Stetu
Security Status: -1.5
Corporation: BURN EDEN
Ship Type: Raven
Weapon Type: Unknown

Name: Kickass (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -0.9
Corporation: BURN EDEN
Ship Type: Raven
Weapon Type: Mjolnir Torpedo I

Name: Halod Crane
Security Status: -1.3
Corporation: BURN EDEN
Ship Type: Raven
Weapon Type: Unknown

Name: Frank Moss
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: Celestial Cartel
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown



Destroyed items:

Type: Inferno Torpedo I (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 18

Type: Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I (Fitted - Medium slot)

Type: Auto Targeting System I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Shock 'Limos' Siege Missile Bay I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Auto Targeting System I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Kaikka's Modified X-Large Shield Booster (Fitted - Medium slot)

Type: Inferno Torpedo I (Fitted - High slot)
Quantity: 16

Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay)

Type: Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field (Fitted - Medium slot)

Type: 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher (Fitted - High slot)

Type: ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Domination Siege Missile Launcher (Fitted - High slot)

Type: 'Anointed' I EM Ward Reinforcement (Fitted - Medium slot)

Type: Caldari Navy Control System (Fitted - Low slot)

Type: Ogre I (Drone Bay)

Type: Bane Torpedo I (Cargo)
Quantity: 16

Type: Hunter F.O.F. Cruise Missile I (Cargo)
Quantity: 33

Type: Bane Torpedo I (Cargo)
Quantity: 16

Type: Hunter F.O.F. Cruise Missile I (Cargo)
Quantity: 33

Type: Hunter F.O.F. Cruise Missile I (Cargo)
Quantity: 36

Type: Hunter F.O.F. Cruise Missile I (Cargo)
Quantity: 137

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Originally by: Stetu

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Edited by: Stetu on 29/03/2005 22:02:32
You guys make me laugh at the amount of smack you throw down.

Fact is, you know we don't always run,

You know we've spanked each place we went till it was so dead that there was no kills to be had that contained any loot better than "Large Armor Repairer, Mega Pulse 1, and Radio Crystal L"

You all know that we have the best strategy in eve.

We know we're the best, and richest pirates in eve.

My evidence: www.eve-kills.com

One pilot is in the top 15, another is in the top 30, our corp is in the top 15.

Numbers don't lie, go check it out for yourself.

And stop smacking just cause we make m0o, Shinra, ATUK, and any other wanna be pirate mega corp look like noobs because we can lock down an area with 5 ships and you need 60 to do it.

Please.

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Originally by: OVERCOPES 1

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why do you people let a 4 month n00b like shin ra,who obvisiouly likes to talk a good game but lacks any real skill,wind you people up?

shes a nobody,so take anything she says with a truck load of salt,i find her amusing myself.

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Originally by: Dark Big

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JUST BY LOOKING AT THIS TOPIC I CAN SEE

WE ARE LOVED RRREEEEAALLLY REALLLLY LOVED

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Please
come at us with a nother setup
we are to lazy/stuped to counter it
k thank you
p.s
stop ganking us with your good setup
k thanks

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Originally by: siim

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How come mods never lock Fragm threads

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Originally by: siim

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How come mods never lock Fragm threads

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Originally by: Begottenotmade

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hey guys,

Wow, fighting with fix i really haven't a clue as to who these burn eden guys are. Normaly reading threads you can tell who gets "love" by the hate posts they get on a thread topic. I have no room to talk about them i don't know them. Well that and both information and disinformation is what is wrong with the world as whole today:). One person says one thing while the other says it differently.

I guess my post is about two things.

1. Warp stabs, the only reason i can see people getting pist about these is cuzz it's harder to kill someone they want too. Running around querious I scramble so many people.. wether it's BOB,Shinra or atuk the bottom line is people use stabs. I have tackled some of the best and well pretty sure they were stabbed out. bottom line is people use them.. do they suck yes... nothing we can do about them. maybe not being able to fit them 0.0 ? dunno


2. Fighting..tonight i learned something i should of learned long ago. People want ot live more than die.
So if we bring a group bigger than the NME 9 times out of 10 no matter who it is; the other group being out powered steps down and runs.Trying to insta the hell out of there. Same with us we won't march 6 pilot into blob of 20 to get a fight. Saying that i guess i'm talking about tactics. As fleet memeber or commander. you end up doing what you can to kill more than you lose..right?

So tactics like warping out then back in; This is constantly used by people.First time i saw fleet warp in and out like crazy was the red alliance.. they were in fast lockin gank geddons n just out n in fast. As said only thing vs this is to do it also. Hopign to get tacklers on the right people. Almost always ending in a stalemate... thats what happen that day. I think one cruiser died and that was it. boring, it sucked. However I don't look down on them for using tactics like this. Just part of the game.

Whats frustrating for me is... this game isn't bout 1 vs 1 or my skill vs yours. It seems to be more like "how can I kill you without ever going down"?. I mean, you can't even get a 1 vs 1 without asking in local and making sure you can trust your NME. I guess thats why i will always love game like HW and such.. where you can log on get a heated 1 vs 1 and thats what it is.. your tactics vs someone elses. Not ss till your shure you'll wtfpwn the other group.

lol sorry for the rambling guys!! Just sucks to see 7 pages of flames n such about set ups or tactics. TBH it sucks to watch people Flame things that they do or would try to do given the chance.(noot all tactics) Most people that pvp daily know the role and things that go on. Just like people that use log tactics and yet flame for n hour on forums bout one person doing it to them that got away.

So Basicly sucks to die... great fun and cheers all around for killing.

Sadly people will use whatever means possible for this to happen. Even sadder is the fact that people flame and use the same tactics. It's just a game and people play the way they need to have fun. If you always play to be safe that can't really be fun in the end warp stabbed out. Also if your always worried about what someone else is doing...well then that can't be much fun either.. :)

sorry for the mumbling ;)
Gotten

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Thanks for the hugs and kisses masta killa. Ill be sure to pass them on to all the helpless people we gank next time more than one ships come along and we all have to safespot. Perhaps you could give us some interceptor 1v1 advice too, that would be spiffing.

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Originally by: Guderian

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hi, how is that raven you tried to safe by logging off in mid battle? Oh, thats right, it went pop.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Guderian

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hi, how is that raven you tried to safe by logging off in mid battle? Oh, thats right, it went pop.

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Yeah because Shinra never log in combat. Cough

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Originally by: HyperBaton

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Guderian

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hi, how is that raven you tried to safe by logging off in mid battle? Oh, thats right, it went pop.

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Yeah because Shinra never log in combat. Cough

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Holy **** man, that must have been one HELL of a battle!

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Originally by: Sochin

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Stop bragging about how you "fight" these "big blobs" (four or five ships). Sitting 200km away with 5 warpcores spamming cruise missiles or torpedos that do crap damage isnt fighting, its just harassing.

Your tactics and setups emphasize personal safety over combat effectiveness and versitility. You do this because if you tried to fight normally you would get owned, so you've found a way to get a couple ganks without exposing yourself to much danger. While I congratulate you on finding a tactic that works in for you, I still feel obligated to make fun of your for you lack of overall pvp ability and courage.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Originally by: Sochin

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Stop bragging about how you "fight" these "big blobs" (four or five ships). Sitting 200km away with 5 warpcores spamming cruise missiles or torpedos that do crap damage isnt fighting, its just harassing.

Your tactics and setups emphasize personal safety over combat effectiveness and versitility. You do this because if you tried to fight normally you would get owned, so you've found a way to get a couple ganks without exposing yourself to much danger. While I congratulate you on finding a tactic that works in for you, I still feel obligated to make fun of your for you lack of overall pvp ability and courage.

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Agree 100%. Their most bold pilot is Shin Ra and the extent of her ability is this:

Alt+F1
Aproach
CTRL+Click
Alt+F2
Alt+F3
Run Away

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Originally by: Hastrabull

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Sorry no.
We never got fight with you guys, U were always more then 100km from us in dampening wcsed ravens. When we get close to engage u run away.

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This exactly sums up the problems with PvP in Eve atm. Maybe the can get the nerf bat out like the did with the dual mwd raven.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Yeah because Shinra never log in combat. Cough

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Originally by: Estios

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Seriously, I love the small gang attacking a bigger region and its more EVE's fault than your own that you can run them set ups and operate like that but dont beleive you are a real force in Curse ....you are the Curse Coalition at best k

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Originally by: Graelyn

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"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"

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Quote:

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[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Originally by: Sochin

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Stop bragging about how you "fight" these "big blobs" (four or five ships). Sitting 200km away with 5 warpcores spamming cruise missiles or torpedos that do crap damage isnt fighting, its just harassing.

Your tactics and setups emphasize personal safety over combat effectiveness and versitility. You do this because if you tried to fight normally you would get owned, so you've found a way to get a couple ganks without exposing yourself to much danger. While I congratulate you on finding a tactic that works in for you, I still feel obligated to make fun of your for you lack of overall pvp ability and courage.

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Agree 100%. Their most bold pilot is Shin Ra and the extent of her ability is this:

Alt+F1
Aproach
CTRL+Click
Alt+F2
Alt+F3
Run Away

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Firstly, I find orbit works alot better. Secondly, Its a lot harder than:

Align for safespot
Turn on sensor boosters/tracking computers
Fire some guns
Run away if you take damage

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Originally by: Hastrabull

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2. claiming they are uber, but they are 'uber' cause they are using setups that make their life and ganking easy (dampeners + wcs's on raven with cruise missiles/FOF cruise missiles). This setup makes sure, noone will be able to tackle and hold such a ship long enough to kill it.

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