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E'dyn
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:09:00 -
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I might just give this a shot for some giggles, been thinking of writing a little short story (a beginning of a bigger one) for quite some time now, perfect excuse to do it! |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
423
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:42:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:Kumq uat wrote:I was wondering if my story series would count. I wrote a series for Eve-Pirate awhile ago, fiction, set in the Eve Universe, but it was silly and definatly not canon. Would this be acceptable to enter? Sorry, the entry needs to be a new work. It could be another story in your series, though. By the way, if the new story is non-canon, there's a category for that. Can't be bothered. I am working on my own science fiction series currently. Don't see why you can't accept a piece of work I did awhile ago.
Sorry mate. The reasons for this:
-Works might be considered for publication in EON, and EON prefers new, unpublished works.
-There's a lot of fan fiction out there, and the contest prizes are pretty big. We can't open the doors to the whole past body of work of EVE fan fiction. And picking some arbitrary cut-off date in the past would be messy. It would be good for some people, but bad for others. In other words, arbitrary, and not really fair.
-The idea is to encourage people to write new stuff.  |
Mercfromabove
SKULLDOGS
Unclaimed.
103
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:55:00 -
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i was writing an entire book on Faction warfare. I don't suppose fiction based on fiction (which could seem timeless) would be accepted?
Maybe submit a chapter or something? 
Merc |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
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Posted - 2012.10.24 22:18:00 -
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Mercfromabove wrote:i was writing an entire book on Faction warfare. I don't suppose fiction based on fiction (which could seem timeless) would be accepted? Maybe submit a chapter or something? Merc
Not sure I follow, Merc. A story about somebody writing fiction? Sound OK. As long as it fits the guidelines on the contest page, should be fine. Maybe send me a mail if you're not sure. |
Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
22
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Posted - 2012.10.24 22:37:00 -
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Since we are allowed to submit multiple entries, I was wondering if it'd be okay to submit a two-part story (-ish)?
And by that, I don't mean a way of getting around the strict word-limit, but more of, say, a story about whatever, and then a "follow-up" story that, in example, explains and follows the events strictly following the previous story?
Or should each entry be ("strictly") disjunct - as in, not referring to each other?
In case the above was unclear, three examples:
1) Story A takes place YC 50 and story B in YC 110. B starts out by explaining the outlines of A, and has a subject of the effects of A.
2) Story A is about a person in YC 110-115, and story B is about the same person, in YC 120.
3) Story A is about a person in YC 50, and story B is about this persons now-grown son in YC 110. Again, there might be overlaps (such as, if, in story A, the person has a mighty battle or similar which might make the deed known (locally or throughout New Eden)).
Are either allowed?
Is it okay if story B does not refer to things that a reader might not know (provided the reader hasn't read story A beforehand)?
Maybe I'm jumping the horse, since B might not have enough words for recaps. Better safe than sorry, though. (And while it might be better to ask forgiveness than permission, I'm a stickler for contest rules)
As a side note, I find it both hilarious and ingenious that the contest spans november, at the same time as NaNoWriMo.
Aand a follow-up question: If the story submitted to this contest is 1/10th of the story submitted to NaNoWriMo, does this violate the contest rules (NaNoWriMo does not, if I recall correctly, publish the novel)? |
Kratos Alabel
Paladin Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.10.24 22:49:00 -
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Ok, so i read the pages concerning this and I am a wee-bit confused. The eve official lore part is what is confusing me. Is there a specific topic in eve or can we make up any fictional story to be considered for the graphics card contest. |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
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Posted - 2012.10.24 23:58:00 -
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usrevenge wrote:can we post it to this forum somewhere and just link it ( if the post date is after this date of course.)
Yes, it looks like posting your entry the EVE Fiction section will be OK. But please still send me an EVE mail with a link to the post, so we don't miss it. |
EOH Saint
Eve Online Hold'Em
ISK Six
4
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:01:00 -
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Eve Online Hold'Em Poker (EOH) is excited to sponsor this contest.
Feel free to drop by the oldest gaming establishment in Eve. Poker games running 24/7.
www.EOHPoker.com
In Game Channels:
EOH POKER
EOH GAMES
Eve Forum Link |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:16:00 -
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Dezolf wrote:Since we are allowed to submit multiple entries, I was wondering if it'd be okay to submit a two-part story (-ish)? And by that, I don't mean a way of getting around the strict word-limit, but more of, say, a story about whatever, and then a "follow-up" story that, in example, explains and follows the events strictly following the previous story? Or should each entry be ("strictly") disjunct - as in, not referring to each other? In case the above was unclear, three examples: 1) Story A takes place YC 50 and story B in YC 110. B starts out by explaining the outlines of A, and has a subject of the effects of A. 2) Story A is about a person in YC 110-115, and story B is about the same person, in YC 120. 3) Story A is about a person in YC 50, and story B is about this persons now-grown son in YC 110. Again, there might be overlaps (such as, if, in story A, the person has a mighty battle or similar which might make the deed known (locally or throughout New Eden)). Are either allowed? Is it okay if story B does not refer to things that a reader might not know (provided the reader hasn't read story A beforehand)? Maybe I'm jumping the horse, since B might not have enough words for recaps. Better safe than sorry, though. (And while it might be better to ask forgiveness than permission, I'm a stickler for contest rules) As a side note, I find it both hilarious and ingenious that the contest spans november, at the same time as NaNoWriMo. Aand a follow-up question: If the story submitted to this contest is 1/10th of the story submitted to NaNoWriMo, does this violate the contest rules (NaNoWriMo does not, if I recall correctly, publish the novel)?
First part of your question: Yes, a series of stories is OK. For judging purposes, each one will have to stand independently on its own, in isolation. As if the story were being submitted to a magazine, and the readers are not familiar with the characters or the previous events. (Tough challenge, eh? But the old Sherlock Holmes, H.P. Lovecraft, Conan and Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser stories managed to do it, and yet have some degree of continuity).
Second part of your question: To be considered in the competition, the story shouldn't have been published anywhere. If it won't appear on a NaNoWriMo site or any other site during the contest, it should be OK. If it is published (posted) somewhere else during the contest, we can't consider it as a competition entry. We're trying to keep things simple for Zapatero at EON, who may be considering good entries for publication. Publishing/posting somewhere else makes that complicated. |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:33:00 -
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Kratos Alabel wrote:Ok, so i read the pages concerning this and I am a wee-bit confused. The eve official lore part is what is confusing me. Is there a specific topic in eve or can we make up any fictional story to be considered for the graphics card contest.
There's no specific topic in the lore-based category. The story just needs to be set in the New Eden world, and be as faithful to the lore as possible. I'm going to refer you to Zapatero's post for guidance about how strictly faithful to the lore you need to be. |
MItchell Jensen
Gravit Negotii
Relativity Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:33:00 -
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Can I submit the same story in a different category?
Is there a maximum submission point?
Do I need to be absolutely cannon? Because EVE Lore has much that isn't discussed in detail.
I already have an eve-online crossover fanfiction published on the internet at this time. The characters in the story aren't human. Would my story not be considered if a different version of it is uploaded somewhere else? |
MItchell Jensen
Gravit Negotii
Relativity Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.10.25 00:41:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Only 5000 words??? Eek...that's one hell of a challenge. Edit: I'm not trolling about the word limit. Seriously that's less than a post...I don't suppose that word limit might change at all? 
I agree. My stories usually round off about 10k with a proper storyline and ending. This'll put me into one shot mode, which I'm not exactly used to, and will be really really really short and wierd to read. |
Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:21:00 -
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I think this is a fantastic idea and I'm eager to try my hand at writing proper Eve fiction instead of shoehorning a few blurbs into blog posts, lol.
For those of you who may be interested in giving this a try, but aren't overly familiar with Eve lore and not sure where to start, might I humbly suggest my Eve Lore Survival Guide? I cover all the basics of Eve lore, with a ton of cross references for anyone who wants to dig in more. It's available over at Freebooted in blog form, or available for download in PDF form from my website. For a basic table of contents:
1. EVE Online: The Greatest Story Still Being Told - Foreword by Seismic Stan
2. An Introduction (Basic information)
3. The Empires
4. The Frontier Organizations
- Ammatar Mandate, Angel Cartel, Blood Raider Covenant, Equilibrium of Mankind, Guristas
- Intaki Syndicate, Interbus, Khanid Kingdom, Mordu's Legion, ORE, Rogue Drones
- Sansha's Nation, Serpentis, Sisters of Eve, Society of Conscious Thought
5. Technology & Miscellany
Thanks for the contest, and best of luck to everyone!
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
646
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:41:00 -
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Finished, with a modest 2,200 words. I'll have it edited and submitted by the middle of next week. :p
CEO of B.U.T.T.
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Jull Mariner
Eve Engineering Operations
Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2012.10.25 01:44:00 -
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Mark726 wrote:I think this is a fantastic idea and I'm eager to try my hand at writing proper Eve fiction instead of shoehorning a few blurbs into blog posts, lol. For those of you who may be interested in giving this a try, but aren't overly familiar with Eve lore and not sure where to start, might I humbly suggest my Eve Lore Survival Guide? I cover all the basics of Eve lore, with a ton of cross references for anyone who wants to dig in more. It's available over at Freebooted in blog form, or available for download in PDF form from my website. For a basic table of contents: 1. EVE Online: The Greatest Story Still Being Told - Foreword by Seismic Stan 2. An Introduction (Basic information) 3. The Empires 4. The Frontier Organizations
- Ammatar Mandate, Angel Cartel, Blood Raider Covenant, Equilibrium of Mankind, Guristas
- Intaki Syndicate, Interbus, Khanid Kingdom, Mordu's Legion, ORE, Rogue Drones
- Sansha's Nation, Serpentis, Sisters of Eve, Society of Conscious Thought
5. Technology & Miscellany Thanks for the contest, and best of luck to everyone!
Looks like a good guide for anyone really.
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Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
429
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:42:00 -
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MItchell Jensen wrote:Can I submit the same story in a different category?
Is there a maximum submission point?
Do I need to be absolutely cannon? Because EVE Lore has much that isn't discussed in detail.
I already have an eve-online crossover fanfiction published on the internet at this time. The characters in the story aren't human. Would my story not be considered if a different version of it is uploaded somewhere else?
-No, one story can only be used in one category, please.
-No, there's no maximum in the amount of entries. People can submit as much as they feel inspired to.
-No, not absolutely canon. It's just not possible, if anyone wanted to talk about a detail that isn't already covered in a canon piece. And it would cramp creativity a lot. Zapatero's guidelines for EON submissions is a good guide.
-Essentially, the contest entries need to be new creations. The idea is for people to start thinking, creating and writing between now and when the contest ends. Maybe the older work needs a follow up to the next progression in the story...? |
usrevenge
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.25 02:49:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:usrevenge wrote:can we post it to this forum somewhere and just link it ( if the post date is after this date of course.) Yes, it looks like posting your entry the EVE Fiction section will be OK. But please still send me an EVE mail with a link to the post, so we don't miss it.
of course, if I get hit with the need to write I will do it thanks. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4110
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Posted - 2012.10.25 05:29:00 -
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Duplicated this to the Dust Bunnies maybe they can participate :P to bad the isk and plex rewards won't go into effect until post Dust 514 launch.
Err tried. we're having issues linking to eve online forums.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1842
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Posted - 2012.10.25 05:55:00 -
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This is going to be some good stuff and I look forward to the results. |
Pyotr Kamarovi
EVE University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2012.10.25 07:05:00 -
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Time to whip up a short story. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
97
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Posted - 2012.10.25 09:13:00 -
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On the 5000 word limit everyone is asking about...
There are a few reasons for this:
1) Most of the official EVE Chronicles are no longer than this. A cursory glance at some of the longest found them to average around 3500-4000 for a single chron.
2) EON has limited space to publish fiction. 5000 words is actually rather long for them, most stories in there tend to be 3000 words or so.
3) Falcon and I have volunteered to judge this in addition to our regular work, which means we'll likely be reading a good number of them during our off hours. We expect a fairly hefty response to this contest, so significantly upping the number of words means it'll take us longer to read everything and thus longer to judge things.
Though I heartily recommend trying to work around the 3000-5000 word mark for short fiction. It's a nice, solid length for both retaining interest and keeping the story moving and punchy. I've written more short stories than I can count and it's helped me tremendously in my longer form work.
CCP Eterne | Community Representative
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J Kunjeh
419
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Posted - 2012.10.25 11:32:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:Kumq uat wrote:I was wondering if my story series would count. I wrote a series for Eve-Pirate awhile ago, fiction, set in the Eve Universe, but it was silly and definatly not canon. Would this be acceptable to enter? Sorry, the entry needs to be a new work. It could be another story in your series, though. By the way, if the new story is non-canon, there's a category for that. Can't be bothered. I am working on my own science fiction series currently. Don't see why you can't accept a piece of work I did awhile ago.
It's pretty simple. If you win, why would they want to publish and already published piece in EON magazine? Look at it from their perspective...they don't want some other publication/websites sloppy seconds.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
J Kunjeh
419
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Posted - 2012.10.25 11:35:00 -
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Shouldn't this be stickied?
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Piquet Raddei
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:01:00 -
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Oh I am SO getting in on this. Awesome contest!!! |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
433
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:55:00 -
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Loed Kane wrote:wish i could join in on this contest but my spelling and Grammar suckkks
A good story is still a good story, even if the grammar isn't perfect. Spell check can take care of the spelling for you. Same for people who don't speak English as a first language-- don't be shy. |
unrollloops
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:21:00 -
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This sound p cool. I like the short word limit, good short stories are the best stories. Time to read up on wormholes and Gallente club culture |
SamuraiJack
Sacred Templars
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.10.25 23:39:00 -
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mmmh so hang on. do they define published as in a magazine... or published as in on a website etc? eg my stories are up on fanfiction. are they counting this as published or not? |
Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
433
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:31:00 -
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SamuraiJack wrote:mmmh so hang on. do they define published as in a magazine... or published as in on a website etc? eg my stories are up on fanfiction. are they counting this as published or not?
Yep, that would count as 'published.' I've added a short wall of text (the stubbiest one possible) to the contest page to the clarify that entries should be brand-new works. But send a link to your older stories, if you want to share them as non-competition stories for the 'reading library.' And crank out a new story for the competition-- you still have 5 weeks. |
Loed Kane
Segmentum Solar
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:41:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:Loed Kane wrote:wish i could join in on this contest but my spelling and Grammar suckkks A good story is still a good story, even if the grammar isn't perfect. Spell check can take care of the spelling for you. Same for people who don't speak English as a first language-- don't be shy.
Thanks  ill give it a shot probably wont win but i have a really cool idea for a story will do my best :D |
Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
56
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:36:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:Kumq uat wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:Kumq uat wrote:I was wondering if my story series would count. I wrote a series for Eve-Pirate awhile ago, fiction, set in the Eve Universe, but it was silly and definatly not canon. Would this be acceptable to enter? Sorry, the entry needs to be a new work. It could be another story in your series, though. By the way, if the new story is non-canon, there's a category for that. Can't be bothered. I am working on my own science fiction series currently. Don't see why you can't accept a piece of work I did awhile ago. It's pretty simple. If you win, why would they want to publish and already published piece in EON magazine? Look at it from their perspective...they don't want some other publication/websites sloppy seconds.
It's also much easier to tell if the story is truly an original; with the (relative) anonymity of the EVE Online in particular, and the Web in general, it would be far too easy to lift an already-published work from another website. If that work happened to win a prize, the entrant would have ripped off someone else's work for a prize that he hadn't earned. |
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