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Sandy Vaga
Benny and the Jets
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:50:00 -
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It seems like the online average is way down....by like 25 or 30%.
Hardly any of my old friends even log on anymore and my contact list goes back almost 7 years.....and I haven't seen alot of the old boys log in since last year.
Has it gotten to the point where all that money we have paid to CCP to keep Eve fresh, and that instead has been spent on a Vampire game....well, that and the ambulation that we have been promised for 5 years has finally allowed us to walk from the closet to the mirror....wow, yeah, I was completely impressed, but I long to spin my space ship in the station again, where it is only the ISK farmers and macro miners that still log in...well, that and the newbs.
CCP, you have lost me as a customer......you have failed all the gamers that got you this far, I sure hope you can find the same kind of gamers that want to play Vampires....erm, sort of.
PS, it took me 7 weeks to blow all my ISK on blink, but I did it, 58b to blink, and I won 65b back, which was spent on a plex and some failed scams.....you know, the 2x your money back...I think I may have done something wrong there, but hey, who cares, this acct, the last of 10, expires soon and I will not be back..
FCK U CCP |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:51:00 -
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No it is fine. If you are quitting, be gracious and just go. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:57:00 -
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Sandy Vaga wrote:
Has it gotten to the point where all that money we have paid to CCP to keep Eve fresh, and that instead has been spent on a Vampire game....
I think I found your problem.
Your sub money is for renting server time. No more no less.
Working as intended.
Mr Epeen 
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:58:00 -
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someone is happy about life. |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:02:00 -
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No, OP, it's just you.
Go play Club Penguin or something. |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:36:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Sandy Vaga wrote:
Has it gotten to the point where all that money we have paid to CCP to keep Eve fresh, and that instead has been spent on a Vampire game....
I think I found your problem. Your sub money is for renting server time. No more no less. Working as intended. Mr Epeen Troll 2/10. That is an incorrect statement, above.
We pay our fee to access the EVE service which includes access to the server as well as many other aspects that comprise the service.
There have been countless threads on paying salaries, etc. etc. Those don't hold water.
What is valid, though, is how we, as customers, believe we have been served for our monthly tithe. If we believe that the service has not lived up to CCP marketing promises (a legally relevant topic in some jurisdictions) or simply our own expectations, then damn right we are going to communicate displeasure.
To sit in silence is to be complicit in your own raipe. Screw that. 
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:40:00 -
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Eve is dying. slowly, painfully and incompetently. Only the true blind fan boys and those who enjoy trolling forums enough to exchange plex for game time to continue them to do so remain. |
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
7
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:40:00 -
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I propose we open up a new sub-forum titled "The Soapbox" or "The Shakespeare Theater" where all these people who feel the need to write these dramatic posts can go and frolic together. |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:42:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:... trolling forums enough to exchange plex for game time to continue them to do so remain.
Deep. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:43:00 -
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Baby ChuChu wrote:I propose we open up a new sub-forum titled "The Soapbox" or "The Shakespeare Theater" where all these people who feel the need to write these dramatic posts can go and frolic together.
+1 |
Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:46:00 -
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Sandy Vaga wrote:It seems like the online average is way down....by like 25 or 30%.
Hardly any of my old friends even log on anymore and my contact list goes back almost 7 years.....and I haven't seen alot of the old boys log in since last year.
Has it gotten to the point where all that money we have paid to CCP to keep Eve fresh, and that instead has been spent on a Vampire game....well, that and the ambulation that we have been promised for 5 years has finally allowed us to walk from the closet to the mirror....wow, yeah, I was completely impressed, but I long to spin my space ship in the station again, where it is only the ISK farmers and macro miners that still log in...well, that and the newbs.
CCP, you have lost me as a customer......you have failed all the gamers that got you this far, I sure hope you can find the same kind of gamers that want to play Vampires....erm, sort of.
PS, it took me 7 weeks to blow all my ISK on blink, but I did it, 58b to blink, and I won 65b back, which was spent on a plex and some failed scams.....you know, the 2x your money back...I think I may have done something wrong there, but hey, who cares, this acct, the last of 10, expires soon and I will not be back..
FCK U CCP
I think there is a movie starring you in it?
"Back to BackGammon" or something....
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.02 07:35:00 -
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It sure is(n't) my corp is thriving, more active than ever and we are loving it.
Goodbye, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. |
Martri Daesal
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Flatline.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:19:00 -
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I'm not having funs so nobody has funs. Gtfo. 
kthx |
Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:22:00 -
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No insults nor sneers. The way to communicate with an organization like this is with your wallet. While we pay, they don't care what we say. When we stop paying - that's when they'll react.
Like restaurants - maybe 10% complain and don't come back. 90% just fade away with no reason to see. At least you expressed your reasons.
Goodbye but do remember - the door isn't locked behind you so if you do change your mind/attitude, for any reason... |
Guy Grand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:27:00 -
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Well, I'm tempted to say give me your stuff, but instead I'll take the high road and point out that it is in no way ironic that your name is Sandy Vag, and that it seems that you do indeed have sand in your vag. |
baltec1
72
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:33:00 -
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EVE is dying and has been for the past decade. |
Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:34:00 -
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DISMISSED! |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:45:00 -
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Should have given me some of that ISK.
ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! |
silent Serena
Khanid Mineral Reserves
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:46:00 -
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I wouldnt say eve is dying, part of the customer base is qutting.
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Voivod Rhahk'an Anstian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.02 09:36:00 -
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It's true that the old crowd is leaving, preparing to leave, or has already left, but CCP counts on pretty much different type of players to come... will they succeed in that is yet to be seen, though. Personally, I doubt. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2011.10.02 09:54:00 -
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Sandy Vaga wrote:Hardly any of my old friends even log on anymore and my contact list goes back almost 7 years.....and I haven't seen alot of the old boys log in since last year.
bachelor - 3-4 years
master - 1-2 years
basically only the PhD students left with time to play... |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.02 09:59:00 -
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The end is nigh! THE END IS NIGH! |
schurem
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2011.10.02 10:40:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:Sandy Vaga wrote:Hardly any of my old friends even log on anymore and my contact list goes back almost 7 years.....and I haven't seen alot of the old boys log in since last year. bachelor - 3-4 years master - 1-2 years basically only the PhD students left with time to play...
this for greater justice.
Much of eve gameplay as i know it takes huge blocks of time. two hours up to ten for some of the more epic fleets i have been in.
While this is epic beyond all reason, it also does not jive with having a life outside the game.
If ccp wants to keep the bittervets who, as Florestan pointed out have finished their masters' and are now having jobs, they need to find a way to make a meaningful contribution to the grand political schemes of nullsec in the space of half an hour. I'm afraid this can't be done.... |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.02 11:16:00 -
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Well,
To the subject no, i dont think that EVE/CCP is near to fall or going that way. That doesnt mean i log in game, it just got nothing to do with recent expansions, or game itself. I just dont feel like playing.
Got the same period right after BoB has been disbanded and we moved to Sakht. Got same period now several months after i left corporation.
I play mostly solo but at least at the system where someone else doing something. Group is just more solo players at one place with one goal. I lost my place, i lost my goal and most importantly i lost my Sanctum income 
Its just my alternative reality which has been hit. Its not problem of the game, at least not for me since i am not one of the leaders of power-blocks who suffer under current situation. That said the problem is allways in your own imagination and perception of reality not in reality itself. Reality just is. |
Long John Silver
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2011.10.02 11:18:00 -
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schurem wrote: Much of eve gameplay as i know it takes huge blocks of time. two hours up to ten for some of the more epic fleets i have been in. While this is epic beyond all reason, it also does not jive with having a life outside the game.
If ccp wants to keep the bittervets who, as Florestan pointed out have finished their masters' and are now having jobs, they need to find a way to make a meaningful contribution to the grand political schemes of nullsec in the space of half an hour. I'm afraid this can't be done....
THIS.
Plus the demands of null sov owners, is why there are so many experienced players still making their living in hi-sec rather than null.
Bittervet = experienced player who has 'retired' to a less demanding life in hi-sec.
Then they get bored and eventually retire from EVE altogether. It's the EVE life cycle. Shame is, with a bit of work and attention from CCP, they could so easily keep folks from leaving by making the 'casual' player options more fulfilling.
Long John Silver | Pirate Alt-áand Forum Troll. |
Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.02 12:25:00 -
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The slope is still trending downward pretty badly. Winter is all but here, summer is definately over, and we have not seen anything even close to a rebound in players online.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility |
Hroya
7
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Posted - 2011.10.02 12:37:00 -
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Of course eve is dying. everything has an end at some point.
But to take online numbers or contact lists as a guide is a bit off.
If ccp would ban all those alledged bots at once you will see the numbers proberbly take a nosedive.
But that dip wouldnt mean it's dead, contrary, it would be healthier.
The launch of incarna went rather smooth at the server end, but caused some rather unpleasant issue's client side.
It was designed in a time where there was no economic dip and upgrading a vid card or even a complete new comp wouldnt be an issue for many.
If ccp manages to work on that issue and iterate on incarna to give it some proper meaning apart from some limited enviroment then it could attract new players or reinvite former players.
Eve isnt dead, at some point it will, but not anytime soon. |
Gypsy RoseLee
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.10.02 12:55:00 -
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Eve is dead for me. Of my three accounts, one ran out of time yesterday and I have put it on the shelf. In about two weeks I'm going have to decide if I want to keep training at least one account with plex (and I could for a very long time with the bankroll I have) or to shelf the last two accounts. I'm leaning towards letting both expire based upon CCP's actions, because I'm sure as hell not listening to the words they are flinging around after Hilmar's email:
CCP CEO Hilmar wrote:Currently we are seeing very predictable feedback on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
CCP and their diverting of all their efforts into two other games I have no interest in is reflected in the quality of the product we are playing at this moment. The last couple expansions have entirely been about development of assets and technology they intend to use in those other two games.
My subscription is the way I show support for a developer and the quality of the product they provide. With that in mind, how anyone in good conscience can send even one dime towards CCP with the game in the state that it is in right now is bewildering. Especially when we know that that dime is going towards a twighlightish vampire MMO or fail-before-launch console shooter on the PS3 platform that half the Eve players don't even own to play it on. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2011.10.02 13:11:00 -
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Voivod Rhahk'an Anstian wrote:It's true that the old crowd is leaving, preparing to leave, or has already left, but CCP counts on pretty much different type of players to come... will they succeed in that is yet to be seen, though. Personally, I doubt.
Yeah I think this is just about the size of it.
The "feel" of the game, to me, is that a lot of older players still had a thin thread of trust in CCP that was making them carry on subscribing to a game that they'd probably already gotten bored with long ago (and let's face it, the game's had a damn good run no matter how you look at it). But CCP's gross bumbling and fumbilng earlier this year, and the contempt for players shown in the leaked stuff, just totally broke that thread of trust.
Something really "popped" for many people - the bubble of immersion. Suddenly a lot of people realized there were other things they could be doing with their time.
So maybe this was partly deliberate. Maybe CCP decided on a leap of faith - that they'd be able to get more players in to replace the lost ones.
Time will tell whether the strategy worked. I think they'd have to "dumb down" EVE much more for it to work. It's simply not a casual gamer's game (unless you put a lot of effort into making it work for you as a casual player).
OTOH, maybe if CCP do "get back to basics" and concentrate on making EVE the best space game it could possibly be, maybe a lot of those older players will return eventually?
But I have a feeling there's only so far you can rely on "being the only decent space MMO in town" to keep players coming back. Maybe that limit has been reached? Dunno really, but it's fascinating to watch it all unfold.
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Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:45:00 -
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Thank you for playing EVE Online, and being a member of its community. Have fun in your future entertainment ventures.
This is what customers do.-á 4 accouts closed. |
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