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Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:09:00 -
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i think the problem is not that they have a active mutual war it's that they cannot join another alliance , i knew that for chars there is a 7 day period until they can rejoin a corp under a active war , have no idea if the same rule applies for corps that leave / join alliances .
As i understand it and also have some inside info on the situation : RR was part of a alliance that declared war on a corp , they left said alliance for whatever reason (really doubt they left because of the war) . Got stuck with a war that eventually was declared mutual and are not able to join a new alliance because of it .
If that is the case it sounds a little weird . There should be a way to join a alliance even if u are under wardec . |
Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.25 19:51:00 -
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Wow this is a very bad idea on ccp's part i mean they passed out on all that isk if the war is declared mutual .
On the other hand i am wondering how much time did they spend on this idea since there is no exit strategy other than of course the mutual agreement. But thinking about this some more anyone can create a corp put it into a alliance that is being wardeced and then inherit the was and declare mutual and hunt the wardeccing alliance/ corp until ccp decides on a alternative option or shuts down the server . That would serve very well with the old war deccing like Moar Tears Privateers and co :) . I don't think anyone would want a perma war with those guys esp the 0.0 alliances . I thought the new price for war was to prevent these stupid war decs and make the real ones more fun but since this loophole exists and well it has been deemed a normal game mechanic it will probably become a normal thing in new eden in a few days . Yes u need to fall in for the trap as u need to do the wardec but some ppl never read ....
All i would like to say further is ...
IN B4 IT HAPPENS TO GEWNS AND THE MECHANIC IS CHANGED BY MASS PETITION
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Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.25 23:17:00 -
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+1 ning ppl for using some sort of a loophole and that were warned for using exploits . ppl that burst out with this sort of behaviour when theyre easy money is taken away from them . yeah dude u are are perfect example of a space idiot btw goonswarm is that way ----->, heard they have new sistems to play in |
Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.26 18:48:00 -
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Off Topic :
wow reading the posts in this forum just make me loose my faith in humanity . really dudes your FW fudes are so pathetic , reading trough i understand that some of you leet caldari fw have found a way to get plexes stuck so you and only you can farm them after dt (i mean that is a pvpers dream right we all like to rat rat rat ) . You guys give out the impression that u are a very active pvpers but it seems you are just a carebears with a grudge , same mentality as a little boy that has to share his toys with other people.
50 bil for surrendering yes ofc . For 50 bil dude there are some ppl out there that would grief the **** out of you by just using theyre alts and i think that most of the ppl that are stuck can raise that kind of money or band up and camp you in your systems.
On Topic :
The fix :
Even tho i share the oppinion of a dude in here that you need to know what can happen before you do it and not cry after it's been done ( other than that sir u are a moron) i still think that this type of problem does not help the war system and it will actually make war decs dry up . More people are probably going to write about this and i might get it's headline in one of the two eve news sites that are up so u can kiss that wardec goodbye in prob a few weeks or a month .
One other thing is that you should not be able to lock someone in not doing smth , and not pay for it . I would find it fair that if a crop wants to declare a mutual war they should pay the same price as the agressor and as long as the war is active both parties should pay for it . I guess it would be fair for the defender not to pay anything in the first week of the war and after a week both parties should pay a reduced ammount since "Concord has to be made aware of these things and inform all of theyre officers about it , that costs time and money".
Another thing would be that you should be able to join a Alliance when u are under wardec . Why ? Well u can do it with a char and you are not able to join the same corp for a period of 7 days or until the war ends , this should also apply corp wise and this care if the war is still active and the specific alliance would inherit the war .
Ofc this is my oppinion and yes it would help brake the hole perma war thing some of you ppl think is soo great . It would prevent the hole disband your corp thing that i find rather ******** . It would prevent innocent ppl that get cought by this because they have a ******** director in the exec corp in the alliance that they are in .
The eventual Exploit :
Everybody might form a corp compised of hi sec ganking alts and scout the current wardecs join that alliance for a day or two enherit the war , leave decalre it mutual and grief the **** out of all the people that want to have fun with this sistem , it would also make 0.0 alliance invicible since they can lock the regular agressing corps in place so they won't be able to joi na alliance ever again .
As it is now it looks to be on a very small scale , ofc what i worte before is just a idea that anyone can have in 5 minutes of reading this topic .
The buttom line is this is a very badly thought out mechanic that creates a loophole for some ppl to vent theyre anger towards other players for not letting them spinn arround a object just so that they can see that wallet ....
And for the two duses posting crap before sry i couldn't be arsed to remember your names you guys should go back to playing wow . And telling ppl that you have been arround longer that they have is so dumb at least for this game since as u can see beeing arround alot doesn't really reflect your level of knoledge u posses and ofc you might get shitted on in the same way by someone who has played less and is smarter than you |
Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.26 20:10:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Yuri Intaki wrote:Most annoying. I had just inspected records and it does seem RR were in HE for only five days and generally had no part of the whole sorry affair so we were actually willing to drop the dec for a nominal fee of 3b isk (we need plex to activate said account of course, hence the cost) . But if we are threathened in forums and in public then we have to reconsider. So you admit that this is an inactive corp left only to keep the war going for grieving purposes? I get that you were a small corp and did not have the numbers to fight back thru PVP. But exploiting a broken mechanic to get back at them through grieving is not acceptable. This is an exploit used for grieving and absolutely must be fixed. There is nothing exploits , it is working as intended, you should study CCP devblog about this issue and reasons why things are like they are.
Comming from a dude that was warned for using exploits to bear. people should really trust you right ....
And to add to the top of it all a monocle *** wololololo |
Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.26 21:20:00 -
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this is funny i checked this guys corp out and he didn't set the war that war declared on his alliance to mutual he only used that alt corp so he cannot be killed without consequence . hey bigboy if u are the pvper u say u are why don't u use your main corp for that and only a alt corp .... you come and say it's not griefieng and when ppl check u out they see a liitle bear turd with illusions of grandure ....
please explain to all the peeps in this thread why u did no use Liandri Covenant and set mutual war with them or would that interrupt your bearing too much and you would loose those 50 bils a week u need to maybe keep up your rent |
Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.26 22:08:00 -
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hey bad meesanger no reply u got wrdeced ony your main corp and u surrendered and now act high an mighty :))
the plot thickens |
Slasher88
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.27 16:21:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:Yuri Intaki wrote:Bugsy VanHalen wrote: So you admit that this is an inactive corp left only to keep the war going for grieving purposes?
I get that you were a small corp and did not have the numbers to fight back thru PVP. But exploiting a broken mechanic to get back at them through grieving is not acceptable.
This is an exploit used for grieving and absolutely must be fixed. It's our alt corp and we hardly remember it's existence at best of times. As said, our main corp Nasranite Watch was decced too, war lasted for weeks and you can inspect the records of how it went. for everyone included. Broken mechanic was not even triggered deliberately, it just kept going due to previous events and RR got the brunt of it for joining the alliance that decced Nasranites & Empe. But next time if someone wants to do diplomacy with us, you really should contact Damar, not other guys. I'm actually the "good cop" who can be reasoned with  (Unless you are a member of froggie militia) Best spadework ever. "Oshit son, this is broken griefing, so better make it look totes inadvertent in case of GM's getting het up on us!" You certainly fooled me with your concerted revelations about how you all totally forgot you had alts in a corp you used to suck up wardecs. GM is not getting us or they are not even interested about it, there is no exploits or exploiting on this case, everything is working as intended.
what a bounch of carebears
a alliance that is makeing ""1600b"" in a week and only flies cruises as the most expensive ships , hey bad messanger was the rent up when they war decced u and u were shivering that u might get kicked out ...
+ haveing a 35% eff makes u such a good fw alliance .....
the only thing your allaince has done is go and survivie as a parasite in the areas real fw alliances live ...
btw m8 i hope u won't use any caps in the near future we might see eachother in local and i will have a blast |
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