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EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.03.31 17:32:00 - [1] Hey guys, Today something got me wondering. One of my corp member got pod killed (cool). He lost a few implants and his ship (no problem) but the thing that made me a bit ticked off was his skill point loss. He had a triple A clone if I remember correctly. Several levels above what his characters skills points are at the moment. When his clone was re-animated it came out with skill points missing in caldari frigate level 5. I instantly thought oh crap to myself because I know such a skill takes a week or more to train. It turned out that it was only 8 hours training but I know from another case where the person lost refinery efficientcy level 5 all together that it could have been worse. I have a question why does this happen? Seriously isn't it bad enough that a person loses their ship and implants. But to loose a several skills points in something that you invested large amounts of time due to something random can really feel like a kick in the gut. Why does this happen and is this kind of thing worth possibily spending the next month which you pay for retraining the skills that you have already trained up? Anyways.. Just wondering why this happens and if it is really that necessary to wipe hours, days or even weeks of what people have already invested their time in. Have fun and what do you think? lol. /me buttons up and places the kev helmet on. - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.03.31 17:45:00 - [2] Originally by: Reku Never happened to me. Is that bug? If it is I am going to stop pvp and leave my corp until it get fixed. Well when one of my members got pod killed with a full set of implants and with her way to overpriced clone. In the re-animation she lost refining efficency level 5. Petitioning it just got the reply of it happens sometimes and we can not do anything about it. That was about a month ago or two and she only got the skill back recently. So no I do not think from my personal experience that it is a bug. I think its a weird feature of EVE that I just am having problems understanding. - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.03.31 17:47:00 - [3] Edited by: EvilSyKOSkitzo on 31/03/2005 17:50:04 Originally by: Archa that should not have happend. he either doesn't dare to admit he forgot to update his clone. orrrrrrrrrrrrr it was a bug. If it was just him that I ever heard this of happening to then I would have laughed called him something along the lines of NOOB! lol but he is not the only one. I have met people that are not my corporate memebers who have had this happen. I hope we get a few more stories from people who have had this happen to them. I'm curious as to how much skill points it is possible to loose in this random happening. - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.03.31 17:57:00 - [4] Originally by: Verone same thing happened to me, i clone jumped, and lost 6 days off amarr frigate 5 even though i'd just bought a clone that was 2million skillpoints over my required amount like, 10 mins before hand. 'tis annoying, and i don't know why it happened, but it did. I make a HABIT of keeping my clone updated, as I run the risk of getting podded on a daily basis, but it still seemed to happen. Nothing you can do about it really, i'd discuss what happened when i reported it to CCP, but i don't want to get this thread locked, as i'm interested as to how many other people have experienced this, and if it is just the "frigate" skills that are concerned. Nah, you and my mate where the actual lucky ones. You only lost.. well some what respectable amounts of skillpoints. lol, the member that lost refining efficency level 5 was in a hauler trying to stay out of pvping and that skills took ages to get back apparently. I might get her to post what happened exactly here because its been awhile. - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.03.31 18:27:00 - [5] Originally by: Dirtball yeah I lost 12 hours off of Large Hybrid skill. It happens, it's *** and lame, petitioning will get you nowhere. Maybe clones only truly update at downtime, so if you lose a pod and buy a new clone and lose another pod it will pretend you didn't have a clone or something. Possibly.. anyone else have any ideas? Any change a CCP person could enlighten us to whats up? :P - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.04.01 09:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Zirus Yeah I have lost skill points to when clonejumping. And it wasnt any skill, oh no, it just had to be a 35 day one :P It was the Iteron MK5 one. I was so ****ed. But I fought with the support for about 3-4 days and FINALLY got it back, and ending with them apologyzing me Damn, a few of you have said that you where able to correct this. I hope they actually do correct it these days because when my friend petitioned the skillpoint loss all she got back was "we are sorry but we can not do anything about your loss, please have a nice day". I wish CCP did actually read these threads because it would be good to actually get a full explaination of what happens when you randomly loose skillpoints. - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.04.02 04:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Alexander Kiernov Originally by: Aelius This is ALARMING to say the least. SIGNED! What's more alarming tho is that I've got over 110 different skills so I'd probably never notice any SP loss lol.. but wtf, this should be top priority stuff when it comes to debugging!!! hmm, lol i never thought id hear this again. What I mean by that is that a mate of mine recently realised that a lot of this level 4 skills had dropped one level. They dropped but not much but he was kind of shocked when he looked at his gunnery skills and the majority of them where at level 3 instead of the level he had before. lol, i'll have to tell him he is not the only one that its happened to. - EvilSyKOSkitzo
EvilSyKOSkitzo	Posted - 2005.04.03 11:17:00 - [8] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari If this ever happened to me, I would send CCP a steady stream of messages that would get steadily more indignant and assertive, and I would not give up, period. I suggest everybody else do the same if this happens, because eventually CCP will give in if you have a good point and they screwed you over. It just makes their life easier if they can get you off their back. But then again, I'm a very persistent and vindictive person. You may be of a kinder nature. lol, they usually get annoyed about those kind of steady streams.

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