Yes goons are clearly venting their frustration on the forums. All three of them were posting in that thread.

Your counting skills suck I saw more then 9 Goons plus TEST &howmany ALTS lol

TEST != Goonswarm, genius.

We aren't even in the same coalition.

Reposting a locked thread is always a good idea. This will go well.

I dont think anybody realises that Goonswarm getting trapped in Decshield means CCP will fix the wardec system once and for all.

Good news all round!!!

It wasn't changed when we were in a mutual wardec with jade and issler, what makes you think it'll be changed now?

Goons deserve whatever they get, and they're going to get alot worse when the Bounty System comes out.

But, the mutual war mechanic is broken. The guy who runs Dec Shield frequently posts on the forums to get it fixed, and he's the worst offender for using it. As the system stands, any corp who has been war decced can join Dec Shield and then leave, Dec Shield (being the new defender) declares the war mutual and so any war dec corp is permanently stuck in mutual war forever. The Dec Shield CEO thinks he could eventually collect mutual permanent and free wars on every PvP corp and alliance in Eve.

If CCP fix it, it wont be because Goons need help. It will be because the system is broken. I fully expect them to fix it, although they are taking their bloody time about it.

Petitions for what?

It wasn't changed when we were in a mutual wardec with jade and issler, what makes you think it'll be changed now?

I don't know, you tell me. Crybaby.

EXCUSE ME?!?!?! It was CERTAILY CHANGED: Dogpiling was effectively outlawed by CCP with a mechanic that exponentially increased allly costs lol

EXCUSE ME?!?!?! It was CERTAILY CHANGED: Dogpiling was effectively outlawed by CCP with a mechanic that exponentially increased allly costs lol

It's disheartening to know that people like you actually exist. Even if this was true, you'd still be completely missing the point. The mutual war situation is broken. If CCP fixes it, it wont be for Goons, it will be for everyone. Fools like you with your tinfoil hat bring it to the attention of CCP as soon as goons get involved, and then CCP fix it. Because of you and your ilk, not because of Goons.

CCP "fixing" things as soon as they apply to goons.

Oh, you think that was because of us? I think you'll find it was because it turned into a hilariously broken hisec pubbie abuse tool, and that's the only reason it was ever changed. CCP doesn't care about anyone living in nullsec, or they would've made even a single positive change to nullsec the past couple of years.

ACTUALLY i HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS POINT: SINCE DOGPILING WAS INACTED WITH THE NONGOON CSM IT WASN'T JUST BECAUSE OFGOONS IT WAS BECAUSE ALL BIG SPACERICH NULL ALLIANCES GOT SCARED

This, ladies and gentlemen, is your posting whenever you're on drugs.

Don't post while on drugs.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is your posting whenever you're on drugs.

Don't post while on drugs.

So stick to subject.

The subject being the ice interdiction?

This, ladies and gentlemen, is your posting whenever you're on drugs.

Don't post while on drugs.

The point is that whilst the war dec system is broken it is not about who has the biggest Epeen it is about getting the mechanic fixed, Using Goonswarm to show this in my opinion is Genious by Manifest and it also has it's side effects of fun for them.

Sometimes I think CCP wanted high-sec power-blocs like Decshield to emerge out of this. So there might be actual war in high-sec instead of just the petty crap which existed before. By immediately saying it's broken and giving up you really aren't allowing any opportunity for emergent gameplay.

How do you not see the point?

CCP "fixing" things as soon as they apply to goons.

What's wrong with you?

So what your saying is that CCP shouldn't fix problems when they begin to affect a very large portion of the player base?

Since when did hisec wardecs affect goons or test?

itt publords think that wardecs affect us even when we do suicide ganking campaigns

it's almost as if we had a bunch of wardecs on us during the 2011 ice interdiction, and still succeeded

it's almost as if we had a bunch of wardecs on us during burn jita, and still succeeded

welp, so much for that idiotic theory of yours

but hey i'll let the publords go off with their "teh gooniez couldn't stand up to a real pvp alliance like manifest destiny o7o7o7o7 "

Since when did hisec wardecs affect goons or test?

You also have a nack of trying to deflect that Goonswarm got duped by a small high sec merc alliance to show how broken the war dec mechanic is. It shows you do not understand what it is all about.

I rest my case as you really have no clue.

That may be, but it would be polite to explain it to him. Don't you think?

You appear to have missed the point of the thread.

Ok, serious question.
Does this war make it impossible for corps to join Goonswarm Federation?

Goons deserve whatever they get, and they're going to get alot worse when the Bounty System comes out.

But, the mutual war mechanic is broken. The guy who runs Dec Shield frequently posts on the forums to get it fixed, and he's the worst offender for using it. As the system stands, any corp who has been war decced can join Dec Shield and then leave, Dec Shield (being the new defender) declares the war mutual and so any war dec corp is permanently stuck in mutual war forever. The Dec Shield CEO thinks he could eventually collect mutual permanent and free wars on every PvP corp and alliance in Eve.

If CCP fix it, it wont be because Goons need help. It will be because the system is broken. I fully expect them to fix it, although they are taking their bloody time about it.

Unfortunately, no.

I rest my case as you really have no clue.

goonswarm has constantly been wardecced for the better part of six years

out of those six years there have been at best 2-3 weeks total where we were not under a wardec

so tell us, wise NPC alt poster, how do wardecs adversely affect us?

1, It is not about Goonswarm

Ok last time just for you.

1, It is not about Goonswarm
2, It is all about the war dec mechanic

Now if you would take your head out your arse and read the posts correctly you would see this.

(Damn you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink .)

Ok last time just for you.

1, It is not about Goonswarm

2, It is all about the war dec mechanic

Now if you would take your head out your arse and read the posts correctly you would see this.

Ok last time just for you.

1, It is not about Goonswarm
2, It is all about the war dec mechanic

Now if you would take your head out your arse and read the posts correctly you would see this.

(Damn you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink .)

(Damn you can lead a goon to hisec but you cannot make him mine.)

I wonder if in years to come we'll still see **** threads like these.

I expected better in this thread... then again...

goonswarm has constantly been wardecced for the better part of six years

out of those six years there have been at best 2-3 weeks total where we were not under a wardec

so tell us, wise NPC alt poster, how do wardecs adversely affect us?

Ok last time just for you.

1, It is not about Goonswarm
2, It is all about the war dec mechanic

Now if you would take your head out your arse and read the posts correctly you would see this.

(Damn you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink .)

Thread moved from GD to CAOD - ISD Type40.

Funny, last I checked the point of this thread was "hurr the stupid goonies are frustrated by hisec wardecs, so they got CCP to cover it up for them". Now, while it looks like Miko Jin is trying to twist the thread to what he wants the thread to be about, that doesn't change the fact that the OP is wrong, and that your implication that goons and test are in any way affected by these hisec wars, and certainly not to the point where "CCP should fix problems".

Unfortunately, no.

I think your auth makes it impossible for corps to join Goonswarm

Thread moved from GD to CAOD - ISD Type40.

Is this the sub forum were GD threads go to die because ISD doesn'tlike them but can't justify locking them?

Is this the sub forum were GD threads go to die because ISD doesn'tlike them but can't justify locking them?

Thread moved from GD to CAOD - ISD Type40.

Quoting for posterity.

I skimmed over about 5 pages and all I saw was:

GRRRRRRR GOOOOOONS!


The conspiracy theories are my favourite ones however. anyone who has actually spoke to Goons when they aren't "doing their thing" in EVE knows that if they had any real influence over CCP there would be a mod that transforms your opponent's ship into genitalia and that all the Captain's Quarters screens would show "adult movies"

a fleet of a thousand thoraxes would own

admit it

Really bad, awful, sanctimonious, dim-witted, terrible, bad, awful, repugnant volunteer moderators aside, if they left every ARGH GOONS thread alone to fester in GD, we would be the only thing anyone ever talked about, so it's understandable they send these bad threads to CAOD to die. That's probably the least objectionable thing about their entire operation!

Anyway, most goons who post on the forums don't actually play. I log in to set skills clear a hub every day or two, but I'm sure any post I make is some kind of indicator of how GSF or the CFC as a whole is faring to the average publord... so yes, you're all right, we couldn't stand up to the forces of elite pvp, they have us on the ropes in the ice-fields, vfk will be in enemy hands by December, mittani will disband by january. You heard it here first, from me, a goonie.