Ho please put bounty on this badger pilot 800'ish sp, please please please please, I need some isk.

[quote=Touval LysanderFirstly. I'm probably a lot older than you think. I'm semi-retired with teenage children. I'm also highly educated and wealthy. I did not achieve those things by being a "troll" or a "moron" in real life.

With all due respect, I doubt this statement very much. I have looked into your post history over the past week, it is pretty much constant. If you were indeed "wealthy" you would not be sat on EvE Online forums, nor would you be playing a video game non stop, you would be out living your life, doing what ever it is that wealthy people do.

In terms of people who say "i am highly educated and wealthy" this normally translates into "i am some what poor, have low self esteem and lie on the internet because people cannot prove otherwise".

Myself for instance, i am married, four children, i am not wealthy, i attended Oxford Brookes university and have a degree in IT, i live a comfortable existence.

Back to your point. The "real life" persona is a complete fiction, a simple study of Psychology will prove this, there have been numerous tests done on this in the past ten years. A player, if he/she is openly disrespectful towards others in "a game" is in fact very polite in real life, not confident and mainly keeps to themselves. However, this being said, a player who acts this way, would in effect act the very same way in "real life" if they could in fact get away with it easily. Now, you can respond with a intellectual argument about how wrong i am, and you are right, this will only further my point, if you take the time to dissect this post and point out flaws, id suggest logging off.

Since my last post, i have bathed three children, read two of them a bed time story, been to the shop, been to a friends house to pick up Photoshop and had a cup of tea and a bacon sandwich, in this time you have posted everywhere on the forums and trolled multiple people, a simple look at your posting history will prove this.

My question would be, what would a highly educated player with wealth and teenage children, be doing, posting on, online forums all day non stop, when you had money and children that need to be entertained? You would not, it would be terrible parenting and outright child neglect to plant yourself on your PC, not to mention a terrible role model?

Now, I'm off to bed as my youngest wakes up at around 6am and the other three, shortly after and so begins the day. I would suggest with your wealth and highly educated self, to think more of your children, and less time trying to look like a big man on the internet.

Sleep Well.

.... ( lots of angry stuff that may or may not be within the posters rights (who am i to decide) )

My original retort in all of this and it is a solution for all the people who do not LIKE what they see

htfu, or stfu and gtfo. << I was NOT being "angry". I was being frank. and I don't want to Frank, my name is Touval. I am a 249 year old veteran of nothing, my mother was a Minmatar slave and my father was a Caldari naval officer. We think.

These forums need to be cleaned up. I showed a friend called Nathan this forum last night and the some of the responses here in this very thread, he just said "looks like a whole bunch of drama".

It's your opinion that they need to be cleaned up. While there are a lot of bad threads and replies on this forum, I don't think it's fair to punish all users by enforcing strict posting regulations.

Like your friend said, there's a lot of drama here, but that's one of the main draws of GD for me. I come here because I enjoy the drama and the trolling because it's usually quite entertaining. There are exceptions, and those exceptions are dealt with by ISD. In terms of bad attitudes and argumentative personalities, that's just a reflection of the userbase. I don't think there's any need to force grown adults to play nicely with one another, especially if they don't want to.

These forums may not be for you but you always have the option of finding an alternative forum or even creating your own forum where you can enforce your own standards. I can't tell CCP how to control the posting here but I can say I would find it a whole lot more boring if strict rules were put in place to make sure any user with a sensitive disposition will never have their feelings hurt.

Never mind.

It's your opinion that they need to be cleaned up. While there are a lot of bad threads and replies on this forum, I don't think it's fair to punish all users by enforcing strict posting regulations.

Like your friend said, there's a lot of drama here, but that's one of the main draws of GD for me. I come here because I enjoy the drama and the trolling because it's usually quite entertaining. There are exceptions, and those exceptions are dealt with by ISD. In terms of bad attitudes and argumentative personalities, that's just a reflection of the userbase. I don't think there's any need to force grown adults to play nicely with one another, especially if they don't want to.

These forums may not be for you but you always have the option of finding an alternative forum or even creating your own forum where you can enforce your own standards. I can't tell CCP how to control the posting here but I can say I would find it a whole lot more boring if strict rules were put in place to make sure any user with a sensitive disposition will never have their feelings hurt.

I think the problem is that his view is not just his view, but the view of a significant part of the playerbase, based on the amount of posts (and thread before the OPs thread) on this.

You enjoy GD the way it is now, good for you. The issue is more how many enjoy it and how many don't, in addition to the point: will this kind of forum thrash talk attract more or less players that CCP want in the game?

I'm not sure why you quoted this. That post was originally a reply to someone else, but I misunderstood their meaning. I edited it out because it wasn't relevant.

Hello

A few recent replies, the "view" on the forums is not simply my own, a simple research into the forum posts with key words using eve search will relay that it is a multitude of eve players including many who have replied here, that all agree on one solid point.

The EvE online forums are a cess pit of trolling and rubbish and players posting in threads they have no interest i simply to pick a fight or to troll it simply because "they can".

I can assure you, i would not be so egotistical to demand the forums change to suit my owns, that would be utterly selfish and reprehensible behavior.

WQ

2003 player, you read forums only now ??????????

Where have you been ? You have zero interests in EVE.

2003 player, you read forums only now ??????????

Where have you been ? You have zero interests in EVE.

I have never bothered with these forums, i have always used other sources, same as i do in wow/dayz etc. most *official* forums are very boring and negative. Of which, if i may, you are quite grandly proving my point.

The official line TL:DR'd

Guys, guys. We COULD be worse

I would wish that this was true, i had always heard rumors of how bad the forums appeared to be but never looked into it. I spent 4 days on a whim looking across forums for other games. I was never a forum warrior, i prefer to play rather than talk. But, that being said, this forum was the worst, out of WOW/EQII/AION etc by a very long shot

The forums represent the game. I think some people forget that

Some complaints never disappear due to new players who do not understand the way EvE works or just want to change the game to their needs and desires even at the risk that the game loses a central aspect. Best example is "eve is dying" "afk cloaking", nerf blobbing" etc.

What, you mean that nerfing blobbing isn't THE solution to EVE's problems?

What, you mean that nerfing blobbing isn't THE solution to EVE's problems?

some things I have learned about the Eve Online forums

-EVERYONE IS A ****
-EVERYONE IS WRONG
-EVERYONE ELSE IS PLAYING EVE WRONG

Until you realize this, you are gonna have a bad time.

The forums are a necessary part of EVE. The metagame dynamic is essentially powered by grudges and cultural incompatibility. The forums hugely facilitate the precious hatred and contempt required to keep people logging in to kill those scrubs.

Touval Lysander is the kind of poster that you can just block. You would never miss anything important. Because he never says anything important about eve. Any idea he dreams up is junk. He is all about the internet banter and if that does nothing for you then block it and you miss nothing but the banter. No loss.

Hello
it is a multitude of eve players including many who have replied here, that all agree on one solid point.

The EvE online forums are a cess pit of trolling and rubbish and players posting in threads they have no interest i simply to pick a fight or to troll it simply because "they can".