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Arydanika
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Posted - 2012.10.29 15:42:00 -
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This is and interesting change. I don't really feel it's good or bad, just a different way of doing things. I can see how this can be good for players who just want to put an advertisement up and get people in to the game. The free game time will be good for them. The removal of PLEX-for-PLEX is understandable with this a single unlimited link (and also if CCP wanted to nerf 51 day accounts ) , but I'm not sure if it's the best course of action for all.
I say that because I have a fan site. Having a image link where people who are interested in Eve and want to try it is great. I don't have to worry about individual links and can just set it up and not worry about maintenance and other annoying crap. The flip side is, as a fan site I have no need for free monthly game time for the account that link will be linked to. That's already one of the benefits for being a fan site. The Plex was a great option for fan sites because they can used as prizes for events and contests I hold. While there is certainly a benefit for CCP and new players, the benefits for my listeners and I have been removed.
In retrospect of typing this post I suppose I could route the link through one of my alts, but they're pretty much taken care of as well. I'd rather have a way to convert that time in to something else that would benefit my fan site. That was one of the great things about PLEX-for-PLEX (and the 51day alts).
I hope the community team will takes the time to revisit this change and provide other benefits for fan sites. Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |

Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:12:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:While I agree that the fansites could use some more love in this regard, what about the affiliate program? Would it work for you the way it is currently set up?
I think there might have been some crossing posting. I did not see that post until after I posted my original statement. I did amended it to say I'll be referring further judgement until I had time to read over all of that glorious text. I missed the Affiliate link at the bottom of that page also. Maybe something a little more attention grabbing in the main text for us Blindy McBatsighted people?
Also: YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! PONIES! *squeak* Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |

Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:22:00 -
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And now that I have read the Affiliate Program information I have more things to post.
First, this looks absolutely great. The payouts are incredibly generous and the commissions are way more than what most Time Code Affiliate Program's pay out. The brackets seem a little unreasonable when coming from the perspective of small website sites, but it's a 100% payout with a starting payout of 50% which is just stupid to argue over for reasons already mention.
Secondly, please consider a non-cash option. For US residents the site owners would have to put in W2s and pay taxes on our revenues. Cash affiliate programs can also get us in to copy right trouble depends on how our podcast is setup, if we use Creative Commons material etc. The legal ramifications cash incentives produces may cause some fan sites to not to participate in the program. A non-cash payment option would be nice and it allows CCP to keep those revenues so we can have more iteration, ships and other cool non-jesus features.
Lastly, with the above comments in mind, CCP did well by adding PayPal as a payment provided. PayPal does create tax forms for those in the US and it such an easy handling method when it comes to things like this. Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |

Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:49:00 -
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Anabaric wrote:Arydanika wrote:In retrospect of typing this post I suppose I could route the link through one of my alts, but they're pretty much taken care of as well. I'd rather have a way to convert that time in to something else that would benefit my fan site. This is the obvious idea for fansites, and exactly what I will do with mine, that way the benefits can still be shared. Previously I've always split the isk of a buddy reward with the new buddy. The only thing is, as I said in the full context of my post, my alts game time is already taken care of so it really doesn't benefit me that way either. Unless i make another alt for the sake some where to put game time. That seems kind of... excessive, extravagant, I'm not sure what the right word is. Maybe silly? I don't need that many alts. I hardly have time for the ones I have. Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |

Arydanika
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:03:00 -
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I had a potential idea for non-cash commissions for the Affiliate Programs. I would really prefer a non-cash option, but recognize IGÇÖm probably in the great minority. I hope itGÇÖs something CCP will consider.
Credits: Instead of taking cash payments for the subs, allow players to have credit with Eve Online. Allow the credit to be used through the Eve Online Store to purchase PLEX and other goods. Affiliates can then use those goods as promotional items or personal use.
The PLEX portion of this suggestion maybe iffy. CCP would need to make it very clear abuse will not be tolerated and may result in dismissal from the program. ThereGÇÖs also the option to exclude PLEX all together. The point of the suggestion is really just to have a choice of how you accept the commission.
Credits can also be used to allow Affiliate Program promotions on Eve Online subscriptions. For instance, evetimecode.com gives Lost in Eve podcast listeners a discount code & listeners are able to get 10% off their PLEX purchases. IGÇÖd love to offer something like this on my site to benefit current users and new users a like.
Implantation of this would most likely be a huge challenge. There are probably background components IGÇÖm not aware of when it comes to CCP doing these things, but itGÇÖs an idea to get the ball rolling. Hopefully this will be able to create some ideas on non-cash benefits for the program. Voices from the Void; a bi-weekly podcast and weekly news vlog featuring current events of the MMORPG Eve Online. Check out other Eve Online podcasts by visiting the Eve Online Pod Pack. |
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