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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.04.05 21:39:00 -
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I probably just alienated 3/4 of the Keiretsu corporations that are leaving but, please understand, you guys have had a far more nurturing relationship with M.Corp than have the rest of us. Once things blow over, I personally wouldn't mind seeing you guys come back but please, for the duration of the next few weeks, try to be impartial, you know me and know I wouldn't post what I don't believe.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.04.05 21:52:00 -
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That's actually quite amusing reading... very creative  |

Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.04.05 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Velios That's actually quite amusing reading... very creative 
There have been times prior to The Organ Grinders where, I was known as Corp Cynic. I try :)
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Arathian Evasion
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Posted - 2005.04.06 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arathian Evasion on 06/04/2005 00:29:07 Edited by: Arathian Evasion on 06/04/2005 00:28:04 just for the info, M. Corp fought for K/F for several weeks in bvip or wherever it was needed, without demanding 1 single thing, we lost ships, we lost isk, and then Jaisan acuse us for being spies, which we wasnt, and that made quite many of us angry, as we had done so much for K/F and not even got a Thx from them.. and then they remove all rights in their space, so we could either travel trough or fight to defend THEIR space...
We have thought for a long time to do something, move somewhere, pick sides, and all that ****.
and then on the last day, in that so called 5 hours period, Jaisan acused us for being spies,(while losing ships for them) our rights got revoked from GW, so no ******* wonder why we picked what we picked..
and when we then say We Are Neutral To K!!! then we ARE! and we didnt kill any, either F or K before they knew.. we got kicked from alliance channels, and went aggresive Against Foundation... To all those Keiretsu members which have been shot down by us, the reason is simple:
we dont attack Neutrals, so if you appeared red on our scanner, and we shot, then its because you or a fellow member attacked on us first, where standings to the corp will be changed to -...
huh that was nice getting all this B-U-L-L-**** out.. 
"Maybe your not interested in war, but war might be interested in you"
I dont kill for fun, i kill because i need to!!! |

Domalais
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Posted - 2005.04.06 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Arathian Evasion
and when we then say We Are Neutral To K!!! then we ARE! and we didnt kill any, either F or K before they knew.. we got kicked from alliance channels, and went aggresive Against Foundation...
Simply untrue.
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:54:00 -
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Because.....? The Black Widows
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.04.06 09:03:00 -
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Yes, its 100% accurate that M.Corp did not fire on anyone before we were kicked from the rebirth channel. You guys better make sure you had set us to negative standings before you accuse us of being spies and kicking us out of channels - if we showed up blue to you after that point there's not much we can do about it. |

Domalais
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Posted - 2005.04.06 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Domalais on 06/04/2005 22:27:42
Originally by: Treebeard dk Because.....?
Because I have rebirth chat logs showing when M. Corp's access to the channel was removed, and it is about 15 minutes after ship losses involving M. Corp were posted to the channel.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.04.06 23:04:00 -
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thats a lie |

IndigoRed
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Posted - 2005.04.06 23:44:00 -
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All I want to know is who let these whoes in my room?
So much for the promised land of fat carebears just waiting to lose tech2 components. We coulda had it sooo sweet. Oh well.
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Arathian Evasion
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:28:00 -
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Dom, lets see then post those logs, and kill mails, and then we can compare em to tho9se we have! coz if you have a log of when we got kicked, then so should we have.. and i think we know who we engaged, so show some proof!
Coz its not true.. "Maybe your not interested in war, but war might be interested in you"
I dont kill for fun, i kill because i need to!!! |

Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.04.07 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Arathian Evasion and then on the last day, in that so called 5 hours period, Jaisan acused us for being spies,(while losing ships for them) our rights got revoked from GW, so no ******* wonder why we picked what we picked..
M.Corp did loose ships fighting ASS, and much respect for them for trying to rid us of these pests. But having Velios on the invasion forces memberslist (telling non of the K/F leaders of the coming invasion), refusing to fire on BOS (having hired them in the first place to attack F), kinda spoke loud enough for where M.Corp's loyalties will lie with our 'new' neighbours.
Just too orangey for crows. |

Liare
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Posted - 2005.04.08 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jaisan
Originally by: Arathian Evasion and then on the last day, in that so called 5 hours period, Jaisan acused us for being spies,(while losing ships for them) our rights got revoked from GW, so no ******* wonder why we picked what we picked..
M.Corp did loose ships fighting ASS, and much respect for them for trying to rid us of these pests. But having Velios on the invasion forces memberslist (telling non of the K/F leaders of the coming invasion), refusing to fire on BOS (having hired them in the first place to attack F), kinda spoke loud enough for where M.Corp's loyalties will lie with our 'new' neighbours.
thats rich, Black Omega Security came on their own accord as Coretech,QT and Softice was packing up and leaving. furthermore my impression is that M corp came on their own accord to assist did they not ? surely you have little autority over a seperate entity from Foundation. _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people. |

Drilla
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Posted - 2005.04.08 11:49:00 -
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Afaik Blitz0r hired BOS to help in GW - so that's why BOS was there.
I was in M. Corp TS when they were kicked out of Foundation channels, at that time they had not chosen any sides and were remaining neutral. They had not disclosed any info with me what so ever (I wasn't even registred so I could only talk to them in the welcome room and I was talking to Velios who wasn't even logged into EVE.
Then Foundation accused M. of being spies, as a natural cause I said to Velios it seems you dont have to choose sides - Foundation did that for you and they decided to defend they name and rid the universe of the childish Foundation.
I fully respect M. Corp when they were neutral and I enjoy flying with them now.
To sum it all up - Foundation is just ****ed that they are reaping what they sowed. Xetic's lame SCA defence pact fell through (as I told Foundation it would).
To quote a famous old movie: Reap it - REAP IT. (young guns).
P.S. If any foundation wants to leave GW and Foundation talk to me and I'll try to set somthing up so you can leave unharmed. - *** pure moinage ***
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2005.04.08 13:47:00 -
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At the moment anyone in GW can leave whenever they want, just have to tell Foundation of that fact... if it happens to be one of those rare moments where a Shnra blob is flying through the GW, I will tell them to wait 5 minutes till you guys fly right back into GW.. Problem is that Shnra doesn't really like to be in GW with a small gang, so they will only be there when they have the numbers to field 35 and make sure they leave very quickly again as soon as some have to go to dinner... I have full respect for this, it is only a game and Dinner has to come first.
Regards, (of course personal oppinions only)
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Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.04.08 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Afaik Blitz0r hired BOS to help in GW - so that's why BOS was there.
I was in M. Corp TS when they were kicked out of Foundation channels, at that time they had not chosen any sides and were remaining neutral. They had not disclosed any info with me what so ever (I wasn't even registred so I could only talk to them in the welcome room and I was talking to Velios who wasn't even logged into EVE.
Seeing as you was with them at the time, you would also know that they where only kicked from the channels AFTER they attacked our pilots.
Originally by: Drilla Then Foundation accused M. of being spies, as a natural cause I said to Velios it seems you dont have to choose sides - Foundation did that for you and they decided to defend they name and rid the universe of the childish Foundation.
I'm still waiting for Velios to explain his membership of the invasion forces forums.
You are the childish one Drilla, and your fixation with wanting to kill ALTZ for standing up to your bull.
Originally by: Drilla P.S. If any foundation wants to leave GW and Foundation talk to me and I'll try to set somthing up so you can leave unharmed.
I think you will find our pilots would rather stick a fork in their eye than come crawling to you.
Just too orangey for crows. |

Trilluim
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Posted - 2005.04.08 20:12:00 -
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There are many levels of membership within a forum. More importantly, being a member of an entity's forum hardly incriminates one as a member of the entity itself. A request for an explanation of such is hardly a sound defense for accusing someone of spying, if that is the intent. Far better would be to produce evidence from said forums of spying. Something tells me such evidence doesn't exist. How can one be sure that a person is not spying for the entity's adversary? Given the reports of M.Corp support in GW, I find accustations of spying based on forum membership to be quite petty at best - a strong reinforcement of the alleged less than courteous attitude coming from Foundation. Nevertheless, weightless accusations of spying are peripheral.
Considering the reserved (to put it euphemistically) outlook from Foundation towards M. Corp previous to the recent hostilities despite M.'s work in the defense of GW regardless of having moved out, this outcome is not at all surprising to me.
All "fork-in-their-eye" bravado aside, I've been observing this GW conflict from its infancy in differences of opinion, through the broken NAP, the more recent MDP, up to now. Keiretsu has compromised (for easier access to megacyte?) so much of what it initially claimed so strongly to be that it might as well retire the Keiretsu name, disband and just join Foundation. If it doesn't, it will most certainly be dubbed by many the dubious honour of titles along such lines as Foundation Lapdogs or worse. One thing is for sure by most accounts: they have become more Foundation than anything else at this point - not Keiretsu.
If the Thukkers are still working with Keiretsu, they must really be embarrassed.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.04.08 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Drilla on 08/04/2005 20:35:22 Lol Jaisan - try again and this time dont make up stuff.
Here's some cheese for your whine.
And Velios has had a account on that forum since CA as it was a forum used back in CA. So does a lot of other ex-CA who are not a part of the corps in HLW. - *** pure moinage ***
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Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.04.08 21:04:00 -
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Does Sotto Capo mean 'Full of S**T' ?
Just too orangey for crows. |

Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.04.08 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jaisan Does Sotto Capo mean 'Full of S**T' ?
You are a class act.
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.04.08 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Draco
Originally by: Jaisan Does Sotto Capo mean 'Full of S**T' ?
You are a class act.
Ur being too kind to Jaisan dude. But in fairness he is class and does display that class in a right well way. I on the other hand prefere the crude method of saying Drill is an asshat .
This is more enjoyable but unfortunately a little bird told me Drilla dont understand wot im saying so ill translate:
Moin..... moinmoinmoinmoin, moin moinnnnnnn moin moin MOIN!!!! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.04.08 21:36:00 -
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Is Jaisan the same guy that left a load of jet cans by the VOL gate in HLW with bizarre statements on them? Like Death to Shinra and other wierd stuff. Honestly mate, the workings of your head are beyond many of us!
I'm not going to engage a buffoon like you in conversation here, I don't feel the need to explain anything to someone like you. I'll simply say that you are wrong about so many things... You seem to get an idea in your head then print it here as if it were fact.
Just play the game and fight us, rather than freaking us all out with your wierdness.  |

Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.04.09 01:33:00 -
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Jaisan is a pre pubescent American who lacks any sense of a "life" whatsoever, so he has made it his mission, though unsuccessful, to wittingly think like members of ATUK/Shinra/etc. and win forum wars.
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