^^ This ^^ :)

THIS^ right there ^

is why Local should be removed in 0.0 space.

Think of all the great emergent gameplay.

absolute rubbish

high sec players have a right to play how they want to

they pay to play

not pay to play your version of eve

Because the 'feared, immortal space demi-gods' are most often working for them? General Dynamics works for the US government, and they seem to have no problem setting up bomb factories. Besides, there are SOME liberties taken to make a playable game, the idea is not to take the liberties too far. That is, if I'm not mistaken, why most people find real-world analogies suspect, is it not?

The issue is everyone blues each other and then runs out of targets, hostile gangs come in and get bobbed and dont come back. null sec screwed itself and blame high sec

stupid argument

Absolute rubbish again

if you want to gank a mackinaw it should take an expensive ship, not a throwaway destroyer to cause billions in damages, eve is harsh, nothing is easy

ofc they asked for a buff

why should you have it easy?

and this means what?

or just another goon idiot twisting words?

pvp pilots have it easy, u say *thats just eve* they give miners more protection you say *omg wtfbbqcryhader*

keep replying, im gonna sit here and tear every argument down to its base fact and prove you wrong

Oh look its the ignoring "risk versus rewards" fallacy: cheap ships killing vastly more expensive ships... see what I did there?

why not? shouldnt you be in previous null fighting the baddies?

why you in empire? To grief, thats why

Your not pvpes, your blobbers and run when the fight gets tough

goons has been kicked down so many times and the only reason ur here now is you surrounded yourself with massive allies

idiot

yes lets make bs killable in frigs

none of you have any basis of argument other than butthurt bullshite

PVP pilot can gank a mackinaw in a destroyer *thats just eve, get used to it*

CCP ten buffs mining barges u have to actually spend to gank expensive ships and you go *omg thats not fair, u took our toys away, damn you, we hate you, JIHAD*

grow up :) U wanna pvp in high sec without war decs, use big ships n spend money doing it

if a pvp pilot finds summit easy, hes happy, if its difficult, its broken

stupid reasoning

ill respond to that as a question

what is a null sec pilot doing in empire looking for pvp?

when u answer that, ull have your own answer

and you run to the forums and try to get high sec nerfed so u can go back to nailing barges with ease and laugh as the miners stop mining because they just die non stop, mineral prices go up, ship prices go up, everything goes up and then ur back here in two months time complaining

id love to see u troll a rl carbear at fanfest, specially one u killed, i saw a pvper do that at the last fanfest outside a hotel, called him a noob and smiled, he wasnt smiling when the guy broke his nose in one hit.

your all just cowards who gank those who cant fight bk

[Indeed. I owned a cat, a horse, 3 budgies and a dog once. I am therefore a vet. (<< pun intended)

Anybody can see who there is to shoot at just by looking at local.

Cutting both ways again, sweet pea.

Look I can understand some of you nullsec guys don't like the idea of no local because you won't have an instant intel tool. Even you lowsec guys won't see that local spike coming to bust up your camp so you can dock in your orca and hide in high sec.

So here's some advice for you guys.

1. Don't undock in anything you can't afford to lose.
2. Always stay aligned.
3. Learn to fit for PVP. Use your lows and mids for actual tank, warp stabs, and such other related modules instead of just fitting for maximum gank.
4. Get a scout alt to monitor adjacent systems.
5. Mash the D-Scan until your finger falls off.



These methods work in highsec. I know this because this is something like the same list I have seen handed from null and lowsec uber leet superhuman PVPers to people in highsec. So it MUST be good, right?


Oh and if you don't like your own medicine: >>>>>> WOW >>>>>>>

No Local:

A defender does not know if someone has entered the system. They must take precautions.
An offender does not know if someone is in the system they entered. They must hunt.

Attacker has to either be very skilled at using d-scan or drop combat probes, and hunt someone down.

Defender mashes d-scan 360 degrees and leaves as soon as anything shows up.

Explain how it is at all slanted towards the attacker.

Balance in this case is going to need some give and some take. To balance out the inflation of increasing rat bounties in nullsec, highsec would need a bigger isk sink, like increase station service fees, or isk costs in LP stores. If you add ore to nullsec, you have to take some from highsec or increase mineral costs for production, increase mineral loss or lower refinery yields.

And realistically, there should be some higher costs associated with living in the nice neighborhood of Eve.