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Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:02:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Nanatoa wrote:OP fails to realize that downtime at the moment consistently occurs when there are the least people online in the daily cycle. To be totally fair this is a bit of a straw argument as you schedule downtime for any time during the day and it will soon become the least busy time. OP is still wrong, but this isnt why.
Are you saying I am trolling?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
5379
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:22:00 -
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Since CCP is working towards "no DT" I think this will become a redundant thread - except on expansion day since that will be euro time most likely.
/c
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Caldaricitizen 445820458
EVE Corporation 6908469803
14
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:31:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:And what do you think those of us in Europe who, you know, work do?
:frogout:
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10203
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:38:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:To be totally fair this is a bit of a straw argument as you schedule downtime for any time during the day and it will soon become the least busy time.
OP is still wrong, but this isnt why. No, it's a pretty relevant piece of the puzzle.
People would not change continents just because the DT changed, and as it is, the parts of the world that have downtime in the middle of their peak hours are also the parts of the world that has the fewest players.
Caldaricitizen 445820458 wrote:I don't work, only fools work and being a fool is not my fault. Oh, don't worry. You'll stop being foolish soon enough.
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Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
872
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:47:00 -
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DT is fine how it is. Whats wrong is spawning mechanics after a restart. |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
10
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:04:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:
Signed
-The Majority
I don't see a majority here anywhere... does anyone else see it? Perhaps I'm missing something.
FYI, I'm Australian. Downtime here starts at 9pm, 2100 hours for those of you used to 24 hour time. It's actually quite convenient - gives me a reason to have a shower and some dinner. That's not to say I do nothing else with the rest of my day, but it doesn't really matter anyway.
I am 12 and what is this?? |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
1617
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:11:00 -
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It sounds to me that OP woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning...
(I slept like a rock, being in Europe and having EVE waiting for me)
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Dray
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
34
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:21:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:the one that beat your ancestors like a red headed stepchild in 1775-1783
Hi my name is Ho Chi Min and you are my ginger stepchild, DT is fine the way it is or do you want another slap?
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
333
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:To be totally fair this is a bit of a straw argument as you schedule downtime for any time during the day and it will soon become the least busy time.
OP is still wrong, but this isnt why. No, it's a pretty relevant piece of the puzzle. People would not change continents just because the DT changed, and as it is, the parts of the world that have downtime in the middle of their peak hours are also the parts of the world that has the fewest players. Caldaricitizen 445820458 wrote:I don't work, only fools work and being a fool is not my fault. Oh, don't worry. You'll stop being foolish soon enough.
You put downtime at 19:00 and I can guarantee you'll see a drop of players just before and just after it. I agree it would "naturally" be a quiet time of the day anyway, but any time of the day would be quiet if you put downtime in it.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:47:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Since CCP is working towards "no DT" I think this will become a redundant thread - except on expansion day since that will be euro time most likely.
/c
Although "no downtime" is a long term goal, in the mean time it would be nice to have spawns not tied to the daily cycle. A better solution than changing downtime would be to divorce the re-spawn mechanics from the downtime cycle. I know anomalies and sigs already spawn any time. I think the public belts are the only thing still tied to downtime. (What else?) So CCP, how about making belts regenerate continuously, not just at downtime? If you are going to get rid of downtime its something you need to do in any case.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
979
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:59:00 -
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I could understand this a year or two ago, with hour-long downtimes. Nowadays? Really? It's 10 minutes or less most days. Go grab a beer or something. I play around downtime quite often too, and it has never been bothering me. |
Area51
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 13:12:00 -
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I think its convenient for us in East Asia too! Downtime is 7pm for me, so it gives me time to eat dinner from getting home from work, server's up usually at 7:30 and it gives me a few hours to play before sleeping!
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Alec Freeman
The Dark Space Initiative
138
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Posted - 2012.11.01 13:56:00 -
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Confirming not being able to log on and change my skill que when I wake up at 10AM is a pain |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1823
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:00:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:
Signed
-The Majority
It has been made quite clear in this thread that you do not speak for any majority. Pretty arrogant of you to imply that you do. The daily server resets are something that needs to be done and changing that will not happen, nor should it. Not to mention making it an odd number like 30 would completely screw with things like Sov Warfare.
No thank you...have a nice day.
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flakeys
Angels of Anarchy
Interstellar Confederation
391
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:01:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
How on earth do the EUTZ benefit from a downtime at 11am? I am currently sitting at work wondering how all these things respawning etc in an hour benefits me in any way.
In fact the best way to benefit the EUTZ would be to have the downtime at about 17:30 EVE time, that way it can all be up and ready just as we come home from work and have eaten a meal.
0/10 for OP
European with a rare free day here and i would LOVE such a change indeed . Delay downtime to 1800 eve time please CCP so i can enjoy fresh spawns after work.
There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
Intrepid Crossing
450
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:04:00 -
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Tubrug1 wrote:Moving yourself to Europe would be more pratical than what you suggested.
The way things are going politically, I may be able to claim asylum from religious persecution in England before long. You guys leave a light on for me, would you?
Also, @ the OP: No. I wish my company could turn our systems off at 11:am instead of 2:30 in the morning so I would never again have to log in in the middle of a deep sleep just to patch an application.
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ISD BiscuitThief
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
9
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:23:00 -
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Downtime is a lot less than it used to be when I started, though 10 minutes is still too much time for me to not be shooting rocks and stuff.
Fortunately, this is something CCP is already working on, there was a blog post about it couple years back. Problem is, things take time, and I imagine CCP to be an elite athlete - the first 90% is easier to accomplish than the last 10%.
I'd give them a little more time, I'm sure we'll all be basking in zero downtime goodness soonGäó, which I'd say is a better scenario than a rolling downtime.
ISD BiscuitThief
Ensign
Community Communication Liasons (CCLs)
Interstellar Service Department |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
963
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:29:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:as it stands now, euros get a big benefit to the server uptime cycle, sites respawn, sov upgrades respawn, ded complexes and grav sites respawn, and all convieniently at ~10AM
.....exactly when most Euro's are at work or at school.
If you want to uselessly complain about this issue, you should focus on the Austrailians. They are right in the middle of their prime time evening when DT occurs. Primed and waiting.
But, I'm not complaining.
But, no matter when DT occurs someone will be affected, even if it is rotated around.
The complaints would still happen. Nothing would be solved still.
Useless pointless thread is useless pointless thread. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
963
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:33:00 -
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ISD BiscuitThief wrote:
I'd give them a little more time, I'm sure we'll all be basking in zero downtime goodness soonGäó, which I'd say is a better scenario than a rolling downtime.
Yup. I remember reading about the zero DT as well.
With the current system, I don't see how that is possible without a 2nd server. Which of course brings up the idea of ......
SHARDS !
I didn't really say that did I ? |
Mirajane Cromwell
94
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:35:00 -
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The last time I checked how long DT is, it was 7 minutes... So I think they're right on track at getting rid of DT completely. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
1755
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:38:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Fucks Given?
Signed
Euro
This is the best quote I've made all year.
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Kenneth O'Hara
Remus Exploration Outfitters
3078
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Posted - 2012.11.01 17:48:00 -
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man, this is getting as bad as the QQers on WoW. Go on. go find something else to QQ about.
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
431
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
Well what do you care, you are sleeping when its DT or getting ready for work.
That's his point though.
CCP should change the way that exploration sites work. Either make them more persistant so they aren't being consumed within a few hours of the server coming up, or have new sites spawn later in the day.
I don't think that CCP needs to change when they do downtime. I'm sure, like most MMO's the downtime is based on when it effects the least number of people, and doesn't require CCP to work odd hours just to run the game.
I don't think that people who aren't able to log into the game until 8 hours after downtime should be restricted from content because they live in a TZ that that either has them sleeping or working. If you're not playing right after downtime it can be an incredible chore to actually find exploration sites because they're consumed so quickly. I'm sure people are able to find some though, just not nearly as many as there are within the first hour that the server comes back up.
I would think that exploration sites that had enough content in them to last a good portion of the day would actualy create more conflict between high sec players. Make them last longer and make them function like low or null sec so people can shoot each other to clear the sites for themselves. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
120
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Posted - 2012.11.01 18:51:00 -
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I am down for a longer uptime. How about 47 of 48 hours? |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:22:00 -
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I left a tooth under my pillow for the tooth fairy to leave me a quarter. I expect to see the OP anytime... |
Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
274
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:54:00 -
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I too wish to demand 24/hr a day service....
OP: Your asking the Devs to go on a 30 hour day, for your convenience... If you're willing to do the same, the Dev's don't have too, problem solved....
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
438
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:12:00 -
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It seems everyone is disregarding what the OP is really complaining about.
It's not really the downtime. It's that consumable content is consumed shortly after downtime because that's when it's refreshed, and a lot of people aren't able to participate in that content because it's gone when they're able to play.
His 30 hour idea, while not good, was just his idea of how to allow a fairer chance for people who are either asleep or working for those hours shortly after downtime to be able allowed a chance to also participate in that content.
No downtime wouldn't fix the issue because one would assume that that content would just refresh at around the same time every day, regardless of whether or not the server has to be restarted or not.
Does every asteroid belt have to respawn with downtime? Do all exploration sites have to respawn during downtime?
Would it be possible to one day see belts that don't spawn after downtime but instead respawn like 8 hours after; same with explorations sites and other consumable content?
Guys living in the US west coast TZ are at huge disadvantage as compared to say someone in the Aussie TZ, or me on the US east coast and is retired.
Imagine if something like lvl 4 missions were only doable by a single person; once done it's not available to another person until after the next downtime. The only people with access to lvl 4 missions would be those of us not sleeping or working when the server comes up.
Seems like one of the most reasonable things to complain about if you ask me. It's better than 99% of the other stuff people ***** abut around here. |
Generals4
1550
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:51:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:as it stands now, euros get a big benefit to the server uptime cycle, sites respawn, sov upgrades respawn, ded complexes and grav sites respawn, and all convieniently at ~10AM
EVERY DAY
meanwhile, around the entire rest of the planet, north and south america is falling asleep from an allnighter, oceanic and east asian TZ are hitting midnight, and rest of russia is heading into late evening
EVERY DAY
I get that your an icelandic company, and you been doing it this way for 9 years
but you should consider that you are screwing over 75% of the earth (and probalby an even larger percentage of your playerbase) just cos thats when is convienient to you.
I suggest considering 30 hour server uptime, so the pain, and the joy, of logging in at your prime time and having all the fresh sites to yourself, can be felt by the rest of us
Signed
-The Majority
I was under the impression that anoms (at least explo anoms) respawned in "random" systems right after being completed ?
I would also note that except during the week end and for college students 10 AM (or 1PM in my case) is all but convenient.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
635
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:23:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Fucks Given?
Signed
Euro
None,
Signed
NA (without a sense of entitlement).
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
96
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Posted - 2012.11.01 23:03:00 -
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Gibbo5771 wrote:Actually all sites and anomalies are spawned every 1, 3, 6 or 12 hours. Randomizes.
So go away.
Wow logic and reason didn't even make the first page. |
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