That'd be an interesting mechanic, but it'd be pointless, since shields would negate all subcapital damage anyway before they impacted. Besides, anything subcap (except MAYBE a nightmare) wouldn't be able to take the damage as it warmed up. I'll think of a way it could possibly fit, though.

Well, I was intending for this to be sansha ships only, seeing as how their in game description states that their design gives them tremendous amounts of structural integrity. I was simply looking forward for the wicked protrusions that the sansha ships sported to be used in some fashion. And obviously, neither would ramming with caps work while the shields are still up.

I agree with whoever that said this should be a skill that can't be used by trail accounts, also, I like the Ramming skill being intertwined (or whatever) with the Kamikaze skill, But I was thinking that Ramming should also be a perquisite to Kamikaze (makes to anyyone else?) Caldain, you made some damn good points with the only way to slowing down a cap thats on a kami-run by maneuvering your ship in front of its path, and maybe you could slow it down further by setting your own collision course towards it? But I think if a frigate collides with any ship besides another frigate would pretty much be instadeath for frigate due to the sheer difference of mass (not guaranteed death, but almost always). For instance a rifter can slam into a Typhoon, the Typhoon be badly if not critically damaged, but there would be no more rifter. Can't think of much more ideas right now, like the spitballin we got tho :D

One thought that crosses my mind is this:

-once a kamikaze run is initiated a message goes out warning of it cross system or battle, etc. "X is initiating a suicide run ZOMG RUN!!!!!"
-base damage off lowest mass. IE run over a rifter during the run and there's a chance they'll survive, damaged and kiting off in a new direction but still alive.
-during a run ANYONE hit along the way gets/give damage. And hinders the runner. (IE BS's throwing them selves in the way or some other such noble nonsense or, conversely, not getting out of the way in time.)
-calculate damage based on relative speeds. IE: if I'm running away I reduce the damage.
-Also what would the damage output of a Rifter be anyway?

I like the idea of a manual eject as well.

No trial accounts, and at least 30 days of prerequisite skills to train.

probably the biggest issue with a ramming mechanic would be that if someone put a cruiser micro on a frig or a BS micto on a cruiser the momentum would ramp up to a heck of a lot more than would be reasonable.

The danger would be that a mass of frigs or cruisers set up the above way could be rediculously dangerous. one of the more important things for it would probably be to try to balance the way the damage is dealt seeing as if you were to use 1 kgms^-1 =1damage a ramming titan would be absolutely insanely dangerous, probably the best option would be to hardcap the damage to the ramming ship's max HP or current HP

capital only would limit it too much though, where's the fun in capital only

Even if it was capital only you'd still have to be very careful with the momentum to damage ratios

I'd love this but it wouldn't be feasible on anything smaller than a capital class ship because some idiot would use this in a highsec then complain about the concordokens...


And if it hasn't be added to the idea yet, should upon contact with the shield/ship itself emit an AOE to the general area based on ship class (carrier/dread - 10 km, supercarrier - 25km, titan -45km) or something like that. Debris doesn't stop after impacting just one object. Be nice if the aoe damage degraded with range too.

Sorry to go on with the sub cap idea, but I do enjoy the idea of other ships flying straight into the cross fire hoping to hit something. I remember the A-Wing from Star Wars VI going into the Super Star Destroyer command. Could make it entirely useless for a subcap to ram or kamikaze into anything larger than them, but effecting the ratios on whatever ship you're flying. Or change the 20,000 to a percentage so it can be applied to other ships.

I just want to be able to ram into stuff on anything. xD Doesn't matter if it does damage or not. Only then will I ascend to true Orkyness.

If they did implement collision damage, it should be for all ships, not just capitals. But then they could give you your ramming skill for caps. I figure they could just add skills like collision damage mitigation and avoidance, along with affects of shields on collision.

People talk about small ships torpedoing, but I would think that a frig running into a larger ship with adequate shielding would have most of the impact negated. They would also need to consider all of the other factors that arise with collision damage, such as station (Jita) undocking. So maybe a station buffer that prevents bump damage until you get > 0 from the station.

I've already said most of what you just said.

Also, there was an idea about a special t2 dessie that would be "optimized" for ramming. How's about instead of t2, create a second tier of destroyer that would be optimized for ramming. This would lower the cost and help make this a more effective tactic.

EDIT: El Quirko, shoot me a convo later. I want this to legitly get in Assembly Hall.