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Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
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Posted - 2012.11.03 12:33:00 -
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If you like Skyrim or if you are fan of Elider Of Scrolls saga, here some details about this incoming mmo, however this game is still in Alpha or beta version, good video interview, with guy who got ability to test it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI&feature=g-vrec
Just sharing information.
Cheers
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Elias Greyhand
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.03 12:50:00 -
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"I gotta baaaaad feelin' 'bout dis!"
"The louder they spoke of their honour, the faster we counted the spoons."
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.11.03 13:57:00 -
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I'll do what I always do these days with new MMOs. Ignore all the prelaunch hype and see what people have to say about the game a few months after release. This way you'll skip all the bullshit you get fed prelaunch and all the launch related shananigans. By then people have also gotten over the honeymoon period of a new MMO, so they are better able to form a realiable view of the game with all the good and bad it entails. If it still sounds like a solid and interesting game, I'll give it a go. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.03 17:34:00 -
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Game companies need to realize the corporate tendency to copy something else which made money to make make more money doesn't work with MMOs.
The less your game is like WoW the more likely it is to succeed. We want new things.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.11.03 17:38:00 -
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If you like Skyrim then stay way from this game because other than lore the 2 are nothing alike. |
Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
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Posted - 2012.11.03 19:43:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Game companies need to realize the corporate tendency to copy something else which made money to make make more money doesn't work with MMOs.
The less your game is like WoW the more likely it is to succeed. We want new things.
Is realy hard to create somthing orginal, All games like Rift, WOW, Lineage, Srtarwars, Startrek online, Age of conan etc are copy of copy.
Meny Devs focus more on own corporation wallet than in game it self, but life is brutal, comercy, greed etc, here few game companys who realy love and care about own products, sadly in most cases good games made with love, offer only single player mode while most mmos are crap.
I have no idea how this Elder of scrols online went, just sharing information about it, if somone are interesed, that all ;]
If it bleed we can kill it. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.11.04 03:46:00 -
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Just making a game or an MMO, is already copy catting.
I'm not shitposting. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.04 04:18:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:I'll do what I always do these days with new MMOs. Ignore all the prelaunch hype and see what people have to say about the game a few months after release. This way you'll skip all the bullshit you get fed prelaunch and all the launch related shananigans. By then people have also gotten over the honeymoon period of a new MMO, so they are better able to form a realiable view of the game with all the good and bad it entails. If it still sounds like a solid and interesting game, I'll give it a go.
Your post reflects your avatar o7
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Jesuis Cache-Cache
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Posted - 2012.11.04 05:01:00 -
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I am quite the fan of TES. Especially Skyrim. I started a Dead Is Dead Thread on the day of release. I await the next expansion. However, I am not the least bit interested in this...what ever it supposed to be.
EVE is the only MMO I have ever played and I don't even see it as such.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
~ Rich Cook |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.04 05:07:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Just making a game or an MMO, is already copy catting.
I mean more like the difference between EVE and WoW. One of this games strongest selling points is that it's completely unique. And there's games like The Secret World coming out which are many times better than WoW in that style of game, but i think would have gotten more recognition if they deviated even further from the standard EQ/WoW model.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
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Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.04 05:17:00 -
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Had hopes.
Lost.
Yet another game for "general audience" i.e. WoW playerz, not TES fan base.
1. general audience targeted
2. single player instancing
3. play the hero and no neutral or evil alignment/style (eg assassin in shining armor lol)
4. WoW style character class system (Not skill tree system)
5. greatest competition: my little pony online
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Ares Desideratus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:49:00 -
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Game devs are so ridiculously stupid, like unbelievably dumb and pathetic... well, most game devs 
disgraceful. elder scrolls online is just completely facepalm worthy. no discussion required, just shake your head and walk out. pure stupidity. |
baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.11.04 17:08:00 -
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Webvan wrote:
5. greatest competition: my little pony online
Went looking, found its a real thing. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2012.11.04 20:41:00 -
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Enjoyed II & III (Daggerfall & Morrow Wind) have'nt bothered with the franchise since tho.
baltec1 wrote:Webvan wrote:
5. greatest competition: my little pony online
Went looking, found its a real thing.
You should check out care-a-lot land .. you'll love it. |
Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.05 01:43:00 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Game devs are so ridiculously stupid, like unbelievably dumb and pathetic... well, most game devs disgraceful. elder scrolls online is just completely facepalm worthy. no discussion required, just shake your head and walk out. pure stupidity. nonono it could be done, it just can't be done. mmo's have become too fashionable, mainstream, and casual cash cows. It's not just TES having problems, but most any mmo going into development the past five+ years or so. So we don't see anything truly epic any longer like UO, SWG, DAoC, EQ1 etc. at least not by AAA developers with armies of investors, lawyers, psychologists and marketing analysts. And even those mentioned fell into the emergent trend at some point, revamped then mostly died off.
Hardcore and core mmo's are more suited to the limitations of indies at this point, and their lack of armies to tell them "what we want" or the only "viable market target" acceptable for the investors. At least indies focused on retaining players for the long duration rather than a fast payout and quick turnover. It's the difference between seeing the slow gradual steady growth of games like EVE (CCP being a successful indie) compared to the huge box sales of swtor and inevitable die off.
imo TES Online would have been more likely to fit the TES fan base target if done after the release of Morrowind as many wanted back then. Rather simple, sandbox, focused on life in the gameworld and player interaction. Now that's impossible, it just couldn't get funded. Casual players expect a lot now, at release, or they will quit in a month rather than three, and will complain if it's challenging and takes time investment of more than ninety days to cap. That's not good for market analysis, investors back off. |
baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2012.11.05 02:44:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:You should check out care-a-lot land .. you'll love it.
Lacks ponies. Princess luna would eat that lot alive. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
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Posted - 2012.11.05 09:50:00 -
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It is not TES that so many of it fans love and been playing dor more than 15 years , it is a attempt to cash in on tjhe MMO market
It is a remake of a a older came doac with a slight TES flavour
Fixed factions depending on your race , predetermined classes ,a lore rewritten so it matches the MMO , just to name some of the things that i so resent about ESO
It might bear its name but it will not be TES
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Samoth Egnoled
The Condemned and Convicted
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Posted - 2012.11.05 10:23:00 -
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I'm not really looking forward to TES online.
I love TES series, and get pretty immersed in the world sometimes just reading the books ingame and such, but i end up heavily modding my games, because of something that annoys me, like originally not being able to make arrows.
Here I go,
so dishonestly leave a note, for you my only one,
and i know you can see right through me,
so let me go and you will find someone. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.11.05 11:04:00 -
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Samoth Egnoled wrote:I'm not really looking forward to TES online.
I love TES series, and get pretty immersed in the world sometimes just reading the books ingame and such, but i end up heavily modding my games, because of something that annoys me, like originally not being able to make arrows.
My feelings are pretty much the same. TES series is what it is today because of the moddability of the game. It keeps them alive until the next game is released and even after, since you can mod it to be an entirely different type of game if you want to. The vanilla versions have always been well made games on their own, but also have always had some serious flaws. To Bethesda's credit they listen to their players and include the popular mods in their updates(like arrow crafting) or new games, so every new game in the series is mostly an improvement over the previous game in the franchise as far as gameplay and immersion is concerned.
ESO seems to make the mistake in thinking, that I play TES series because of the lore and will be happy to play any type of game set in the same universe. To me the appeal of TES is all about the sandbox, the freedom to do anything you want with minimal limitations, the unique character development and the moddability. Their game doesn't even aim to offer that and instead have opted to mimic what other games have done in the past. It may be a good game, but as a TES fan I have very little interest in the game they're intent on making. |
Alice Saki
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Posted - 2012.11.05 11:07:00 -
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I do enjoy these games but I find it hard to finish them... I never did finish Oblivion xD
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Webvan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.05 13:07:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:I do enjoy these games but I find it hard to finish them... I never did finish Oblivion xD
Can you "finish" oblivion? At least I never did, not everything. Main story, Isles, assassins guild and knights of the nine, three times. Probably 70% of the rest of the content maybe once. Then a bunch of mods including the archeologists guild.
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As for TES being about mods, I agree. And really this can be done in an mmo. I suggested that in some early dev news forum regarding TES online. You have like EQ2 and Ryzom doing something with content development in-game tools. Older examples like second life... but not that open of course but with existing assets and a fair scripting language. Have a core game and then allow players to build around that, mostly instanced of course but with full old school raid group size limits (though not necessarily raid groups). From dungeons to guild owned towns, a complete creative package.
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pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
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Posted - 2012.11.05 14:28:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Alice Saki wrote:I do enjoy these games but I find it hard to finish them... I never did finish Oblivion xD Can you "finish" oblivion? At least I never did, not everything. Main story, Isles, assassins guild and knights of the nine, three times. Probably 70% of the rest of the content maybe once. Then a bunch of mods including the archeologists guild. -
same here Oblivion is still on my machine since the first day it was installed almost 6 years ago.. ok i bought a new pc but it was one of the first things i installed on it , I have afew thousand hours probably on it and i still have open quest lines , same with skyrim , not that many hours but still
and with mods you add even more things todo
what i am really intrested in is the news that somebody is actually rebuilding morrowwind around the skyrim game engine , some of the screenshots just look awesome ; atleast the screenshots shown on steam and i can't acces steam at work sadly or i linked them
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Jesuis Cache-Cache
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Posted - 2012.11.05 14:36:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:what i am really intrested in is the news that somebody is actually rebuilding morrowwind around the skyrim game engine , some of the screenshots just look awesome ; atleast the screenshots shown on steam and i can't acces steam at work sadly or i linked them
Look here
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
~ Rich Cook |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:01:00 -
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Jesuis Cache-Cache wrote:pussnheels wrote:what i am really intrested in is the news that somebody is actually rebuilding morrowwind around the skyrim game engine , some of the screenshots just look awesome ; atleast the screenshots shown on steam and i can't acces steam at work sadly or i linked them Look here
That's awesome. I hope they actually finish it at some point, since I have serious issues getting Morrowind to work properly. It would be so convenient to have it be upgraded to modern standards and work flawlessly without workarounds. |
Jesuis Cache-Cache
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:33:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:That's awesome. I hope they actually finish it at some point, since I have serious issues getting Morrowind to work properly. It would be so convenient to have it be upgraded to modern standards and work flawlessly without workarounds. Also this was released today, so I guess Beth just made their job a lot easier. 
Now..THAT is something to get excited about! I have over 2000 hrs logged into Skyrim already, I see many many more ahead.
Thank you for that. I have been away from the Beth forums for quite some time now. I should pay the old gang a visit.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
~ Rich Cook |
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