Syrec
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Posted - 2005.04.09 22:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Winged Mailer
Greetings!
Hello to you!
Originally by: Winged Mailer
I just thought I'd throw in a couple words on non-consentual PvP. In my humble opinion, this is a potential game killer-in fact, it's slowly eroding at the fabric of this game as we speak. Here are the main points:
Already I disagree. The element of surprise is needed, as it makes the EVE universe more real for us all. A universe of pirates, fluxuating markets, and competeing corporations can only exhist in debth with non-consentual PVP. Nobody enjoys losing a ship, so what is consentual PVP? When is it OK for you to lose a ship. The game just wouldn't be very real if you couldn't plan a method of attack against your enemy's miners, transports, or fleets.
This is part of the universe. The economy revolves around it. We mine the minerals, to make the parts, to build the ships, to destroy in battle.
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1) Newbies are at a severe disadvantage if they join any corporation-they can be ganked without protection anytime that corporation has a war declared on it. Lack of new blood is the downfall of any guild(or corp) and the best most corps can hope for is stagnation.
Newbies might be over their heads, yes. This is why I suggest newbies stay in the NPC corporation for their learning time. They will know when they are ready to move out. The skill system dictates that people with 2 years are probably going to own someone with 2 months. If a corp is worth a newbie's time, that corp would protect, teach, and supply the newbie. What good is a corp if the newbie is the one taking the hits?? Defend your newbs!
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2) Veteran players who have opted to specialize in non-pvp skills are at a severe disadvantage. They are forced to either hide in stations during times of war or remain outside of corporations.
They are not forced to hide in stations. The undock button is always there and always available. I think even veteran scientists can manage to train some simply shield skills to defend their ships. If they are truely a valuable scientist, the corp's military wing should protect them. With all the money they make, they should be rich enough to hire mercs, get in a good corp, or whatever else floats their boat. Of coarse a scientist won't be as good in combat as a battleship pilot. It's a chosen profession. If scientists were as lethal as combat pilots, why would ANYONE train a combat pilot??
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In my humble opinion, there must be "safe spots" where players who do not wish to do PvP can survive, and even thrive inside of a corporation environment. Let's face it-if we wanted to play alone or vs a computer, we would be playing stand-alone games.
The EVE universe is pretty big. I think every player is capable of getting away from the action. Remember, they too are a part of that corporation. They chose to relate themselves to that corp, and the crimes or war of that corp will come onto them.
Also, this PVP is exactly why you don't play alone or vs a computer. Astroids are the computer, npc rats are the computer... getting PKd by a human is human. PVP is player interaction. Also, NPC corps have lots of people and they are usually VERY social. NPC corps aren't filled with npcs you know 
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I am personally watching my former corporation essentially disintegrate due to non-consentual PvP. We have recently lost 3/4 of our active membership.
I hope this isn't too straight forward for you, but it sounds like your corp is losing the war. Your enemies are winning. They must have played their cards right with very good strategies to effectively destroy your corporation. This is PVP! It's very intillectual you see? A few PKs aren't going to make a corp disband like yours. No no, your enemy has obviously thought things through and come up with a real solid battle plan.
This is EVE, player interaction at its finest. It's up to your CEO and your corp to make peace with whoever you are at war with. Let it be through bribes, negotiation, or more war... this is how these things go. A corp needs to be strong to survive in EVE.
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In closing I'ld like to say that I view PvP as being real similar to sex. If its non-consentual, it's just rape.
I think you're the only one here that thinks PVP is like sex.  That's just wierd!
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