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Kimaya
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Posted - 2005.04.09 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kimaya on 09/04/2005 05:58:52
Recently I was a participent of a ship destruction/pod killing:
2005.04.09 02:48:00
Victim: Kimaya
Corporation: Organized Chaos
Destroyed Type: Sigil
Solar System: MHC-R3
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Grim (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -1.9
Corporation: REQUIEM INC.
Ship Type: Tempest
Weapon Type: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I
Destroyed items:
Lot's O Stuff :-)
2005.04.09 02:48:00
Victim: Kimaya
Corporation: Organized Chaos
Destroyed Type: Capsule
Solar System: MHC-R3
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Ray Butts (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 1.2
Corporation: REQUIEM INC.
Ship Type: Wolf
Weapon Type: 280mm Howitzer Artillery II
I have no problem with the ship kill because I was flying in 0.0 and in my hauler. Besides that my main is an ebil piwate and i've been popping indies all week so it's cool. It's just I don't understand why they didn't try to ransom my pod? It was 0.0 so there's no flagging and no tanking sentry, they could have held me there and made a ton of isk of me. This isn't a flame or a whine post cause it was a good gank but I had 190mil in implants and I would have paid a hansom amount of isk to keep it. At least ransom the pod's then blow them up lol. (I never pod kill btw).
So what are your view's on pod killing? Are you for it or against it?
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.04.09 06:03:00 -
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In empire- no kill pod
In 0.0, unless they start begging i pod
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2005.04.09 06:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cowboy on 09/04/2005 06:08:57
As my CEO's bio states: "Show them no mercy for you shall receive none."
Pod kill anytime you can if your at war. As for pirate's I dunno. If you pay their ransom then no podding. If you don't well sorry junior.
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Kimaya
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Posted - 2005.04.09 08:20:00 -
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Yeah when I was at war with fa I podded every one of them I could find but as pirating goes I would think you would want to make some isk at the same time as killing people right? Mabye i'm just a carebear pirate but battleship's are expensive...
Organized Chaos...who doesn't love an oxymoron |
Rodge
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Posted - 2005.04.09 11:06:00 -
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Reqium Inc are made up of a lot of old VOTF guys.
They're pvpers, not pirates.
As such, they're unlikely to ever ransom anyone.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.04.09 11:09:00 -
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I always pod when I get the chance. I don't ransom simply because I can't be arsed to spend any time asking, so unless the target starts screaming like mad in local asking for a ransom they're going to wake up in a station. :)
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Pondor Stibbons
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Posted - 2005.04.09 11:25:00 -
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pirate is as pirate does......... anything they damn well choose?
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.04.09 11:43:00 -
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pod all the way...
hurts like hell.
d solo.
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Ramuh
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Posted - 2005.04.09 12:09:00 -
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If we scramble a pod we usually kill it before he would have a chance to say anything. If im close to it, I will just smartbomb it so he deffinatly wont have time to beg for his life. Still, in most cases I'd rather have 10 points.
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Leafo
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Posted - 2005.04.09 12:46:00 -
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Dunno about pirates as it is not my forte (other than shooting down some once and awhile  )
But while waging war we are out to make as much damage to the opponent as possible.
Nowadays a pod is sometimes "worth" more than the actual ship (clone + implants).
So yes, we always pod. As seen in last contracts 48.79% in podding percentage (Contract Statistics).
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Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2005.04.09 12:47:00 -
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Requim are Mercs, and in 0.0 everyone are Pirates. Live with it.
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Kimaya
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Posted - 2005.04.09 13:01:00 -
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Don't get me wrong I have no problem with being shot down and podded.
I'm not upset about losing the implants either anymore  .
Just was wondering everyone's views on the subject.
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hUssmann
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Posted - 2005.04.09 13:05:00 -
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I like the squishy sound   
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Lizaa
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Posted - 2005.04.09 13:13:00 -
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2005.04.09 09:10:00
Victim: Chance Fate
Corporation: Atlas Incorporated
Destroyed Type: Capsule
Solar System: EC-P8R
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Lizaa (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 1.7
Corporation: Dark Cartel
Ship Type: Raptor
Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I
i do it to collect the bodies..... it gets lonely late at night
Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ
Death is coming!!!!!
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.04.09 15:17:00 -
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I pod every time. They better be jumping before I target that pod or it pops.
Means nothing - they have clones... 
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.04.09 15:47:00 -
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Unless you have a really fast locking opponent, your pod will escape. That means alot of those people will fat bounties and implants are somewhat safe....unless you run into the oddball intie out there.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:12:00 -
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pod kill anywhere anytime and anyplace.
I harvest pods, not grain.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:12:00 -
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squish=a smiling happy kitten
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:53:00 -
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I always pod my enemies if I get the chance
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cummilla
Unless you have a really fast locking opponent, your pod will escape. That means alot of those people will fat bounties and implants are somewhat safe....unless you run into the oddball intie out there.
Good point. That's why we always move around with one pilot solely focusing on getting that egg!
Originally by: Alan Ford
In this case personified by an 'orrible **** - me! 8)
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Qayos
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Posted - 2005.04.09 19:14:00 -
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If you are a pirate, or a raving lunatic, or I think you are either of those, or are at war with me, then I'd probably pod you. Otherwise, no.
Pirate = Someone who prays on others to steal their cargo (and ship bits), and ransoms people for ISK.
Raving Lunatic = Psychotic mass murderers who kill for the sake of killing.
At War = Organization in a formal war, or who my corp has a KOS policy towards (an informal 0.0 war).
If you arent one of those three, and I don't think you are one of those three, I probably wouldn't even blow up your ship much less your pod. That statement about "everyone is a pirate in 0.0" is dead wrong.
Now IF I had an alt who may be a pirate... well, he'd ransom you if he can get a lock and WarpScram on you, and if he can't, he'd ask for ISK for not podding you, as he showed the first gesture of decency and you should reciprocate to ensure such decency continues should you encounter eachother again.
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Stars End
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Posted - 2005.04.09 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Stars End on 09/04/2005 23:43:03
As far as NOMADS, it really depends on the situation.
We will always try to ransom the pod, if not the ship where possible.
A couple of instances where we wont ransom a ship would be:
1. Pilot refuses convo/ransom.
2. Smack talk
With that in mind, once they are in their pod, we start it all over again:
1. smack talk will get you the quick trip home
2. refusing ransom/convo
And after all that, there are times when we will destroy your ship/pod even after we've started the ransom process:
1. Taking too long. We usually give a deadline. At this point we assume reinforcements are coming and do the classic "smash and grab"
2. Reinforcements arrive (asked for or not by the pilot being ransomed).
But it all comes down to a case by case basis. We try to hold to the honorable ideals of pirates, but its not always possible. Sentries, reinforcements, etc.
Take that for whats it worth, and see you space.
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Taaser
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Posted - 2005.04.09 23:43:00 -
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Give them a chance to pay up, ransom whenever possible, then be man or woman enough to let them go - unless of course they smack talk you 
I once ransomed a hauler with 250M Isk worth of assets in tow, he quickly paid me 200M Isk ransom, but then said You happy f*cker!?. Needless to say he lost 450M Isk during this event 
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.04.09 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Taaser
I once ransomed a hauler with 250M Isk worth of assets in tow, he quickly paid me 200M Isk ransom, but then said You happy f*cker!?. Needless to say he lost 450M Isk during this event
You stupid ****. Its sad that you're wearing the FoE tag with respectable pirates.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Taaser
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Posted - 2005.04.09 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Taaser on 10/04/2005 00:06:16
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
You stupid ****. Its sad that you're wearing the FoE tag with respectable pirates.
FoE, respectable? 
Mindlessly ganking neutrals, is NOT respectable by any means.
At least I gave this guy a chance to pay his way out of the situation. And I might add he was home free. He just screwed up with the smack talk during the process.
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Arkani Gera
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Posted - 2005.04.09 23:54:00 -
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a booming YAY! on that one, i just love flying the instapodders and painting the ship with podgel...
but if it's somewhere away from gates and stations and he's scrambled, then i'll ransom...starting to get a bit shallow in the ol' coffers nowadays 
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.04.10 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Taaser
FoE, respectable?
Mindlessly ganking neutrals, is NOT respectable by any means.
At least I gave this guy a chance to pay his way out of the situation. And I might add he was home free. He just screwed up with the smack talk during the process.
You killed someone who paid you. And your reasons were pathetic and childish. When you do **** like that, it reflets poorly on everyone in your alliance.
FoE: Not respecting ransoms since 2005.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Stars End
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Posted - 2005.04.10 00:17:00 -
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You killed someone who paid you. And your reasons were pathetic and childish. When you do **** like that, it reflets poorly on everyone in your alliance.
Paying a ransom does NOT give you free license to smacktalk/attack/etc. What it DOES give you, IMO, is a free get of jail ticket to GTFO.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.04.10 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Stars End
Paying a ransom does NOT give you free license to smacktalk/attack/etc. What it DOES give you, IMO, is a free get of jail ticket to GTFO.
And killing someone who has paid you a ransom over an idiotic half-smack comment means that you, your corp, and your alliance simply cant be trusted to recieve a ransom ever again.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Stars End
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Posted - 2005.04.10 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Stars End on 10/04/2005 00:31:40
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And killing someone who has paid you a ransom over an idiotic half-smack comment means that you, your corp, and your alliance simply cant be trusted to recieve a ransom ever again.
That is a completely true statement PROVIDED they engage in any sort of activity that does not include departing immediately. If they are not smart enough to get out BEFORE smack talking. They get what they deserve. If they smack talk after leaving, thats all well and good.
And as far as you trusting us, thats your perogative (sp?). We've already received kudos on how we are operating.
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Size
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Posted - 2005.04.10 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deepeh
I always pod when I get the chance. I don't ransom simply because I can't be arsed to spend any time asking, so unless the target starts screaming like mad in local asking for a ransom they're going to wake up in a station. :)
exactly how i feel
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.04.10 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Deepeh on 10/04/2005 01:21:10
Ransoming and then podding is just dumb. You could do it perfectly well in an NPC corp to save your own corp's name, but even then it would get you a 'reputation', as in somebody who doesn't give a damn and pods you anyway. It's not smart nor cool, it's you cutting away your own income. :)
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Eraza
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Posted - 2005.04.10 02:24:00 -
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for me, it's quite enough to know that i won
i dont see the point in rubbing it in, by actually killing the one who lost..
ah,, well, unless mabey the target has a nice bounty... but then again, people with big bountys on their heads usually have the sence to warp out asap when they go into a the pod... :P
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.04.10 07:54:00 -
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I never pod, I respect human life.
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.04.10 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: PsyBoRG on 10/04/2005 09:53:21
Edited by: PsyBoRG on 10/04/2005 09:52:52
Originally by: Taaser
Give them a chance to pay up, ransom whenever possible, then be man or woman enough to let them go - unless of course they smack talk you
I once ransomed a hauler with 250M Isk worth of assets in tow, he quickly paid me 200M Isk ransom, but then said You happy f*cker!?. Needless to say he lost 450M Isk during this event
damn even 0.5 - 1.0 ore thief's deserves more respect then u no wonder why ppl stopped paying
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.04.11 11:07:00 -
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I always podkill.... because if I attack someone its usually personal. |
Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.04.11 15:35:00 -
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implants sucks
clonejump 4tw!
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Taaser
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Posted - 2005.04.13 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: PsyBoRG
damn even 0.5 - 1.0 ore thief's deserves more respect then u no wonder why ppl stopped paying
No one said anything about people ceasing to pay my ransoms, so get a clue.
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Slarti
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Posted - 2005.04.13 12:35:00 -
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Accrue biomass.....for one day it might be worth something....
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.13 12:45:00 -
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Always pod. Just better, if it cost more for my enemy.
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Justin Cody
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Posted - 2005.04.13 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
I pod every time. They better be jumping before I target that pod or it pops.
Means nothing - they have clones...
Funny thing about people having clones...I've seen poeple get podded and go from several million skill points, back to a basic clone...rofl...the poor souls. That will teach you preparedness eh? Never go out your door without a fresh clone in the oven.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.04.13 14:30:00 -
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I dont have time for ransom, i never pod, i just blow up ships, if u pay me some isk i will never shoot u or ur corp mates, ever, again.
For 5mill [A-NAP] corp made a nap with me, i dont shoot them now.
I am a "civilized pirate"! lol!
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.04.13 18:13:00 -
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pod killing is a waste of time unless the target is stupid enough to blatantly stick around waiting to get reamed. Then you just have got to do him\her a service.
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djkgb
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Posted - 2005.04.18 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: djkgb on 18/04/2005 12:23:44
i pod iv ppl dont pay
r8s in 0.0 150 mil
in 0.4 200mil and they will neve haveproblems with me again
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Handelsmann
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Posted - 2005.04.18 13:53:00 -
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in 0.4 200mil and they will neve haveproblems with me again
...hard to believe anybody would pay you 200 million isk, still not knowing whether he/she will surive. You'll get plenty of new implants for 200M and even if you should still lose a little I would NEVER "donate" it to a trigger happy cowboy who's only profession is to steal other people's cash! Shoot as long as you can, try to escape with your Pod (what usually should be possible) and otherwise die with honour!
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Ank Myrandor
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Posted - 2005.04.18 14:22:00 -
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podkill yes :) ofcourse
only you're sec. status is a problem if you're having a job that's required 1.0 space 
True Amarrians are Dutch !!
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Heifetz
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Posted - 2005.04.18 14:51:00 -
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I got jumped by 3 BS's a few hours ago, I had nothing of real value so they podded me out of spite :)
Perfectly acceptable!
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