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Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
945
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:28:00 -
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Disclaimer I normally live in lowsec as its the best sec.
I went off into nullsec to visit some old friends today and before i went i picked up some stuff from highsec for them.
I went through a highsec connection straight into nullsec and found a dozen bubbles on the gate and then nothing but empty systems.
So i went back into highsec and checked lots of highsec to nullsec connections and found them all bubbled. Once of them even called me a noob for fitting an interdiction Nullifier.
I thought i should convey this information to Nullsec players immediately. You are constantly calling for people to leave highsec and go to nullsec but some of your number are killing anyone who tries to leave highsec.
Can you tell the king of nullsec whoever they are that some of your number do not want people from highsec to leave highsec as they have set death traps at every exit.
(I know they can leave by lowsec but there are gatecamps there as well and even bubbles from low/null
Im sure that now that everyone knows this nullsec will open the way for highsec people to at least see nullsec for more than 10 seconds before they return to the safety of their medical bays.
My thanks and im sure that you are grateful i got this information out to you. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
561
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:30:00 -
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you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...
all they want to do is shoot you. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1164
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:33:00 -
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I think you're missing the entire point of nullsec. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Karrl Tian
Yarrbusters
21
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:40:00 -
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Anchored bubbles in empty systems do not equal death traps---even if they are the laziest thing I've ever seen. At least CCP had enough sense not to allow the anchoring of sentry guns and EWAR batteries on gates. |

Ditra Vorthran
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:40:00 -
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I have to agree. If you want people to come to null sec, you should make it easy for people to get there.
Now, once they're there and all settled in, that's a different story...  "Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |

Romvex
118
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:40:00 -
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clicked thread expecting lolz.. left satisfied Post with your main |

Elliot Vodka
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:42:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote: So i went back into highsec and checked lots of highsec to nullsec connections and found them all bubbled. Once of them even called me a noob for fitting an interdiction Nullifier.
I thought i should convey this information to Nullsec players immediately. You are constantly calling for people to leave highsec and go to nullsec but some of your number are killing anyone who tries to leave highsec.
Can you tell the king of nullsec whoever they are that some of your number do not want people from highsec to leave highsec as they have set death traps at every exit.
You know that they just want more targets right?
Everyone near the instant null sec gates are alwasy camping there because thats the most likely place a noob will try it out. |

qDoctor Strangelove
TaskF0rce Executive Vice Empire
43
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:43:00 -
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Just have your corp titan pilots bridge you into null-sec. You can also just take your carrier, or have someone bum-bridge you in a cloaking ship with a black ops BS. |

Teebling
Flashpoint Industries Ethereal Dawn
21
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:44:00 -
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I'm the king of null sec. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2135
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:46:00 -
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Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2135
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:48:00 -
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also just kill the bubbles if the system is empty, problem solved |

Azami Nevinyrall
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
601
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Posted - 2012.11.05 23:05:00 -
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I was called a noob for fitting stabs on my ship by a gate camp with insta T3's...
I was also called a noob when FCing a fleet of frigs by a larger gang that hot dropped triage archons on us...
So I've learned that if you deny kills, you're a noob... Apperently I'm on twitter now... @AzamiNevinyrall |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2012.11.05 23:18:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote: I thought i should convey this information to Nullsec players immediately. You are constantly calling for people to leave highsec and go to nullsec but some of your number are killing anyone who tries to leave highsec.
I think you read our complaints wrong. We want _our_ people to _return_ to nullsec. Those among us who have 2 brain cells to rub together feel that this could be best done by increasing our industrial infrastructure along with a few ideas that would help provide better income to individual players who are active in nullsec.
The rest of you can stay in highsec for all we care. |

Smiknight
The Plebian Republic
31
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Posted - 2012.11.05 23:32:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...
all they want to do is shoot you.
Pretty much this. Why go to where your prey is when you can trick them into following (or shaming them into) the breadcrumbs to a world of isk fountains and magical bridges of hope and wonder. They don't want us out there, they just need something to shoot at because the majority of their denizens are blue. It is disheartening to see a game once steeped in cerebral thought and innovative thinking become so homogenized by entitlement and malaise; that indidviduals should instill a theme park existence through a lack of desire to overcome any and all obstacles and instead demand things be made easier for them via nerfs. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2136
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Posted - 2012.11.05 23:38:00 -
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nah if we wanted that I'd be arguing for a 'highsec gate malfunction' feature that randomly ejected highsec guys travelling through a gate into a random k-space system and then they'd have to slowboat home
maybe make it mass dependent so that like the biggest ship you can safely move through highsec is a t2 hauler
if I wanted that, that is |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
819
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Posted - 2012.11.06 00:29:00 -
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troll op is troll, but if serious some how there are lots of null entrances from lowsec that aren't bubble camped. |

Savnire Jacitu
VigilanteV
17
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Posted - 2012.11.06 01:12:00 -
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I learned all about the come to null sec scam a long time ago. <corrupt> |

Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
170
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Posted - 2012.11.06 01:16:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:Anchored bubbles in empty systems do not equal death traps---even if they are the laziest thing I've ever seen. At least CCP had enough sense not to allow the anchoring of sentry guns and EWAR batteries on gates.
Oh the fun!!!
"MAN THE GUNS MEN!!!" I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |

adopt
No Ducks Allowed Disaster Strikes
455
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Posted - 2012.11.06 02:30:00 -
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Translation of OP:
pls stop boobling gaets so i can rat in ur spaec m8 Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
FREE XOLVE ~ THE HERO TEST NEEDS |

Karn Dulake
Sad Flutes
951
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Posted - 2012.11.06 02:33:00 -
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I love these responses.
I make my isk in russian space.
Why?
Because one mistake and you are being hotdropped by Super caps.
If you can train in Russian space then all other space is highsec I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
276
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:11:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...
all they want to do is shoot you.
Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots.....
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
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Posted - 2012.11.06 03:15:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Dave stark wrote:you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...
all they want to do is shoot you. Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots.....  I get wealthy on the back of the Guristas Pilots ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.11.06 04:47:00 -
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This is not urgent |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.11.06 04:47:00 -
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Jump into EC- RIGHT NOW it's empty mang! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
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Posted - 2012.11.06 04:54:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Jump into EC- RIGHT NOW it's empty mang! If you jumped you're BARK BARK Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.11.06 04:56:00 -
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I get wealthy on the back of The Mittani, who has graciously arranged for a massive space empire to provide me with reimbursements.
He's a giver, that Mittens. |

Lesile Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:07:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall.
So Outposts, NPC Stations, and POS's provide no backbone to industry? Pretty sure its just people being cheap and lazy.
Cheap, cause why mine when I can buy what I need in High Sec.
Lazy, cause why mine anything other than A,B,C and M for cash
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2136
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:25:00 -
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Lesile Sasen wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall. So Outposts, NPC Stations, and POS's provide no backbone to industry? No.
Quote: Pretty sure its just people being cheap and lazy. npc corp |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:33:00 -
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Lesile Sasen wrote:Lazy, cause why mine anything other than A,B,C and M for cash B and C are pretty bad value in terms of isk/m3. So ha ha.
Also, nullsec doesn't have that much of the lowends anyway, certainly not enough to feed our TITAN BLOB that blots out your structure. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
570
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Posted - 2012.11.06 10:12:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Dave stark wrote:you seem to mistake the "come to nullsec" as an invitation to get rich and have fun...
all they want to do is shoot you. Null-sec is a meta-game, where a few leaders and their friends get fabulously wealthy, on the backs of their pilots..... 
that's funny, when i was in null (and in test) i kept 100% of the minerals i mined, refined, and hauled back to jita. all i did was pay one of their JF pilots a few isk for fuel and they hauled it back to jita for me.
if anything, i was getting rich on their backs. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
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