So Outposts, NPC Stations, and POS's provide no backbone to industry?

why do people talk about the big bad gatecamps stopping them from going to nullsec

i didn't run into any gatecamps or gates when i've moved characters to nullsec because i used a very complex process to bypass gates

step 1: open medical services
step 2: set clone station
step 3: switch to pod
step 4: undock
step 5: self destruct and go make tea

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I went off into nullsec to visit some old friends today and before i went i picked up some stuff from highsec for them.
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that's funny, when i was in null (and in test) i kept 100% of the minerals i mined, refined, and hauled back to jita. all i did was pay one of their JF pilots a few isk for fuel and they hauled it back to jita for me.

if anything, i was getting rich on their backs.

Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall.

why do people talk about the big bad gatecamps stopping them from going to nullsec

i didn't run into any gatecamps or gates when i've moved characters to nullsec because i used a very complex process to bypass gates

step 1: open medical services
step 2: set clone station
step 3: switch to pod
step 4: undock
step 5: self destruct and go make tea

Translation of OP:

pls stop boobling gaets so i can rat in ur spaec m8

hmmmm....

The null sec's can already makes tons of ISK in their home systems with little to worry about... They can fight all they want without concord intruding... They literally own systems in space...

Now they want to have production capabilities of already established NPC factions.... That's fair.... So in the end you want to have all the benefits of living outside the law while having none of the 'drawbacks' that would come with being so far away from civilization...


High sec has lower ISK generation, no safety as most would assume and all the morons space has to offer. Now the benefits we have is a Great industry thanks to the already established super NPC factions and a great market.

There is also the drawback of obeying the rules of the NPC factions while trying to protect ourselves form the lawless that invade high sec often.

Now I don't mind the stupid losing their ISK because they think nothing can touch them but when you have so many benefits that Null sec has, you should really learn to accept the drawbacks you bring upon yourselves. Or you can just cry like High sec players that lose their isk, which I am seeing a lot of lately.

Disclaimer I normally live in lowsec as its the best sec.



I went off into nullsec to visit some old friends today and before i went i picked up some stuff from highsec for them.


I went through a highsec connection straight into nullsec and found a dozen bubbles on the gate and then nothing but empty systems.

So i went back into highsec and checked lots of highsec to nullsec connections and found them all bubbled. Once of them even called me a noob for fitting an interdiction Nullifier.


I thought i should convey this information to Nullsec players immediately. You are constantly calling for people to leave highsec and go to nullsec but some of your number are killing anyone who tries to leave highsec.

Can you tell the king of nullsec whoever they are that some of your number do not want people from highsec to leave highsec as they have set death traps at every exit.


(I know they can leave by lowsec but there are gatecamps there as well and even bubbles from low/null


Im sure that now that everyone knows this nullsec will open the way for highsec people to at least see nullsec for more than 10 seconds before they return to the safety of their medical bays.


My thanks and im sure that you are grateful i got this information out to you.

This must be a troll, because no one can be this dumb for real lol. This post is, however,a great example of the carebear mentality and shows how disconnected from reality and good sense it is. There are some very obvious problems with the way "theY" think, and it's obvious to everyone but them.

Then they wonder why everyone else is on their case...

It's just silly, the whole reason anyone (starting with CCP) would want more people in null sec is more competition/pvp/ships exploding which is good for the economy.

Yet people will use the fact that people already living there are actually , you know, playing the game and trying to control trade/communications routes as some sort of evidence of some kind of double standard (ie "null sec players say they want more people in null sec then deny people access too null sec!).

I've said it before, if a video game player doesn't have enough sack to push through the minor difficulties presented in this video game, that's their fault and their problem, no one elses.

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And for the record, most people I know in null sec don't give 2 damns about what high sec people do, including most Goons I know. Another stupid thing highsec people think is that null sec people grief them in empire because of a lack of null sec targets. This is the highsec person not realizing that other players aren't like them (the high sec player "wants to be left alone to play the way he wants and thus thinks everyone is like that).

People like goons don't attack high sec people because there are no targets in null (plenty of fighting going on in null), they attack high sec people because they are weak and clueless and cry a lot on these very forums , a response which was the WHOLE point (well, that and space money) of the attack to begin with. And on cue, high sec people oblige goons with tears.

Stop being weak and feeble in a video game, stop crying on the forums for mommy(ccp) yto fix it, and watch goons and co leave EVE en mass for greener tear pastures.

-snip- Once of them even called me a noob for fitting an interdiction Nullifier. - snip -

Loving all of this. But please tell me. how am i supposed to run 10/10 plexes in nullsec unless im allowed through the door.

You are not supposed to do 10/10 plexes in null. The Alliance owning that system is supposed to run that content, that is why they have claimed that system in the first place. Is this seriously such a hard concept to grasp? There are two ways through that door: either you become part of the Alliance claiming the space, or you kick the **** out of them with your own organised group.

Loving all of this.

But please tell me. how am i supposed to run 10/10 plexes in nullsec unless im allowed through the door.

But please tell me. how am i supposed to run 10/10 plexes in nullsec unless im allowed through the door.

Loving all of this.

But please tell me. how am i supposed to run 10/10 plexes in nullsec unless im allowed through the door.

You sneak in the back (unguarded entrances) or climb in through a window (wormholes). Fit a cloak to avoid being probed, bring enough ammo for for days of ratting (ammo doesn't take that much space up) go somewhere so remote even the sov owners don't want to be there and lol at the people who had to grind all those structures so you could make money without having to join their alliance.

I love these responses.


I make my isk in russian space.

Why?

Because one mistake and you are being hotdropped by Super caps.



If you can train in Russian space then all other space is highsec

Nullsec is incapable of developing a secondary manufacturing economy due to both lack of capacity and incentive for nullsec industry, which also prevents a tertiary retail economy from developing. This means that 0.0 is locked in a primary resource extraction economy, and trespassing on someone's resource extraction point in 0.0 is tantamount to sneaking into someone's gold mine in a third world nation and expecting the locals to welcome your 'contribution to the gold economy' instead of stringing you up on the gate by your own intestines as a warning to others. Whereas participating in a developed economy is no more hostile then getting a passport and visiting a local shopping mall.

I get wealthy on the back of the Guristas Pilots !

This actually made me laugh. xXShadow of DEATHXx one time dropped a Titan on me when I was exploring their backyard in a Gallente Shuttle. This was back when it was still yellow.

Im in Stain at the moment and i dont think that a single build slot in the entire region is being used

You sneak in the back (unguarded entrances) or climb in through a window (wormholes). Fit a cloak to avoid being probed, bring enough ammo for for days of ratting (ammo doesn't take that much space up) go somewhere so remote even the sov owners don't want to be there and lol at the people who had to grind all those structures so you could make money without having to join their alliance.