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Ghazu
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:23:00 -
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Talus Veran wrote:Ghazu wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I'd like them to make all that crap an optional download so I don't have the worthless bloatware crapping up my PC. Yeah and get rid of that enter the cq button, it's an eyesore. First you must give us gameplay reasons to load the goddamn thing. That's the point of talking about it. So CCP can see we are interested in having it Meaningful. What do you consider meaningful WiS content?
Dev's own words "have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability. There have to be ways to get better at it, ways to profit from it but also ways to take risks and lose." http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3430 meaning not a bunch of dudes emoting each other dressing up in nex items, like some dogshit zynga game, or have a redundant feature like player shops when people can just alt-r The recent dev posts seem to be in the correct direction. http://www.minerbumping.com/ |

Talus Veran
Valis Inc
24
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:32:00 -
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Dev's own words "have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability. There have to be ways to get better at it, ways to profit from it but also ways to take risks and lose." http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3430 meaning not a bunch of dudes emoting each other dressing up in nex items, like some dogshit zynga game, or have a redundant feature like player shops when people can just alt-r The recent dev posts seem to be in the correct direction. [/quote]
I can apreciate that, and this Forum Post Team Avatar and the future of our prototype shows a good picture that they are taking their time with it.
I think the OP, is just a bit Space crazy wanting to walk the halls a bit.
As long as the players are given a glimps of what is to come later, we will accept little steps, liek opening the door and going to Talk in local chat while standing in a space bar. (Insert Joke) "Zee Goggles, Zey Do Nothing!"
Message me on Twitter-á-á @talus_veran I follow -á #eveonline-á &-á #tweetfleet |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
599
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Posted - 2012.11.07 12:01:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote: less than 1% of the active population has switched on.
Let's be frank here, you pulled that stat straight out of your ass.
There was a poll on the forums quite recently that showed that greater than half have it turned on and that half of the people who dont have it turned on would want it on if it wasn't such a resource hog. That may just be a small sample size (ie, the forumk users), but it seems to roughly represent the opinions of people I talk to in game.
The "WiS is useless" crowd gets smaller and less vocal every passing day. Your the minority my friend.
Talus Veran wrote: I think the OP, is just a bit Space crazy wanting to walk the halls a bit.
I get cabin fever. After a roam and a good couple of kills, I want to do something relaxing. Usually I just hang around and chat on TS3 with the fleet mates that haven't departed yet. It would be so much nicer if we could all dock up and chat in the same virtual space. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
45
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Posted - 2012.11.07 13:48:00 -
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It sure will have walking in the closet content. You'll be able to do really neat new things like board a new destroyer from there and get into space, board a newly redesigned frigate or cruiser and go out in space or maybe board a bait ship and go get suspect flagged....in space. |

HalfArse
Dark Matter Avionics
12
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Posted - 2012.11.07 13:59:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:
Oh yes, it was so promising that it took them 5 years to give us one room with a graphics system so intense that top-end computers would overheat after 20 minutes.
since you mention overheating im assuming that you either built your computer yourself and did a terrible job of it (but spent upwards of -ú1000 so think that makes it good), or you have a rig so old and encrusted in crap that you should be ashamed.
I have a computer built on a budget and is now a couple of years out of date and it handles two instances of captains quarters on two separate screens absolutely fine, along with a bunch of other programs in the background.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
59
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Posted - 2012.11.07 14:07:00 -
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If you are talking about small amount of people actually going into CQ, take into consideration, that there is no reward, nor any risk in doing so. What will you do? Stare in the floor all time? Push that door button to the tact of ? Make another one "forever alone" photoshop collage?
Architecture is there, content is not. Red Maiden: People actually play with WiS off? Why? It's really well done, and adds an excellent layer of immersion in the game. Plus, my character's ass is out of this world and I like looking at it. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2883
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Posted - 2012.11.07 15:00:00 -
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If you want 'meaningful' WiS just play Blacklight Retribution. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
182
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Posted - 2012.11.07 16:04:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:If you want 'meaningful' WiS just play Blacklight Retribution.
And a other hater. Quit it boy wis is comming if you dont like it there is always a option to x3. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
731
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:58:00 -
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HalfArse wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
Oh yes, it was so promising that it took them 5 years to give us one room with a graphics system so intense that top-end computers would overheat after 20 minutes.
since you mention overheating im assuming that you either built your computer yourself and did a terrible job of it (but spent upwards of -ú1000 so think that makes it good), or you have a rig so old and encrusted in crap that you should be ashamed. I have a computer built on a budget and is now a couple of years out of date and it handles two instances of captains quarters on two separate screens absolutely fine, along with a bunch of other programs in the background.
Right don,t forget the ones who never opens the case and clean out the dust every now and then.
ands this is turning into we demand gameplay in Ambulation again,even if CCP never talked about it before Incarna other then some board game in a bar. Don,t get me wrong ,if added great ,but if they stick to the original plan from before Incarna ,it is just as great.
edit: and another one who thinks the Carbon engine exist for 5 years nothing to see here ,move on
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Vex Killswitch
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:08:00 -
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For the last two years, i've been hoping they introduce a casino!
srs, this games all about isk and yet theres no casino! |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2857

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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:45:00 -
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Thread cleaned of some distasteful off topic remarks. Please remember to post within the rules, thank you - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
416
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:09:00 -
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I want windows that look outside so I can see whio is camping me into station, I want black markets in filthy corners of the stations, I want space ponies to ride on through the halls of stations (except minmatar stations, which would give my pony black lung) and i also want fan picture posters of my favorite ISDs and GMs to hang on my CQ walls. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2883
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:27:00 -
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Vex Killswitch wrote:For the last two years, i've been hoping they introduce a casino!
srs, this games all about isk and yet theres no casino!
Technically there is. Gambling at least, and it's player made content!
EOH http://www.eohpoker.com/ Somer Blink http://cogdev.net/blink/ (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Devon Krah'tor
Magis.Erudire.Ratus.Knoen
13
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:27:00 -
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I want sniper rifles so I can 180 no scope noobs
Greater.Insight.Skill.Knowledge |

Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
97
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:29:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Lady Spank wrote:If you want 'meaningful' WiS just play Blacklight Retribution. And a other hater. Quit it boy wis is comming if you dont like it there is always a option to x3.
I can understand why you'd want more avatar-to-avatar player interaction, typed communication clearly isn't your thing.  |

Tallian Saotome
Papercut Syndicate
852
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:32:00 -
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HalfArse wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
Oh yes, it was so promising that it took them 5 years to give us one room with a graphics system so intense that top-end computers would overheat after 20 minutes.
since you mention overheating im assuming that you either built your computer yourself and did a terrible job of it (but spent upwards of -ú1000 so think that makes it good), or you have a rig so old and encrusted in crap that you should be ashamed. I have a computer built on a budget and is now a couple of years out of date and it handles two instances of captains quarters on two separate screens absolutely fine, along with a bunch of other programs in the background. When WIS first launched, it was literally causing the nVidia ti560, that CCP was pushing as the card to get when WIS came out, to catch fire.
It was not the result of bad computers, but of bad code. Fortunately, that code has been fixed, but as a result of that fiasco, many of us will not even look at captains quarters.
Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2884
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Posted - 2012.11.07 20:34:00 -
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More like Crapstains worthless amirite? (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
731
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Posted - 2012.11.07 20:39:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:HalfArse wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
Oh yes, it was so promising that it took them 5 years to give us one room with a graphics system so intense that top-end computers would overheat after 20 minutes.
since you mention overheating im assuming that you either built your computer yourself and did a terrible job of it (but spent upwards of -ú1000 so think that makes it good), or you have a rig so old and encrusted in crap that you should be ashamed. I have a computer built on a budget and is now a couple of years out of date and it handles two instances of captains quarters on two separate screens absolutely fine, along with a bunch of other programs in the background. When WIS first launched, it was literally causing the nVidia ti560, that CCP was pushing as the card to get when WIS came out, to catch fire. It was not the result of bad computers, but of bad code. Fortunately, that code has been fixed, but as a result of that fiasco, many of us will not even look at captains quarters.
we are not talking about captains quarters here nothing to see here ,move on
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Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
3
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Posted - 2012.11.07 21:15:00 -
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I'd like WiS to be developed more. No rush though. Mainly for RP. |

Ra'Shyne Viper
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.07 21:49:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Vex Killswitch wrote:For the last two years, i've been hoping they introduce a casino!
srs, this games all about isk and yet theres no casino! Technically there is. Gambling at least, and it's player made content! EOH http://www.eohpoker.com/Somer Blink http://cogdev.net/blink/
True, but lets honest
-its not convenient(brb waiting 20mins-1hr for isk transfer.) -its not pleaseing graphic wise.(i feel like im on some cheap poker site.) -One game....(Hold em) wheres black jack, rollette, etc. -Hard to find a game with players.
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
183
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Posted - 2012.11.08 01:44:00 -
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Bigpimping wrote:Johan Civire wrote:Lady Spank wrote:If you want 'meaningful' WiS just play Blacklight Retribution. And a other hater. Quit it boy wis is comming if you dont like it there is always a option to x3. I can understand why you'd want more avatar-to-avatar player interaction, typed communication clearly isn't your thing. 
So you use a alt to commend big boy not every one is english you racist. Atleast i have balls to post with my char. Now **** off troll. end of discusion |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
972
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:11:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: less than 1% of the active population has switched on. Let's be frank here, you pulled that stat straight out of your ass. There was a poll on the forums quite recently that showed that greater than half have it turned on and that half of the people who dont have it turned on would want it on if it wasn't such a resource hog.
The poll only accounts for the people that actually participated in it. Now when you take in to consideration that most EVE players either don't know about the forums or couldn't be bothered reading them, then take in to account the people that don't actually care about WiS, you end up with up with my fairly accurate number above.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
972
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:13:00 -
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HalfArse wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
Oh yes, it was so promising that it took them 5 years to give us one room with a graphics system so intense that top-end computers would overheat after 20 minutes.
since you mention overheating im assuming that you either built your computer yourself and did a terrible job of it (but spent upwards of -ú1000 so think that makes it good), or you have a rig so old and encrusted in crap that you should be ashamed. I have a computer built on a budget and is now a couple of years out of date and it handles two instances of captains quarters on two separate screens absolutely fine, along with a bunch of other programs in the background.
You must not have tried out CQ when it was first brought out. The overheating issue is fixed, but the point still stands.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
295
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:17:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Arduemont wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: less than 1% of the active population has switched on. Let's be frank here, you pulled that stat straight out of your ass. There was a poll on the forums quite recently that showed that greater than half have it turned on and that half of the people who dont have it turned on would want it on if it wasn't such a resource hog. The poll only accounts for the people that actually participated in it. Now when you take in to consideration that most EVE players either don't know about the forums or couldn't be bothered reading them, then take in to account the people that don't actually care about WiS, you end up with up with my fairly accurate number above. Actually, the diff between EvE players and Forum readers is a complete unknown for most people not working for CCP (or being Chribba).
But a qualified guess is that we (as forum visitors) are a very vocal minority ;) CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
84
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:19:00 -
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Arsedestroyer wrote:Just as Dust is the Teamfortress buy to win Counterstrike game in a Sony partnership, WiS should be a separate game - maybe team up with EA and make a Sims 3 Eve Addon. I can't even begin to tell you what's wrong with that sentence. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
772
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:23:00 -
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No there wont, thank god... |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
612
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Posted - 2012.11.08 12:06:00 -
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Hahah,
There are so many people in here saying "Captains Quarters has not content, therefore, obviously, we shouldn't develop any content for it." Because that makes perfect sense.
As for the chap talking about the poll. Your saying "Your poll is not accurate (I already said that), therefore I am right" Without providing any evidence for your own argument. That's like me saying there is an invisible giant unicorn orbiting the moon, you can't prove me wrong, therefore it exists. Stop trying to be smart, you obviously have no idea how to go about it.
Enough hate though. Lets face it, not only would WiS content be good for the current players, but it will be good for CCP's wallet. A lot of people are put off of Eve because of the lack of an Avatar. You can say "We don't want those players anyway", but CCP does, and all you so called PvP elitists with lower ISK efficiencies than me can claim you don't want the weak in Eve. But without weak PvPers who are YOU going to kill huh? "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5492
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Posted - 2012.11.08 13:17:00 -
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>implying that /dance and /salute constitute "content" ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2887
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:06:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Hahah, There are so many people in here saying "Captains Quarters has no content, therefore, obviously, we shouldn't develop any content for it." Because that makes perfect sense. As for the chap talking about the poll. Your saying "Your poll is not accurate (I already said that), therefore I am right" Without providing any evidence for your own argument. That's like me saying there is an invisible giant unicorn orbiting the moon, you can't prove me wrong, therefore it exists. Stop trying to be smart, you obviously have no idea how to go about it. Enough hate though. Lets face it, not only would WiS content be good for the current players, but it will be good for CCP's wallet. A lot of people are put off of Eve because of the lack of an Avatar. You can say "We don't want those players anyway", but CCP does, and all you so called PvP elitists with lower ISK efficiencies than me can claim you don't want the weak in Eve. But without weak PvPers who are YOU going to kill huh? Edit: Found this, and thought it was funny
You have to look at it in context of it's effect on the game. CCP have talked about this feature for years. YEARS. Once it was rolled out it was laughably lacking in any content whatsoever. Essentially they made a giant song and dance about a single room you could walk around in, or sit down and watch TV in. Not only was it blatantly obvious how little functionality there was to this but it was horribly coded and didn't run well at all on most peoples PC's. To make matters worse they tried to force people into accepting this as the new docking screen and removed the ship hanger while not changing the functionality of being in a ship or pod (while you are in neither since you are walking around your quarters). To date this is still the same way. Lets not even start on the argument that it was forced in in a poor state just so they could justify the AURUM store.
Most importantly, regardless of how shoddy this implementation was, the game at the time was stagnant and in dire need of improvements to various mechanics. CCP as much as stated that they were having trouble assigning resources at the time and the public backlash to this and their general arrogance and complacency at the time finally made them pull their fingers out of their asses and actually do something to improve the area of the game that matters; spaceships.
While some people care about WiS, the general lack of interest for it stems from the effect it has had on the game so far. Ultimately it has offered nothing and done so to the detriment of the rest of the game. Unless they can offer something compelling and worthwhile it is better for them to just forget about the whole thing. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Ryakel
Zero Energy System Testing Corp Industrial Technonauts
3
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Posted - 2012.11.08 18:29:00 -
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Meaningful WiS can't really happen without an overhaul of station mechanics.
Can someone explain how Jita prime is able to handle so many capsuleer visitors and permanent inhabitants?
Stations should institute meaningful ways to respond to the demands of players.
For example, Villore Station X, has seen an influx of Gallente FW corps and solo pilots setting up their PVE operations and HQ. Traffic patterns have shown multiple bursts of large ships undocking causing collisions with smaller ships and increasing the time it takes for station users to initiate a warp in 20% of cases.
To solve this, the station could simply introduce a docking charge(either flat, or based on size of ship)
Personally, I would much prefer to see obtaining docking rights at a station become more interactive. Imagine entering the system, and selecting your target station and bringing up a dialog box to request docking permission at a high traffic station. You would see how many ships are in queue and be given an ETA. You could then see the effect of your standing with the station on your position in the queue. If you aren't given immediate docking permission, you would be able to use sliders to offer ISK for preferred treatment or redeem loyalty points to bypass the queue.
Naturally, this would mean that people might find themselves less likely to use a main trade hub and introduce new economic forces to spread out the market and help create new hubs.
With trade being more spread out I could see things in stations getting more interesting. Major hubs, like Jita would likely develop more of a Wall St vibe and if the costs doing business in a densely populated station scaled properly it would definitely change the vibe.
As it stands, Jita does't make any sense, help make it the Gentleman's club that it deserves to be. |
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