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Draconian	Posted - 2005.04.11 23:40:00 - [31] FOE invades twice into h-pa29 on the 8th for me(9th 0200 eve time) kills a frig with there gank squad and then gets sent running south with less ships then they starteed with me i was sadly in warp in 9-2 the worse system in eve when the fighting started and was 30secs late we r told by the new witch or the north aka folye that there rogue who r mad at the pa for not siding with foe asgainst foe/exo...blah blah excuses...pa really lost nothing so we talk then they invade again at 0500 killling a evol raven....i was asleep now i am personally ****ed but i am bussy with evol in pa space 9th late was the start of the war they build a fleet in p3en we think on just another foe attack on g/exo then we get intel foe r going to invading pa(i had intel they were planning to do it this weekend afew day ago) at the time we r fighting evol in 6nj then evol logs so we start forming a blob we were going on intel blob of foe gets to d7- and we get issued a demand to side with foe etc or foe will attack pawe had 10mins to decide r blob gets bigger and bigger theres looks smaller and smaller and then starts the foe back peddling....as in backing down when we refused there demands can we all say WW2 cept reversed b/c the germans our on the our side and werenot issueing a demand etc but u get the idea
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.11 23:52:00 - [32] Originally by: christoforos Max, you got the sequence of events a little wrong. Even if the hauler in Pure Blind was a mistake, a FoE fleet has attacked venal, Friday to Saturday night. 2005.04.09 02:28:00 Victim: fugazii Corporation: Forsaken Empire Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: H-PA29 System Security Level: 0.0 Ballistic Void has declared the ultimatum on us on Saturday afternoon. We teamed up with G and IRON in Fade after that and after talks between PA and FoE leaderships, that showed that there was little room for negotiation, since you wanted to force us to choose who our friends are, under the threat of war and you even threatened us to not pass through UMI-KK. Closing UMI-KK is a reason for war, by itself. dont bring killmails into this, it would be much more embarassing for your side. umi-kk is foe space plain and simple. not respecting our space is completely unacceptable, theres other ways to get to empire from your space but u CHOSE to violate our agreement and thus actions were taken. you brought it upon yourself.
Raven DeBlade	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:05:00 - [33] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: christoforos Max, you got the sequence of events a little wrong. Even if the hauler in Pure Blind was a mistake, a FoE fleet has attacked venal, Friday to Saturday night. 2005.04.09 02:28:00 Victim: fugazii Corporation: Forsaken Empire Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: H-PA29 System Security Level: 0.0 Ballistic Void has declared the ultimatum on us on Saturday afternoon. We teamed up with G and IRON in Fade after that and after talks between PA and FoE leaderships, that showed that there was little room for negotiation, since you wanted to force us to choose who our friends are, under the threat of war and you even threatened us to not pass through UMI-KK. Closing UMI-KK is a reason for war, by itself. dont bring killmails into this, it would be much more embarassing for your side. umi-kk is foe space plain and simple. not respecting our space is completely unacceptable, theres other ways to get to empire from your space but u CHOSE to violate our agreement and thus actions were taken. you brought it upon yourself. yeah right.... pa.stylii.com/index.asp "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" "Any statements made above this line are my persona"
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Draconian FOE invades twice into h-pa29 on the 8th for me(9th 0200 eve time) kills a frig with there gank squad and then gets sent running south with less ships then they starteed with me i was sadly in warp in 9-2 the worse system in eve when the fighting started and was 30secs late we r told by the new witch or the north aka folye that there rogue who r mad at the pa for not siding with foe asgainst foe/exo...blah blah excuses...pa really lost nothing so we talk then they invade again at 0500 killling a evol raven....i was asleep now i am personally **ed but i am bussy with evol in pa space 9th late was the start of the war they build a fleet in p3en we think on just another foe attack on g/exo then we get intel foe r going to invading pa(i had intel they were planning to do it this weekend afew day ago) at the time we r fighting evol in 6nj then evol logs so we start forming a blob we were going on intel blob of foe gets to d7- and we get issued a demand to side with foe etc or foe will attack pawe had 10mins to decide r blob gets bigger and bigger theres looks smaller and smaller and then starts the foe back peddling....as in backing down when we refused there demands can we all say WW2 cept reversed b/c the germans our on the our side and werenot issueing a demand etc but u get the idea You call me ôwitchö like itÆs a bad thing? Its not; and thank you for the compliment. Name calling is as lame as chat log posting. You can spam your spew, and live in your democratic warp bubble until your ship explodes. The fact of the matter is, your members wrenched at the fact that they couldnÆt mold us into being the allies you wanted 7 jumps out. Your alliance is so stuck in this ôAnti BOBö mode that you donÆt even know what is going on around you. HELLO !! Is there an entity called ôBOBö existing anymore ? Another warp bubble you are in. Most alliance would have declared war after the first act of fraternizing with the enemy in their space. I was there for that first encounter 6 weeks ago in D7-ZAC and I ordered that pilot shot down- and he was. He did not belong in our space when a battle was about to engage. We have not back peddled on anything. The conversation was left unsettled, the fleet was ordered towards the G blob, and PA made their decision to meet up with them and help G. Not a problem, At that point, PA was officially placed at war with FOE. I never said I had rouge pilots mad at PA, I think I said ômy guys are *edö they were/are. We do not show info on our targets, our policy works as such, ôif is isnÆt blue, kill itöPA use to tell us a corp was a part of PA after we blew up their ship passing through P3E aimlessly. So yes because of their lack of keeping me up to date, a lot of their new members died passing through vale and tribute. Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? ATUK NAP4TW Now I will go ônapö with C4W3 where there is good loving now you get the idea* Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Eversor	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:24:00 - [35] Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't. I still love you Eversor Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Eversor	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:35:00 - [37] Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:34:47 Originally by: Foyle Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't. I still love you Eversor Methinks I am going to be in trouble at the next PA council meeting.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:42:00 - [38] Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:34:47 Originally by: Foyle Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't. I still love you Eversor Methinks I am going to be in trouble at the next PA council meeting. Council meeting's suxsor. This year, I will be at the beach Saturday afternoons getting a tan, not sitting in a council meeting. I learned the hard way, its a game, play it don't try and recreate it. Still loving Eversor when C4W3 isn't looking Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Draconian	Posted - 2005.04.12 01:28:00 - [39] folye sry to say but u guys been claiming standing screws up on old pa corps for months and i had the directors of those foe who r my friends check when standing were changed omfg to my supprise they the corp at +10 and shot not really resent acts occured like this outside foe space in pureblind and empire etc dont give me oh they were new corp line i got ennuff friends in foe to understand qwhat was going on
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 01:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Draconian folye sry to say but u guys been claiming standing screws up on old pa corps for months and i had the directors of those foe who r my friends check when standing were changed omfg to my supprise they the corp at +10 and shot not really resent acts occured like this outside foe space in pureblind and empire etc dont give me oh they were new corp line i got ennuff friends in foe to understand qwhat was going on Well you got what you wanted, you have been one of the pain in the asses we have been dealing with for a while now. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka

Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.12 01:40:00 - [41] It's so nice to sit back and relax to observe all the vitriolic politics in the north without being involved this time around. I hope you have a nice war and please keep the forum action up it's entertaining lots of us Eve Blacklight Style
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.12 04:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Blacklight It's so nice to sit back and relax to observe all the vitriolic politics in the north without being involved this time around. I hope you have a nice war and please keep the forum action up it's entertaining lots of us have u noticed the forums hav been a bit lacking lately? least i hav.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.12 05:43:00 - [43] This bickering is pointless. Both parties have friends on the other side and both groups have already said they arent out to destroy the other party. Let everyone not turn this into the GNW. On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Even EVOL have stopped flaming the PA. Lol even JF are siding with PA now. Talk about being stuck in the past. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.12 05:58:00 - [44] Originally by: Darken Two On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Even EVOL have stopped flaming the PA. Lol even JF are siding with PA now. Talk about being stuck in the past. Erm where is the bitterness posted by BNC? Show me one instance of me flaming the PA since the end of the GNW, if you can? All I said was that it was nice to not be involved in the vitriol for a change i.e. fun to observe the political shennanigans and flaming without being associated in any way. BNC never really took part in the old flame wars with/about the PA so please don't insinuate we are now. Our corp spent a long long time up north and so will always maintain an interest, just as you apparently do. I can absolutely assure you there is no bitterness between BNC and any of the northern corps, many of whom I personally hold in high regard (VNTR, Blades, FE etc.). I've had a personal interest in what FE are upto since the RSA war over a year ago because they are such fun to fight. As far as our attitude to PA is concerned we're ambivalent, many of the old protagonists are long gone, including ourselves. For a snapshot of how we feel towards some of those old protagonists you'd do well to observe the occasional banter that goes on between BNC and KIA or the casual friendship some BNC have always had with NSN, it's all very good natured. Stuck in the past neither I nor any of my guys/gals are, we've moved onto new challenges now and are happily playing our way through them. What happened in the GNW is merely player driven content resigned to the history books and a damn fine tale it makes. So Darken, you may want to reconsider your perceptions regarding BNC's and my own personal commentary in threads like this becase you are way way off the mark. I'll butt out of Cochise's thread now and just observe interestedly from the sidelines. Eve Blacklight Style
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.12 06:27:00 - [45] Edited by: Darken Two on 12/04/2005 06:38:42 Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while What exactly does this mean then?? From what I can see, since you thought PA was in the wrong last time, you think the same this time and would like to come and fight them again for the same reasons. So yea I stand by what I said. Unless you wanna tell me what I understodd wrong in the quoted statement. As for who you talk to, I dont really care. pS. This isnt said enough but Cochise is a gereat leader. He cant be bullied and he's a Jedi Master and cutting through bullsh1t. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.12 06:35:00 - [46] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while What exactly does this mean then?? From what I can see, since you thought PA was in the wrong last time, you think the same this time and would like to come and fight them again for the same reasons. So yea I stand by what I said. Unless you wanna tell me what I understodd wrong in the quoted statement. As for who you talk to, I dont really care. I was referring to the north about to explode into war again, we had far more involvement up north than just the war against the PA and I wasn't merely referring to them. So yes you understood wrong. Eve Blacklight Style
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.12 07:12:00 - [47] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while What exactly does this mean then?? From what I can see, since you thought PA was in the wrong last time, you think the same this time and would like to come and fight them again for the same reasons. So yea I stand by what I said. Unless you wanna tell me what I understodd wrong in the quoted statement. As for who you talk to, I dont really care. I was referring to the north about to explode into war again, we had far more involvement up north than just the war against the PA and I wasn't merely referring to them. So yes you understood wrong. Seriously weak argument there but for the sake of keeping this thread clean, I will let it go at that. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
WildCard	Posted - 2005.04.12 08:37:00 - [48] From the [G] view: [G] has had a NAP with PA also with FoE. Celtic Industries Members decided that is is funny to gank several [G] members in [G] Space. And it is realy pretty annoying if you got killed by "Blue"-people. [G] Diplomats talked to them, and Celtic Industries confirmed that is was a mistake, and standings are now corrected + 5.1 Ten Minutes later.... next ganking from Celtic Industries. Sidenote: The pilot which confirmed the NAP, was the leader of the ganking-squard. Form this moment it was clear for [G] what is to do. And now, it is so as it is. Who cares. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Rehen	Posted - 2005.04.12 20:06:00 - [49] you have to wait 10 min for teh celtic admins to get round to aplying standings, some days it can even be as long as 30 min. Sorry for any problems that have been cause by are shortage of admin staff. rehen
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2005.04.12 20:51:00 - [50] Quote: On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Im not bitter at all. I dont hate anyone in this game, as its just a game, I was merely playin the role of the character (this being an IC forum 'n all). RKK were betrayed by their former allies, if that happened to you in real life, wouldnt you be bitter at that person(s)? Out of character Im glad the war happened, it was great fun and a huge learning experience thats benefited me and the corp to the fullest.

Nagilam	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:07:00 - [51] All i will say is have fun and may the best win. Celestial Apocalypse vs FOE PA/G Alliance vs FOE Nice mixing with you guys. See you out there
Iyam Urmastr	Posted - 2005.04.13 04:37:00 - [52] I actually like most of the Foe guys, but we can only take so much bus (and I don't mean battleship). We had a decent arrangement with right of passage, non aggression, hunting, etc. What really started our worsened relationship from a PA point of view was caused by the following: A pos that was put up in our space. Foyle agreed to have it taken down, but five weeks later it was still up even after numerous requests to have it taken down. It wasn't even kept with a low profile. Anyone who looked at the map could see it as an FoE claimed system. Talk about total disrespect. The repeated attacks on PA members in FoE space while we has a right of passage agreement and outside FoE space right until the war started. It wasn't all of Foe, but a very limited number of FoE corps. CORP1 had to be the worst. Either those guys couldn't get their standings straight or the just enjoyed shooting anything in sight. The closing off of FoE space for travel, which was prompted by the arrival of ATUK. Hey, choose your friends how you like. I'm just saying that it raised a few eyebrows. The attack of PA members in PA space. I warped to a gate in H-PA and there sit a bunch of FoE who decide to open fire on me. I was a bit surprised at that. In the end, all they accomplished was them losing some frigs, pods, and an Apoc. Last but not least, the demand. What a joke. Think about what your response would be if someone gave you an ultimatum. So, lock and load. See ya on the battlefield.
Iyam Urmastr	Posted - 2005.04.13 04:38:00 - [53] oops.. I meant bs, not bus. Dang spellcheck.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.13 05:52:00 - [54] Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 05:59:44 Quote: A pos that was put up in our space. Foyle agreed to have it taken down, but five weeks later it was still up even after numerous requests to have it taken down. It wasn't even kept with a low profile. Anyone who looked at the map could see it as an FoE claimed system. Talk about total disrespect. The POS was put up by the corp prior to them joining FOE, when I was made aware of it, I did tell them to get it out. The corp then spoke to RavenDeblade and he did not push the issue and said it could stay up for now When Eversor mentioned it to me, I told him that Raven and the corp were working it out. When Cochise said something to me about it... I wondered how often leadership spoke to each other. YOUR NAVY LET THEM KEEP IT UP, NOT ME!! Quote: * The repeated attacks on PA members in FoE space while we has a right of passage agreement and outside FoE space right until the war started. It wasn't all of Foe, but a very limited number of FoE corps. CORP1 had to be the worst. Either those guys couldn't get their standings straight or the just enjoyed shooting anything in sight. Well, lets not recruit a corp into PA,.....then say, yea, your corp is PA now, you can jump through tribute on the NAP, you wont die. There was one occasion the corp joined PA the same day as ôfriendly fireö and YES, they enjoy shooting everything in sight. Quote: * The closing off of FoE space for travel, which was prompted by the arrival of ATUK. Hey, choose your friends how you like. I'm just saying that it raised a few eyebrows. Closing FOE space was for multiple reasons, all of which was brought on by PA, and war conflicts. As for your raised eyebrows, that is due to your warp bubble you have your head in about "BOB" Quote: * The attack of PA members in PA space. I warped to a gate in H-PA and there sit a bunch of FoE who decide to open fire on me. I was a bit surprised at that. In the end, all they accomplished was them losing some frigs, pods, and an Apoc. Finally something factual. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:51:00 - [55] Originally by: Rodney Munch Quote: On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Im not bitter at all. I dont hate anyone in this game, as its just a game, I was merely playin the role of the character (this being an IC forum 'n all). RKK were betrayed by their former allies, if that happened to you in real life, wouldnt you be bitter at that person(s)? Out of character Im glad the war happened, it was great fun and a huge learning experience thats benefited me and the corp to the fullest. Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Ly'sol	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:34:00 - [56] I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:39:00 - [57] Originally by: Ly'sol I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> What did you think, they would all wear pink skirts and pick flowers or sumin?? They are all friendly and havin fun shooting at each other, thats why they pay good money to play this game. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Darken Two Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) shh fanboi, you are ruining a good thread. Go make a omg i hate rkk thread on our forums and keep it off eve-o. cheers, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:44:00 - [59] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Darken Two Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) shh fanboi, you are ruining a good thread. Go make a omg i hate rkk thread on our forums and keep it off eve-o. cheers, dbp Well I dont DBp I only get ****ed wheneevr I see Sun Ra and his stupid "I HATE PA" posts. If I did hate RKK I would be spamming all your threads with irrelevant nonsense dont ya think. And when was thge last time you saw me dissing RKK? Even here all I said is that some people have trouble lettin go. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Ly'sol	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:46:00 - [60] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Ly'sol I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> What did you think, they would all wear pink skirts and pick flowers or sumin?? They are all friendly and havin fun shooting at each other, thats why they pay good money to play this game. Could have left the whole pink skirts and things out...cus it made your statment a little freaky. Anyways, in response...I thank you to point out the fact that this is a game to me. The observations of the general attitude of the threads involeing this says a different story. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums



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