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Cochise	Posted - 2005.04.11 13:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Cochise on 11/04/2005 13:53:28 The PA Point of view: We have a NAP with FOE, G-Alliance and IMP. Each of these alliances have been allies to the PA. All of them have former PA Member corps in their ranks. All of them have helped the PA at some time in the past. We are grateful to all of them for this. We consider many of the membership in their given alliances our friends. FE was a big help to us in the past, They decided to form FOE with some old friends from the former CA. Because FE was at plus 10 to PA and helped in the GNW we decided with little banter to accept a NAP with the new FOE. Over the last couple months FOE has ganked a huge number of PA ships in FOE space. Because of the friendship we felt with a lot of them, we chose to overlooked this. Then G attacks FOE. The PA Leadership decides to stay out of what would be a messy scenario and we told both G and FOE this. We made it clear to G that they were not to use PA space to attack FOE. They agreed and honored this request. FOE then tells us to not fly in FOE space. We agree and honored this to the tune of about 99%. I admit we have a few rogues that just donÆt listen but hey thatÆs life. FOE also had their rogues and they flew in PA space. Big deal right. Then FOE tells us PA is now KOS in FOE space. I told Foyle that if they see a PA in FOE space to shoot him down. She agreed and replied the same. Next Corp 1 shoots down a PA and Pod in Pure Blind. (Not FOE space.) Then Friday FOE attack HPA 2 times in the same night. Then Saturday a FOE member gives us an ultimatum. I quote: Balistic Void > hi Raven DeBlade > hi Balistic Void > are you willing to negotiate with me? Raven DeBlade > negotiate? Balistic Void > i represent FoE with our leaders backing Balistic Void > we demand that you withdraw support from our enemy G alliance Balistic Void > what do you say? Balistic Void > we were your allies first Raven DeBlade > we arent supporting them Raven DeBlade > ill make a chan and invite cochise Balistic Void > u must break your nap and ally with us Balistic Void > no other ppl Balistic Void > you now have 10 minutes Balistic Void > we aren't in the mood to chat right now Balistic Void > but im giving you one last chance Then we are later told that we cant fly through UMI-KK so as per FOE we cant go to EMPIRE at all. G-Alliance asked us to help them and to be honest since FOE decided to demand we take a side we did. We chose G-Alliance and thatÆs all there is to it. FOE in their own way declared war against PA. I guess the reason is that I and the PA refuse to have anyone dictate to us who we call friends and who we call enemies. It is also the general consensus of the PA that friends or allies or those you NAP with donÆt shoot at you. To our old friends in FOE we tried to keep this sane but I doubt you would accept any demands from us if we were to be so lame as to try and tell you what to do, so there you go.
Amos Sommers	Posted - 2005.04.11 13:57:00 - [2] Please... pwn FoE I've been waiting for them to make a dumb move like that for a while now Member of The Predators Corporation
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.11 14:04:00 - [3] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 11/04/2005 14:05:36 no dumb move im afraid. i see your point of veiw cochise. but look at it from ours. Hostiles growing in the north towards us, we witness a g force attack us and then move into venal to escape us. we cant give chase. they did that many times. and PA didnt do anything. PA still had a large number of people entering our space when we asked them not to enter. because of this lack of respect for our laws it was decided to make pa kos in our space but still respect the NAP outside of it. im not sure of the incident with a pa hauler though. then the other night we went into fade and your combined force of g/iron/pa followed us in. a standoff for an hour occured. we had orders right up until then not to fire on PA. an alliance this close to the conflict shouldnt stay out of it ;) You chose the wrong side. This has been a gradual outcome of a tense build up. FoE will no be subdued by the agressors of the north (g/pa etc) *personal view on the new war* My vids and random stuff
christoforos	Posted - 2005.04.11 14:51:00 - [4] Max, you got the sequence of events a little wrong. Even if the hauler in Pure Blind was a mistake, a FoE fleet has attacked venal, Friday to Saturday night. 2005.04.09 02:28:00 Victim: fugazii Corporation: Forsaken Empire Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: H-PA29 System Security Level: 0.0 Ballistic Void has declared the ultimatum on us on Saturday afternoon. We teamed up with G and IRON in Fade after that and after talks between PA and FoE leaderships, that showed that there was little room for negotiation, since you wanted to force us to choose who our friends are, under the threat of war and you even threatened us to not pass through UMI-KK. Closing UMI-KK is a reason for war, by itself. Deputy Director of External Affairs The Phoenix Alliance
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2005.04.11 14:59:00 - [5] Should be an interesting conflict. GL to both sides, but on a personal note i hope FOE flattern PA/G :) Reverend Necrona
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.04.11 15:07:00 - [6] Dood they need to shoot something, they should have shot you ages ago, you're nice and close. I personally think FE only napped with you guys because the were weak at the time (read: playing lineage 2 and those left had enough to deal with), PA nap'd out of fear dont bring friendship into this, if i remember correctly PA was mostly made of anti priate corps at the tiem (kia, nsn, blades etc) and you nap'd with the biggest pirate alliance in the game because you didnt want to deal witht he whopin the nva got. You cant go around being buddy buddy with everyone and expect to go unattacked, eve is a dog eat dog world, you're either a hunter or the hunted I cant believe im gonna say this but GOGOGOGO FOE
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2005.04.11 15:24:00 - [7] Edited by: Rodney Munch on 11/04/2005 15:26:32 Cochise's post translated into a quick and easily readable post. - "Whaaaa why you shootin us, please dont, we dont like being shot at. We're really sorry that we had some ships fly in your space, if you see them again blow them up. Whaaaa whaaaaa puuuuuuuhlease dont shoot at us Mr FoE guys, we're the innocent ones." Great way to run your alliance huh, shoot at our alliance members thats fine, but please dont goto war with us. Grow some balls for god sakes. Anyway, /me grabs his pom poms. Gimme an "F", gimme an "o", gimme an "E". Gooooooo FoE.
skygrazer	Posted - 2005.04.11 15:34:00 - [8] Funny how G always seem to be on the run....just an observation
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2005.04.11 16:24:00 - [9] Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 11/04/2005 17:40:44 removed Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.11 16:52:00 - [10] Edited by: Foyle on 11/04/2005 16:55:14 FOEÆs Official Reply. While FOE and PA at one point were utilizing each others space, it became increasingly complicated to let it continue. Your nap with G, and IRON is your prerogative; however when PA members come to FOE space and are in the same system a large battle is going on, that crosses the line. After it became clear that there was no good judgement made by your members in these situations we then told you that your members will be flying in our space at their own risk. Then your members started putting up mobile warp bubbles in P3EN-E. The were removed once I contacted you. We napped with ATUK, that put you into anti BOB mode and just assumed we had naps with all of the corps who use to be in ôBOBö. Several times I told you, ATUK nap consisted of 5 corporations, 4 of which were at +10 since the creation of FOE. ATUK nap is our prerogative. But you wanted to then shoot them in our space. That was NOT acceptable to me. All though ATUK doesnÆt come to our space, I had to insist that if they did come here, your alliance was not to shoot them. To my knowledge that promise could not be made. Due to war and NAP conflicts, the demand was made for PA not to enter our space, and I placed an order for FOE members not to enter PA space. There was still no order to shoot any PA members in our space. 3 weeks pass and the problem did not resolve it self on that demand. You still had members coming through our space. Yet in all that time, I never once got an evemail saying I had any members disregarding orders and entering PA space. That really angered my pilots. The KOS order went into effect, any PA pilots entering FOE space and its protectorates would be shot down...........................................THEN I got an evemail from Raven accusing me of allowing Evolution to come through our space to attack PA. Which is absolutely BS. We had one sighting of Evol in OBE all though we couldnÆt catch him that night, he had no permission to come through our space and we have no agreement or nap with them. You didnÆt believe me. Eh fine. You went as far to say that FOE paid an Evol pilot to replace his BS for friendly fire; not correct, and if someone paid him to replace his BS, I would like the name of the pilot, because they didnÆt represent FOE in that transaction. As far as posting a chat log, itÆs ghey, its lame, and I wont ever enter into a chat with you again now that you have entered into that realm of gheyism. Leaders should never do that, it removes that trust level that still remained prior to war. OMG this post is long and boring.. Just have fun with the war, I know my guys will. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Zdragva	Posted - 2005.04.11 16:54:00 - [11] Well to be blatantly honest there is very little point imo about getting all upset over relationships with Force of Evil disintegrating. Some guy wrote about 'everlasting peace' and he was spot on. Im not saying FoE were dishonest or lied or anything like that im just saying that as the head or whatever of PA you must have realised exactly how difficult forming formal 'pacts' with FoE would be, especially over a long time. and then to be shocked and upset or angry afterwards, wft? Thats like being amazed when night falls. This though is what grabbed my attention; "we witness a g force attack us and then move into venal to escape us. we cant give chase. they did that many times. " HOW MANY of you in G alliance were absolutley fuming when ATUK did this to you? How many called it the lamest tactics, disgusting, and denounced it as shocking? Then to go do it yourselves? I dont know if it true or not, and I never will, but the more I read the more I wonder about just what the hell is going on with you guys. Shocking, if its true, absolutly disgusting.
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:11:00 - [12] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 11/04/2005 17:15:28 Okay bare with me this is going to be hard Ummm I cheer "go PA go!" (but I hope that G and Imperium get flattened by FOE before PA ultimately destroy FOE would be my ideal result) Not liking any of the territorial alliances in the north makes deciding who to cheer for difficult but since FOE have always been the bad guys they are probably the lesser evil to G. (though G and Imperium definately deserve to die as well) PA however have been trustworthy in my eyes recently since the end of the Northern War and some of their members are nice to talk to while hunting gurristas so praise where its due. (Of course this is just my personal opinion and shouldn't be taken as representing my alliance policy in any way.) If Star Fraction leaders could post I bet they'd say "reactionary imperialism leads to a climate of enduring betrayal and continuous diplomatic compromise" (or something really clever like that). I'm a bit simpler and just say "murder each other bad guys and lets hope one day the north gets an alliance that doesn't consider backstabbing and xenophobia the finest coin of state." (and have fun!) Star Fraction
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:21:00 - [13] G alliance shouldn't be flattered at all, They are a worthy opponent, but not the reason this war has commenced. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:24:00 - [14] Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 11/04/2005 17:41:12 removed Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:38:00 - [15] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 11/04/2005 17:39:13 Lucian please stop commenting on things you know absolutley nothing about. i understand your interest in the political climate of Eve, but dont spread rumours that are untrue. your latest post also bases itself on democracy, an important flaw in your opinions Democracy doesnt work in this game, as long as you have 1 or a small group of capable leaders, you will not go wrong. My vids and random stuff
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:45:00 - [16] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 11/04/2005 17:39:13 Lucian please stop commenting on things you know absolutley nothing about. i understand your interest in the political climate of Eve, but dont spread rumours that are untrue. your latest post also bases itself on democracy, an important flaw in your opinions Democracy doesnt work in this game, as long as you have 1 or a small group of capable leaders, you will not go wrong. STOP THE PRESSES!! Maxsuicide made a nice post with no flames and it was right on the isk!! Thanks Max! Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:46:00 - [17] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 11/04/2005 17:46:21 you may continue to praise me. If you wish. My vids and random stuff
Balistic Void	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:48:00 - [18] 3 weeks ago we were all buddy buddy, I was up in Venal doing Guristas missions () with PA. Things have degenerated rapidly since then. Don't make me out to be the bad guy, I was one of the few FoE member's trying to give PA a chance. The main blame lies with ROMANIA RENEGADES corp. These guys have been out to sabotage our NAP for months. There have been too many incidents to list. They would use PAs access to FoE space to feed intel to our enemies. Several times they were seen flying with enemy fleets in Pure Blind. The list goes on. And no I didn't keep evidence, we aren't a democracy and we don't need to justify our actions to anyone. As for friendly fire incidents, most of them were due to PA stupidity. They would accept a new member corp to their alliance, then that new member corp would fly through P3 and get owned. Why? Because we didn't have them set to +ve. All FoE corps would need to set them to +ve which would require the attention of directors in each and every corp. Not a trivial task. PA just automatically assumed that our friendly pirates would take the time to click show info and notice the Phoenix Alliance entry. Whereas in reality if a ship isn't blue our guys will gank it instantly (official policy). When the alliance standings fix comes in this problem will go away, too late now tho I recall some corps were smart enough to convo us first before jumping into P3, and our leaders would take the time to make sure everyone know that "randomminingcorp" were new PA members, and should be set to +ve and allowed to pass. The amount of work required, and the amount of alliance spam to "NOT SHOOT randomPAminingcorp" really ****ed our guys off. Far easier for us to just shoot you. I for one welcome our new EVOL neighbours and look forward to rounding up ex-PA to work in their underground ferrogel mines. BTW posting high-level diplomatic comms is extremely lame and universally frowned upon. Most people have the cop to use an alt to post stuff like that. Your career as a diplomat is over. (w000t Jade is posting again! C'mon Jade that post was sooo short! You can do much better!)
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:54:00 - [19] Hah! If you think you'd get such a simple post out of my cousin you've got another thing coming. I'm much simpler and just like blowing things up. If you wanna see the real deal ranter in the family go post something contentious on the star fraction forums cos the dragon still lives if you dare wake it Star Fraction
C4w3	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:58:00 - [20] Official reply. The times are changing the north is growing hot. We asked PA to choose side they did, we¦w always had fun fighting G and will keep fighting G and PA ..... Think we all saw this comming and hopefully it will be a blast. FoE stand towards diplomacy and politics are and will always be WTFM8TE**THAT**. Have the best of days and Chill C4w3 High Commander FoE Forces Foyle Bright Queen of FoE Forces Marichek Evil Mind FoE Forces "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Leno	Posted - 2005.04.11 19:20:00 - [21] Quite frankly i wouldnt put it past Haos, had some real problems with them while they were in FU, why they were kicked in the first place. --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
juduzz	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:27:00 - [22] These thread make me burst out with laughter. Think ill just paste what i wrote on the GODS forum. Quote: Both ***** sides are as bad as each other geeze. OK clarity of purposes POS was being removed under the agrement when FOE was to leave PA space (the POS pre dated clarities joning FOE). FOE hates PA: PA makes no objection to allowing IRON(Exodus/venture) ect to go into tenal and destroy the POS within this time period yet when FOE come across hostile of ours but friendly to PA we havnt fired on them. Lots of PA STILL using our space when it was made clear we stay the out of each others space untill this war with G dies off. Destruction of a few FOE ships and corps like ASW giving intel to our hostiles then trying to camp with FOE. You cant be *** friends with everyone .............................................................................................................. PA hates FOE: Multiple PA ships destroyed freindly fire incidents mainly to do with standings ( PA dosnt seem to update us on standings TBH alot with new corps but some corps also slow to update) PPL not staying the ** out of PA space especialy Phantom squad who sed to reside there as friends of the PA prior to joining FOE. FOE trying to make PA "pick sides" with the G war. FOE alliying with one of there greater past enermies ATUK. Yet exspecting PA to pick sides. The "rougue" attack on H-PA that started the War full scale. Have i missed anything? Also PA's external intell giving sucks donkey balls, FOE internal sucks donkey balls to. Got many Freinds in FOE and in PA as an EX member of both and it sadens me to see all this stuff happening :/ ----------------------------------------------
Goldavenger	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:35:00 - [23] All I'm going to say on this matter (and I think I speak for the majority of PA here)is that its very dissapointing that you would hold the actions of A FEW members of PA (did you happen to give the PA leadership their names yet so they can be dealt with internally?) to the alliance as a whole. Alliance members were told many times that if we enter FoE space we will be KOS and possibly face dismissal from the PA, and I know the majority of us followed those orders. Then, one night with no provocation there are FoE ships all over HPA. The next day we receive an ultimatum from FoE leadership trying to tell us who we can be friends with and to stay out of FREE space. We have tried very hard to keep our hands clean of this and stay neutral, for the benefit of our former allies that left PA for FoE. We put up with getting shot at by FoE members in their space when it was open to our alliance. When you NAP'd with one of our enemies to kill one of out allies, we didnt demand you break your NAP. Through all this, FoE has insisted on dragging us into this messy little conflict that theyve been embroiled in. Now all that is left to be said is game on and may the better alliance win.
Shirei	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:03:00 - [24] Originally by: juduzz Destruction of a few FOE ships and corps like ASW giving intel to our hostiles then trying to camp with FOE. ASW left PA about 2-4 months ago and are a member of G alliance.
Marichek	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:05:00 - [25] Our NAP with ATUK spawned from the fact that ATUK was getting friendly with 4 corps that we already had at +10. That, combined with the fact that they are across the entire map should make your argument completely null and void. It was PA who first tried to make us set standings to EXO and G to +10, solely for the purpose of NAPing anyone close to their space. It would have been a smart move, but HAOS and G's actions towards us solidified our stance toward IRON and PA. In-game, PA tries to NAP everyone, but then in the forums they beat their chest and blame it on FoE. We love having numerous enemies so close to us, PA knew this and still allowed G and EXO to use their space as a staging ground for attacks in FoE space. PA making the same mistakes they made in the past, and then making the same excuses they made in the past. There is a repetition to PAs behavior that goes back nearly 2 years, so quit trying to make yourselves look to be the good guys. We gave you a chance, you screwed up. Lets fight in-game and not here, ok? DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship.
juduzz	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:17:00 - [26] Originally by: Shirei Originally by: juduzz Destruction of a few FOE ships and corps like ASW giving intel to our hostiles then trying to camp with FOE. ASW left PA about 2-4 months ago and are a member of G alliance. Yer i know that was more of a "why X hates X" ect and thtas part of it IMO. ----------------------------------------------
The Clash	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:46:00 - [27] Edited by: The Clash on 11/04/2005 21:48:16 Originally by: Goldavenger All I'm going to say on this matter (and I think I speak for the majority of PA here)is that its very dissapointing that you would hold the actions of A FEW members of PA (did you happen to give the PA leadership their names yet so they can be dealt with internally?) to the alliance as a whole. been there done that and repeat it seems . it happend before that the PA set some people for example while they kinda knew it wasnt their members fault . Well..they refused to listen to the people who actually "knew" about facts . _________________ Retirement closing in .
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.11 22:23:00 - [28] Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while Eve Blacklight Style
Gungankllr	Posted - 2005.04.11 22:56:00 - [29] You know, I used to go fight PA on a regular basis when I was in Jericho, and for the most part they were pretty cool to fight. For the amount of times folks have said they were dead, they still have a pretty good member count. They must be doing something right. www.hadean.org
The Clash	Posted - 2005.04.11 23:10:00 - [30] Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? not the same but close it seems _________________ Retirement closing in .
Draconian	Posted - 2005.04.11 23:40:00 - [31] FOE invades twice into h-pa29 on the 8th for me(9th 0200 eve time) kills a frig with there gank squad and then gets sent running south with less ships then they starteed with me i was sadly in warp in 9-2 the worse system in eve when the fighting started and was 30secs late we r told by the new witch or the north aka folye that there rogue who r mad at the pa for not siding with foe asgainst foe/exo...blah blah excuses...pa really lost nothing so we talk then they invade again at 0500 killling a evol raven....i was asleep now i am personally ****ed but i am bussy with evol in pa space 9th late was the start of the war they build a fleet in p3en we think on just another foe attack on g/exo then we get intel foe r going to invading pa(i had intel they were planning to do it this weekend afew day ago) at the time we r fighting evol in 6nj then evol logs so we start forming a blob we were going on intel blob of foe gets to d7- and we get issued a demand to side with foe etc or foe will attack pawe had 10mins to decide r blob gets bigger and bigger theres looks smaller and smaller and then starts the foe back peddling....as in backing down when we refused there demands can we all say WW2 cept reversed b/c the germans our on the our side and werenot issueing a demand etc but u get the idea
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.11 23:52:00 - [32] Originally by: christoforos Max, you got the sequence of events a little wrong. Even if the hauler in Pure Blind was a mistake, a FoE fleet has attacked venal, Friday to Saturday night. 2005.04.09 02:28:00 Victim: fugazii Corporation: Forsaken Empire Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: H-PA29 System Security Level: 0.0 Ballistic Void has declared the ultimatum on us on Saturday afternoon. We teamed up with G and IRON in Fade after that and after talks between PA and FoE leaderships, that showed that there was little room for negotiation, since you wanted to force us to choose who our friends are, under the threat of war and you even threatened us to not pass through UMI-KK. Closing UMI-KK is a reason for war, by itself. dont bring killmails into this, it would be much more embarassing for your side. umi-kk is foe space plain and simple. not respecting our space is completely unacceptable, theres other ways to get to empire from your space but u CHOSE to violate our agreement and thus actions were taken. you brought it upon yourself.
Raven DeBlade	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:05:00 - [33] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: christoforos Max, you got the sequence of events a little wrong. Even if the hauler in Pure Blind was a mistake, a FoE fleet has attacked venal, Friday to Saturday night. 2005.04.09 02:28:00 Victim: fugazii Corporation: Forsaken Empire Destroyed Type: Apocalypse Solar System: H-PA29 System Security Level: 0.0 Ballistic Void has declared the ultimatum on us on Saturday afternoon. We teamed up with G and IRON in Fade after that and after talks between PA and FoE leaderships, that showed that there was little room for negotiation, since you wanted to force us to choose who our friends are, under the threat of war and you even threatened us to not pass through UMI-KK. Closing UMI-KK is a reason for war, by itself. dont bring killmails into this, it would be much more embarassing for your side. umi-kk is foe space plain and simple. not respecting our space is completely unacceptable, theres other ways to get to empire from your space but u CHOSE to violate our agreement and thus actions were taken. you brought it upon yourself. yeah right.... pa.stylii.com/index.asp "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" "Any statements made above this line are my persona"
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Draconian FOE invades twice into h-pa29 on the 8th for me(9th 0200 eve time) kills a frig with there gank squad and then gets sent running south with less ships then they starteed with me i was sadly in warp in 9-2 the worse system in eve when the fighting started and was 30secs late we r told by the new witch or the north aka folye that there rogue who r mad at the pa for not siding with foe asgainst foe/exo...blah blah excuses...pa really lost nothing so we talk then they invade again at 0500 killling a evol raven....i was asleep now i am personally **ed but i am bussy with evol in pa space 9th late was the start of the war they build a fleet in p3en we think on just another foe attack on g/exo then we get intel foe r going to invading pa(i had intel they were planning to do it this weekend afew day ago) at the time we r fighting evol in 6nj then evol logs so we start forming a blob we were going on intel blob of foe gets to d7- and we get issued a demand to side with foe etc or foe will attack pawe had 10mins to decide r blob gets bigger and bigger theres looks smaller and smaller and then starts the foe back peddling....as in backing down when we refused there demands can we all say WW2 cept reversed b/c the germans our on the our side and werenot issueing a demand etc but u get the idea You call me ôwitchö like itÆs a bad thing? Its not; and thank you for the compliment. Name calling is as lame as chat log posting. You can spam your spew, and live in your democratic warp bubble until your ship explodes. The fact of the matter is, your members wrenched at the fact that they couldnÆt mold us into being the allies you wanted 7 jumps out. Your alliance is so stuck in this ôAnti BOBö mode that you donÆt even know what is going on around you. HELLO !! Is there an entity called ôBOBö existing anymore ? Another warp bubble you are in. Most alliance would have declared war after the first act of fraternizing with the enemy in their space. I was there for that first encounter 6 weeks ago in D7-ZAC and I ordered that pilot shot down- and he was. He did not belong in our space when a battle was about to engage. We have not back peddled on anything. The conversation was left unsettled, the fleet was ordered towards the G blob, and PA made their decision to meet up with them and help G. Not a problem, At that point, PA was officially placed at war with FOE. I never said I had rouge pilots mad at PA, I think I said ômy guys are *edö they were/are. We do not show info on our targets, our policy works as such, ôif is isnÆt blue, kill itöPA use to tell us a corp was a part of PA after we blew up their ship passing through P3E aimlessly. So yes because of their lack of keeping me up to date, a lot of their new members died passing through vale and tribute. Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? ATUK NAP4TW Now I will go ônapö with C4W3 where there is good loving now you get the idea* Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Eversor	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:24:00 - [35] Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't. I still love you Eversor Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Eversor	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:35:00 - [37] Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:34:47 Originally by: Foyle Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't. I still love you Eversor Methinks I am going to be in trouble at the next PA council meeting.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 00:42:00 - [38] Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:34:47 Originally by: Foyle Originally by: Eversor Edited by: Eversor on 12/04/2005 00:24:47 Originally by: Foyle Did you really think that a pirate alliance and PA could exist in NAP forever? Hehe, well obviously you didn't. I still love you Eversor Methinks I am going to be in trouble at the next PA council meeting. Council meeting's suxsor. This year, I will be at the beach Saturday afternoons getting a tan, not sitting in a council meeting. I learned the hard way, its a game, play it don't try and recreate it. Still loving Eversor when C4W3 isn't looking Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Draconian	Posted - 2005.04.12 01:28:00 - [39] folye sry to say but u guys been claiming standing screws up on old pa corps for months and i had the directors of those foe who r my friends check when standing were changed omfg to my supprise they the corp at +10 and shot not really resent acts occured like this outside foe space in pureblind and empire etc dont give me oh they were new corp line i got ennuff friends in foe to understand qwhat was going on
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.12 01:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Draconian folye sry to say but u guys been claiming standing screws up on old pa corps for months and i had the directors of those foe who r my friends check when standing were changed omfg to my supprise they the corp at +10 and shot not really resent acts occured like this outside foe space in pureblind and empire etc dont give me oh they were new corp line i got ennuff friends in foe to understand qwhat was going on Well you got what you wanted, you have been one of the pain in the asses we have been dealing with for a while now. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.12 01:40:00 - [41] It's so nice to sit back and relax to observe all the vitriolic politics in the north without being involved this time around. I hope you have a nice war and please keep the forum action up it's entertaining lots of us Eve Blacklight Style
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.12 04:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Blacklight It's so nice to sit back and relax to observe all the vitriolic politics in the north without being involved this time around. I hope you have a nice war and please keep the forum action up it's entertaining lots of us have u noticed the forums hav been a bit lacking lately? least i hav.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.12 05:43:00 - [43] This bickering is pointless. Both parties have friends on the other side and both groups have already said they arent out to destroy the other party. Let everyone not turn this into the GNW. On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Even EVOL have stopped flaming the PA. Lol even JF are siding with PA now. Talk about being stuck in the past. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.12 05:58:00 - [44] Originally by: Darken Two On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Even EVOL have stopped flaming the PA. Lol even JF are siding with PA now. Talk about being stuck in the past. Erm where is the bitterness posted by BNC? Show me one instance of me flaming the PA since the end of the GNW, if you can? All I said was that it was nice to not be involved in the vitriol for a change i.e. fun to observe the political shennanigans and flaming without being associated in any way. BNC never really took part in the old flame wars with/about the PA so please don't insinuate we are now. Our corp spent a long long time up north and so will always maintain an interest, just as you apparently do. I can absolutely assure you there is no bitterness between BNC and any of the northern corps, many of whom I personally hold in high regard (VNTR, Blades, FE etc.). I've had a personal interest in what FE are upto since the RSA war over a year ago because they are such fun to fight. As far as our attitude to PA is concerned we're ambivalent, many of the old protagonists are long gone, including ourselves. For a snapshot of how we feel towards some of those old protagonists you'd do well to observe the occasional banter that goes on between BNC and KIA or the casual friendship some BNC have always had with NSN, it's all very good natured. Stuck in the past neither I nor any of my guys/gals are, we've moved onto new challenges now and are happily playing our way through them. What happened in the GNW is merely player driven content resigned to the history books and a damn fine tale it makes. So Darken, you may want to reconsider your perceptions regarding BNC's and my own personal commentary in threads like this becase you are way way off the mark. I'll butt out of Cochise's thread now and just observe interestedly from the sidelines. Eve Blacklight Style
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.12 06:27:00 - [45] Edited by: Darken Two on 12/04/2005 06:38:42 Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while What exactly does this mean then?? From what I can see, since you thought PA was in the wrong last time, you think the same this time and would like to come and fight them again for the same reasons. So yea I stand by what I said. Unless you wanna tell me what I understodd wrong in the quoted statement. As for who you talk to, I dont really care. pS. This isnt said enough but Cochise is a gereat leader. He cant be bullied and he's a Jedi Master and cutting through bullsh1t. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.12 06:35:00 - [46] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while What exactly does this mean then?? From what I can see, since you thought PA was in the wrong last time, you think the same this time and would like to come and fight them again for the same reasons. So yea I stand by what I said. Unless you wanna tell me what I understodd wrong in the quoted statement. As for who you talk to, I dont really care. I was referring to the north about to explode into war again, we had far more involvement up north than just the war against the PA and I wasn't merely referring to them. So yes you understood wrong. Eve Blacklight Style
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.12 07:12:00 - [47] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Blacklight Deja vu anyone? I'm almost tempted to come and visit for a while What exactly does this mean then?? From what I can see, since you thought PA was in the wrong last time, you think the same this time and would like to come and fight them again for the same reasons. So yea I stand by what I said. Unless you wanna tell me what I understodd wrong in the quoted statement. As for who you talk to, I dont really care. I was referring to the north about to explode into war again, we had far more involvement up north than just the war against the PA and I wasn't merely referring to them. So yes you understood wrong. Seriously weak argument there but for the sake of keeping this thread clean, I will let it go at that. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
WildCard	Posted - 2005.04.12 08:37:00 - [48] From the [G] view: [G] has had a NAP with PA also with FoE. Celtic Industries Members decided that is is funny to gank several [G] members in [G] Space. And it is realy pretty annoying if you got killed by "Blue"-people. [G] Diplomats talked to them, and Celtic Industries confirmed that is was a mistake, and standings are now corrected + 5.1 Ten Minutes later.... next ganking from Celtic Industries. Sidenote: The pilot which confirmed the NAP, was the leader of the ganking-squard. Form this moment it was clear for [G] what is to do. And now, it is so as it is. Who cares. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Rehen	Posted - 2005.04.12 20:06:00 - [49] you have to wait 10 min for teh celtic admins to get round to aplying standings, some days it can even be as long as 30 min. Sorry for any problems that have been cause by are shortage of admin staff. rehen
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2005.04.12 20:51:00 - [50] Quote: On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Im not bitter at all. I dont hate anyone in this game, as its just a game, I was merely playin the role of the character (this being an IC forum 'n all). RKK were betrayed by their former allies, if that happened to you in real life, wouldnt you be bitter at that person(s)? Out of character Im glad the war happened, it was great fun and a huge learning experience thats benefited me and the corp to the fullest.
Nagilam	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:07:00 - [51] All i will say is have fun and may the best win. Celestial Apocalypse vs FOE PA/G Alliance vs FOE Nice mixing with you guys. See you out there
Iyam Urmastr	Posted - 2005.04.13 04:37:00 - [52] I actually like most of the Foe guys, but we can only take so much bus (and I don't mean battleship). We had a decent arrangement with right of passage, non aggression, hunting, etc. What really started our worsened relationship from a PA point of view was caused by the following: A pos that was put up in our space. Foyle agreed to have it taken down, but five weeks later it was still up even after numerous requests to have it taken down. It wasn't even kept with a low profile. Anyone who looked at the map could see it as an FoE claimed system. Talk about total disrespect. The repeated attacks on PA members in FoE space while we has a right of passage agreement and outside FoE space right until the war started. It wasn't all of Foe, but a very limited number of FoE corps. CORP1 had to be the worst. Either those guys couldn't get their standings straight or the just enjoyed shooting anything in sight. The closing off of FoE space for travel, which was prompted by the arrival of ATUK. Hey, choose your friends how you like. I'm just saying that it raised a few eyebrows. The attack of PA members in PA space. I warped to a gate in H-PA and there sit a bunch of FoE who decide to open fire on me. I was a bit surprised at that. In the end, all they accomplished was them losing some frigs, pods, and an Apoc. Last but not least, the demand. What a joke. Think about what your response would be if someone gave you an ultimatum. So, lock and load. See ya on the battlefield.
Iyam Urmastr	Posted - 2005.04.13 04:38:00 - [53] oops.. I meant bs, not bus. Dang spellcheck.
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.13 05:52:00 - [54] Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 05:59:44 Quote: A pos that was put up in our space. Foyle agreed to have it taken down, but five weeks later it was still up even after numerous requests to have it taken down. It wasn't even kept with a low profile. Anyone who looked at the map could see it as an FoE claimed system. Talk about total disrespect. The POS was put up by the corp prior to them joining FOE, when I was made aware of it, I did tell them to get it out. The corp then spoke to RavenDeblade and he did not push the issue and said it could stay up for now When Eversor mentioned it to me, I told him that Raven and the corp were working it out. When Cochise said something to me about it... I wondered how often leadership spoke to each other. YOUR NAVY LET THEM KEEP IT UP, NOT ME!! Quote: * The repeated attacks on PA members in FoE space while we has a right of passage agreement and outside FoE space right until the war started. It wasn't all of Foe, but a very limited number of FoE corps. CORP1 had to be the worst. Either those guys couldn't get their standings straight or the just enjoyed shooting anything in sight. Well, lets not recruit a corp into PA,.....then say, yea, your corp is PA now, you can jump through tribute on the NAP, you wont die. There was one occasion the corp joined PA the same day as ôfriendly fireö and YES, they enjoy shooting everything in sight. Quote: * The closing off of FoE space for travel, which was prompted by the arrival of ATUK. Hey, choose your friends how you like. I'm just saying that it raised a few eyebrows. Closing FOE space was for multiple reasons, all of which was brought on by PA, and war conflicts. As for your raised eyebrows, that is due to your warp bubble you have your head in about "BOB" Quote: * The attack of PA members in PA space. I warped to a gate in H-PA and there sit a bunch of FoE who decide to open fire on me. I was a bit surprised at that. In the end, all they accomplished was them losing some frigs, pods, and an Apoc. Finally something factual. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:51:00 - [55] Originally by: Rodney Munch Quote: On a side note, its funny to see the bitterness in the RKK and BNC folks. Im not bitter at all. I dont hate anyone in this game, as its just a game, I was merely playin the role of the character (this being an IC forum 'n all). RKK were betrayed by their former allies, if that happened to you in real life, wouldnt you be bitter at that person(s)? Out of character Im glad the war happened, it was great fun and a huge learning experience thats benefited me and the corp to the fullest. Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Ly'sol	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:34:00 - [56] I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:39:00 - [57] Originally by: Ly'sol I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> What did you think, they would all wear pink skirts and pick flowers or sumin?? They are all friendly and havin fun shooting at each other, thats why they pay good money to play this game. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Darken Two Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) shh fanboi, you are ruining a good thread. Go make a omg i hate rkk thread on our forums and keep it off eve-o. cheers, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:44:00 - [59] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Darken Two Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) shh fanboi, you are ruining a good thread. Go make a omg i hate rkk thread on our forums and keep it off eve-o. cheers, dbp Well I dont DBp I only get ****ed wheneevr I see Sun Ra and his stupid "I HATE PA" posts. If I did hate RKK I would be spamming all your threads with irrelevant nonsense dont ya think. And when was thge last time you saw me dissing RKK? Even here all I said is that some people have trouble lettin go. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Ly'sol	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:46:00 - [60] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Ly'sol I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> What did you think, they would all wear pink skirts and pick flowers or sumin?? They are all friendly and havin fun shooting at each other, thats why they pay good money to play this game. Could have left the whole pink skirts and things out...cus it made your statment a little freaky. Anyways, in response...I thank you to point out the fact that this is a game to me. The observations of the general attitude of the threads involeing this says a different story. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Ly'sol	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:48:00 - [61] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Darken Two Firstly your perception of history is strangely screwed up. And chasing around every thread on every forum which has the word "PA" in it is not roleplaying, its just being bitter. So I stand by what I said(Tho its not really you, its Sun Ra who seems to be the stalker to be honest) shh fanboi, you are ruining a good thread. Go make a omg i hate rkk thread on our forums and keep it off eve-o. cheers, dbp Well I dont DBp I only get ****ed wheneevr I see Sun Ra and his stupid "I HATE PA" posts. If I did hate RKK I would be spamming all your threads with irrelevant nonsense dont ya think. And when was thge last time you saw me dissing RKK? Even here all I said is that some people have trouble lettin go. Well look on the flip side of the coin Darken. Your mindless almost fanatic loyalty and defending of PA might do the same for other people. So technically its a sideliner calling another sideliner stupid for being a sideliner. I see that as kinda self-defeating. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.04.13 10:24:00 - [62] I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige.
Malken	Posted - 2005.04.13 10:24:00 - [63] Originally by: Ly'sol Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Ly'sol I have to say this is interesting. Without a target for the north to -10 to focus on, they canablise each other. Kinda worked out how i figured it would. So detachedly I say Good luck and serves yea right for choosing each other as "friends". <Sets up camp by the riverside to watch the bodies start to float past.> What did you think, they would all wear pink skirts and pick flowers or sumin?? They are all friendly and havin fun shooting at each other, thats why they pay good money to play this game. Could have left the whole pink skirts and things out...cus it made your statment a little freaky. Anyways, in response...I thank you to point out the fact that this is a game to me. The observations of the general attitude of the threads involeing this says a different story. dont dizz my pink skirts damnit it got white lace on it also Originally by: Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 11:58:00 - [64] Originally by: Dianabolic I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige. Oh look its the RKK forum gank squad out to get me. ONOES what will I do now. Defending my friends is not a sign that I need a hug. Being unable to let go of the past and forum spamming imaginary bull**** like you lot are significant in some way, on the other hand, means you lot get a lollipop. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2005.04.13 12:26:00 - [65] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Dianabolic I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige. Oh look its the RKK forum gank squad out to get me. ONOES what will I do now. Defending my friends is not a sign that I need a hug. Being unable to let go of the past and forum spamming imaginary bull**** like you lot are significant in some way, on the other hand, means you lot get a lollipop. lmfao, gotta love this guy, hes a comedian.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 13:06:00 - [66] Originally by: Rodney Munch Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Dianabolic I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige. Oh look its the RKK forum gank squad out to get me. ONOES what will I do now. Defending my friends is not a sign that I need a hug. Being unable to let go of the past and forum spamming imaginary bull**** like you lot are significant in some way, on the other hand, means you lot get a lollipop. lmfao, gotta love this guy, hes a comedian. Hey my friends say so too, tho I'm sure they dont mean it the same way you do. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Dave Toz	Posted - 2005.04.13 15:42:00 - [67] Foyle Using new PA corps as an excuse for Friendly Fire is a joke, Corp1 and Celtic Industries always (tried too) fire on Blades, bladerunners can hardly be called a new PA corp by evan your standards. You would keep alot more respect by simply saying, 'were bored, lets fight'. instead of trying to come up with none existant reasons of justification.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.04.13 15:48:00 - [68] Edited by: ParMizaN on 13/04/2005 15:50:13 FoE was not bored .. we just added the third alliance to our "active" hitlist (ie kill them now not whenever) We do have justification, although we dont really need it. The friendly fire incidents "were" a problem... as you well know we are very trigger happy.. but the alliance was ordered NOT to shoot any pa until the "kos in our space" order was given. After this, we were not ordered to fire on you until our fleets had actually engaged. ------------------ Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.13 16:58:00 - [69] Originally by: Dave Toz Foyle Using new PA corps as an excuse for Friendly Fire is a joke, Corp1 and Celtic Industries always (tried too) fire on Blades, bladerunners can hardly be called a new PA corp by evan your standards. You would keep alot more respect by simply saying, 'were bored, lets fight'. instead of trying to come up with none existant reasons of justification. cant be trusted until proof is shown. My vids and random stuff
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.13 17:09:00 - [70] Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 17:10:09 Originally by: Dave Toz Foyle Using new PA corps as an excuse for Friendly Fire is a joke, Corp1 and Celtic Industries always (tried too) fire on Blades, bladerunners can hardly be called a new PA corp by evan your standards. You would keep alot more respect by simply saying, 'were bored, lets fight'. instead of trying to come up with none existant reasons of justification. Oh, you mean tell you what you want to hear? sure, whatever makes your warpcore stabs work. We were so freaking bored, we had nothing to do. We pretended to not know what the hell we were doing and shot at PA members for laughs and giggles. Oh did I mention they were drunk and didn't know what they were doing? See we can't hold them responsible for their actions due to alcohol overload. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the truth will set you free. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.04.13 17:30:00 - [71] Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 17:10:09 Originally by: Dave Toz Foyle Using new PA corps as an excuse for Friendly Fire is a joke, Corp1 and Celtic Industries always (tried too) fire on Blades, bladerunners can hardly be called a new PA corp by evan your standards. You would keep alot more respect by simply saying, 'were bored, lets fight'. instead of trying to come up with none existant reasons of justification. Oh, you mean tell you what you want to hear? sure, whatever makes your warpcore stabs work. We were so freaking bored, we had nothing to do. We pretended to not know what the hell we were doing and shot at PA members for laughs and giggles. Oh did I mention they were drunk, had RL problems and didn't know what they were doing? See we can't hold them responsible for their actions due to alcohol overload. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the truth will set you free. lol, dip me in chocolate and call me a nutbar but I'm getting the sense that Foyle can't be arsed to come up with political justifications and just wants a fight - its actually pretty refreshing. Star Fraction
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.04.13 17:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Dianabolic I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige. Oh look its the RKK forum gank squad out to get me. ONOES what will I do now. Defending my friends is not a sign that I need a hug. Being unable to let go of the past and forum spamming imaginary bull**** like you lot are significant in some way, on the other hand, means you lot get a lollipop. Nope, we're not ganking anyone, we're just replying to your purile bitterness towards ourselves. Not a single RKK member has posted anything even remotely "bitter" about any topic regarding the PA. You, however, seem to have quite serious issues, with RKK. Might I suggest taking a few days out, away from the forums, stroking yourself a bit more, perhaps in the hope that you'll calm down?
Arnhelm Maas	Posted - 2005.04.13 18:26:00 - [73] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine lol, dip me in chocolate and call me a nutbar ... its actually pretty refreshing. Mmmm ... refreshing Jasmine-flavored chocolate nutbar ... mmmm.
Malken	Posted - 2005.04.13 18:27:00 - [74] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Dianabolic I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige. Oh look its the RKK forum gank squad out to get me. ONOES what will I do now. Defending my friends is not a sign that I need a hug. Being unable to let go of the past and forum spamming imaginary bull** like you lot are significant in some way, on the other hand, means you lot get a lollipop. Nope, we're not ganking anyone, we're just replying to your purile bitterness towards ourselves. Not a single RKK member has posted anything even remotely "bitter" about any topic regarding the PA. You, however, seem to have quite serious issues, with RKK. Might I suggest taking a few days out, away from the forums, stroking yourself a bit more, perhaps in the hope that you'll calm down? haha Originally by:** Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
Foyle	Posted - 2005.04.13 18:34:00 - [75] Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 18:33:58 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 17:10:09 Originally by: Dave Toz Foyle Using new PA corps as an excuse for Friendly Fire is a joke, Corp1 and Celtic Industries always (tried too) fire on Blades, bladerunners can hardly be called a new PA corp by evan your standards. You would keep alot more respect by simply saying, 'were bored, lets fight'. instead of trying to come up with none existant reasons of justification. Oh, you mean tell you what you want to hear? sure, whatever makes your warpcore stabs work. We were so freaking bored, we had nothing to do. We pretended to not know what the hell we were doing and shot at PA members for laughs and giggles. Oh did I mention they were drunk, had RL problems and didn't know what they were doing? See we can't hold them responsible for their actions due to alcohol overload. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the truth will set you free. lol, dip me in chocolate and call me a nutbar but I'm getting the sense that Foyle can't be arsed to come up with political justifications and just wants a fight - its actually pretty refreshing. Actually, your correct. I don't have to justify this war. Nor can I be arsed to care too. PA can have all the politics they want, I don't wish to join that arena. Now if you are of the proper anatomy I would be happy to dip you in chocolate. Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 18:37:00 - [76] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Dianabolic I think Darken Two needs a hug. Daakkon is still around somewhere, I'm sure he'll oblige. Oh look its the RKK forum gank squad out to get me. ONOES what will I do now. Defending my friends is not a sign that I need a hug. Being unable to let go of the past and forum spamming imaginary bull**** like you lot are significant in some way, on the other hand, means you lot get a lollipop. Nope, we're not ganking anyone, we're just replying to your purile bitterness towards ourselves. Not a single RKK member has posted anything even remotely "bitter" about any topic regarding the PA. You, however, seem to have quite serious issues, with RKK. Might I suggest taking a few days out, away from the forums, stroking yourself a bit more, perhaps in the hope that you'll calm down? Hehe I see. If I am the one who has problems, then why is it that the first two repliesa on this thread are from RKK members being asshats? And like I said I have no problem with RKK just a few like Sun Ra who seems to be on every thread even remotely related to PA telling everyone how he thinks in his deluded mind that PA are lamers. Oh and Diana, arent you the one who ran off and joined the BoB squad becos TPS guys werent stroking each other enough? Any man who abandons his friends so he can be a l337b0i doesnt get to talk like they matter in any way, shape or form. Have a good day and get yourself a penthouse subscription seems liek you need it. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Dave Toz	Posted - 2005.04.13 18:41:00 - [77] thank you Foyle, see the truth doesnt hurt :) now lets take it on the servers. How do i prove what i say on voice comms. never mind i know how it was as much as you do. Cya on the server
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.13 18:47:00 - [78] Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 18:33:58 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Foyle Edited by: Foyle on 13/04/2005 17:10:09 Originally by: Dave Toz Foyle Using new PA corps as an excuse for Friendly Fire is a joke, Corp1 and Celtic Industries always (tried too) fire on Blades, bladerunners can hardly be called a new PA corp by evan your standards. You would keep alot more respect by simply saying, 'were bored, lets fight'. instead of trying to come up with none existant reasons of justification. Oh, you mean tell you what you want to hear? sure, whatever makes your warpcore stabs work. We were so freaking bored, we had nothing to do. We pretended to not know what the hell we were doing and shot at PA members for laughs and giggles. Oh did I mention they were drunk, had RL problems and didn't know what they were doing? See we can't hold them responsible for their actions due to alcohol overload. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the truth will set you free. lol, dip me in chocolate and call me a nutbar but I'm getting the sense that Foyle can't be arsed to come up with political justifications and just wants a fight - its actually pretty refreshing. Actually, your correct. I don't have to justify this war. Nor can I be arsed to care too. PA can have all the politics they want, I don't wish to join that arena. Now if you are of the proper anatomy I would be happy to dip you in chocolate. FOYLE 4TW !!! Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.13 19:49:00 - [79] Originally by: Dave Toz thank you Foyle, see the truth doesnt hurt :) now lets take it on the servers. How do i prove what i say on voice comms. never mind i know how it was as much as you do. Cya on the server didnt u read? she said that because its what u guys wanted to hear. not because those are the reasons. smack 4tw! wcstabs 4tl. My vids and random stuff
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.04.13 21:14:00 - [80] Originally by: Darken Two Hehe I see. If I am the one who has problems, then why is it that the first two repliesa on this thread are from RKK members being asshats? And like I said I have no problem with RKK just a few like Sun Ra who seems to be on every thread even remotely related to PA telling everyone how he thinks in his deluded mind that PA are lamers. Oh and Diana, arent you the one who ran off and joined the BoB squad becos TPS guys werent stroking each other enough? Any man who abandons his friends so he can be a l337b0i doesnt get to talk like they matter in any way, shape or form. Darken, you can't count. Replies 5,7 and 7 were from RKK, on the first page. Get yourself an education. Secondly, I left TPS because there was an influx of people who didn't like not being in control and not having access to everything. We were accused of fraudulent activities and decided that it wasn't worth our time fighting it. So, not only do you need an education, you also need some factual data with which to backup your weack, whining, ill thought out and false argument. Asking me how TPS is, Darken, is like saying "hey, I've not got a leg to stand on, let's see if this will shake him". It won't.
Ly'sol	Posted - 2005.04.13 23:29:00 - [81] Hey ah Darken Two, Observation you may want to take note of. Ummm your trolling is the only thing driving the thread now. And uh <coughs> 19. Avoid using profanity. Have a nice day. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.04.13 23:45:00 - [82] Quote: Actually, your correct. I don't have to justify this war. Nor can I be arsed to care too. PA can have all the politics they want, I don't wish to join that arena. Now if you are of the proper anatomy I would be happy to dip you in chocolate. I'm strangely aroused (not sure if its the honesty or the imagery) Star Fraction
SageOfMystery	Posted - 2005.04.14 01:07:00 - [83] i for one would like to cheer on my friend lord azron in this fight. :D
Snake Andromeda	Posted - 2005.04.14 04:11:00 - [84] The tables are set the orchestra hired, now it is time to see if you can dance. He was a man, take him for all in all, I shall not look upon his like again.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.14 05:40:00 - [85] The moment I get squemish reading my own posts, I know thers sumin wrong. So I repent in dust and ashes and go off to troll some other thread. Good thing I'm still not in PA I would be a disgrace to them. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Raven DeBlade	Posted - 2005.04.14 10:13:00 - [86] Why is it so hard to keep a single thread smackfree, tidy and on topic? "To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" "Any statements made above this line are my persona"
Cochise	Posted - 2005.04.14 11:48:00 - [87] Edited by: Cochise on 14/04/2005 11:48:22 Originally by: Raven DeBlade Why is it so hard to keep a single thread smackfree, tidy and on topic? Yeah sad but true, Mr. ISD wizard please lock this soap opera as its in the gutter now.
Malken	Posted - 2005.04.14 12:15:00 - [88] Originally by: Raven DeBlade Why is it so hard to keep a single thread smackfree, tidy and on topic? Darken two ? Originally by: Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
Captain Morria	Posted - 2005.04.14 14:26:00 - [89] ..does anybody have an aspirine or som'thin ?
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.14 15:15:00 - [90] I would like to say I am entirely responsible for ruining this thread. I sincerely apologise to Cochise, PA and everyone else for all the nonsensical garbage I threw out in this thread. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.14 15:39:00 - [91] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 14/04/2005 15:38:42 yea, darken go away, pa and foe only in this club having fun so far...'things can only get better' as the song goes My vids and random stuff
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.14 17:02:00 - [92] Cool whos winning atm?
Malikin	Posted - 2005.04.14 17:04:00 - [93] Admittedly i havnt read all the thread, but it seems to me that PA have a point..... maybe FOE should being speaking with G alliance rather than just throwing away a friendship with PA. I have fought PA in the past with the old FE alliance and they were always honourable and stuck to their word. The north should be growing strong and combatting the alliances like xetic together (has everyone forgot we were at war with xetic not a month ago!) and as for the chat long posted by the bladrunner representative....WHAT A JOKE!!!!!
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2005.04.14 17:54:00 - [94] Originally by: Darken Two Lol even JF are siding with PA now. I'll make it even, then... Yay, FOE! Go FOE! Kill kill kill!!!! OOCly (since this is an IC forum): Good luck, both sides, and have fun. ICly: Someone get me some spiced wine while I sit here and watch the blood flow, k? There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense
Eversor	Posted - 2005.04.14 18:13:00 - [95] Originally by: Nepereta Cool whos winning atm? Both sides are having PvP fun, that's all that matters. And yes lets keep it smack free and clean, let the guns and missile bays do the talking. Regards Ev.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.14 18:49:00 - [96] Originally by: Malikin Admittedly i havnt read all the thread, but it seems to me that PA have a point..... maybe FOE should being speaking with G alliance rather than just throwing away a friendship with PA. I have fought PA in the past with the old FE alliance and they were always honourable and stuck to their word. The north should be growing strong and combatting the alliances like xetic together (has everyone forgot we were at war with xetic not a month ago!) and as for the chat long posted by the bladrunner representative....WHAT A JOKE!!!!! couldnt agree more, a lot of the IRON folks know my views at least, united north to 'rule the galaxy!' etc... also i keep telling darko we should mine together sometime. but he keeps avoiding me recently My vids and random stuff
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2005.04.14 19:13:00 - [97] Originally by: Cochise Edited by: Cochise on 14/04/2005 11:48:22 Originally by: Raven DeBlade Why is it so hard to keep a single thread smackfree, tidy and on topic? Yeah sad but true, Mr. ISD wizard please lock this soap opera as its in the gutter now. Dear delegates and representatives, This interstellar communication had been locked at the request of the author. Kindest Regards, Zhuge Liang Intergalatic Summit Mediator Communication Relay Commission Yulai IX - CONCORD Bureau Genesis ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)

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