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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.11 18:24:00 -
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I get a lot of flames about being in an NPC corp, which prevents wars, retaliation, etc. I find this to be a bit amusing, because the complaints are simply excuses.
The reason I am so amused is that people don't seem to understand the element of clever strategy in a game that is based around such an aspect. Do I use game mechanics for my own benefit? Yes I do. Can you do it too? Yes, yes you can.
Yesterday a fellow ore thief and I decieded that it was time for a pretentious miner to die. So we blew up her Iteron V in a 0.9 system. She was hiding out in (OHNOES!!) an NPC corp for protection. Her beautiful blue explosion was worth the 2.5% security hit satisfaction. Did we lose our ships? Sure. We acknowledge the game mechanics and plan accordingly, with strategic teamwork. I respect those that have the tenacity to do so. Have a Plan. Use your head and think a bit.
For those of you who want us to go away, know that we are here to stay. We do it for the entertainment, the rush, the spice of life. No good work of fiction would be complete without a villain. We provide that for you. If our profession was nerfed illegal we would still find a way to do it, in cloaked ships or in a Raven. In a Dreadnaught or a Titan. We will have your ore and more. =)
So I implore you... stop whining, kick back, and enjoy a nice frosty Quafe.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.04.11 18:58:00 -
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Isn't that lovely... i'm glad you're enjoying yourself in eve.
Oh, and if you're paying for the quafe, i'll take one too 
BTW... nice hair.
COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET |
Espen
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Posted - 2005.04.11 19:05:00 -
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.11 19:27:00 -
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In fact, I often give out Quafe as a consolation prize. If you would like some, head down to Gallente n00b space, drop me a convo, and I'll hit you up with a cold one.
 Originally by: Verone
Isn't that lovely... i'm glad you're enjoying yourself in eve.
Oh, and if you're paying for the quafe, i'll take one too
BTW... nice hair.
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Just Looking2
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Posted - 2005.04.11 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Sky
In fact, I often give out Quafe as a consolation prize. If you would like some, head down to Gallente n00b space, drop me a convo, and I'll hit you up with a cold one.
Originally by: Verone
Isn't that lovely... i'm glad you're enjoying yourself in eve.
Oh, and if you're paying for the quafe, i'll take one too
BTW... nice hair.
ooooh oooh me me O/
mmmmmmmmmmmmm cold crisp Quafe 
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:01:00 -
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A new day is dawning in EVE. Now not only will Empire miners have their ore stolen, but they will face Retribution and Death if they annoy the ore theives.
We're not waiting for CCP to get around to programming it.
It's open season on miners!
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mavskji
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:05:00 -
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lmao
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Isn't that lovely... i'm glad you're enjoying yourself in eve.
Oh, and if you're paying for the quafe, i'll take one too
BTW... nice hair.
Verone, stop trying to pull on the forums
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:37:00 -
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Ooh lookie, a 25 day old character. I hope you dont see the biomass pile too soon.
Why dont you post with your carebear main?
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Big doggy
A new day is dawning in EVE. Now not only will Empire miners have their ore stolen, but they will face Retribution and Death if they annoy the ore theives.
We're not waiting for CCP to get around to programming it.
It's open season on miners!
HAHhahaha!
quite funneh this...
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Zensagan
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:54:00 -
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Because Ashley is better at Public Relations as she is much more attractive. I, however, am better at stealing your mission loot in my interceptor. ;-)
Originally by: MutationZ
Ooh lookie, a 25 day old character. I hope you dont see the biomass pile too soon.
Why dont you post with your carebear main?
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.04.11 23:15:00 -
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As I always say Ore theives for the win!
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.04.12 04:59:00 -
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Apparently they have prizes inside.
Oh wait, that is the suicide alts. (Which if abused to the point of being noticed can get your account banned.)
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VinterDvala
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Posted - 2005.04.12 08:21:00 -
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you and your friends are l33t lamers...period..you serve no good in the game or the community and braging about killing an indy in empire just shows how nubish and how much of a joke u are...so congrats on your uber kill..you are indeed the best of the best.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.04.12 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Big doggy
A new day is dawning in EVE. Now not only will Empire miners have their ore stolen, but they will face Retribution and Death if they annoy the ore theives.
We're not waiting for CCP to get around to programming it.
It's open season on miners!
HAHhahaha!
/emote watches the price of your next suicide ship rise as even fewer people want to mine.
Isn't it great to see thieves biting the hand that feeds them?
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.12 19:57:00 -
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/emote watches the price of your next suicide ship rise as even fewer people want to mine.
Isn't it great to see thieves biting the hand that feeds them?
Wrong again!!!!!!!!
We mine too!!!!!!!!!
But we do it right!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dreaming Dogs
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Posted - 2005.04.12 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: VinterDvala
you and your friends are l33t lamers...period..you serve no good in the game or the community and braging about killing an indy in empire just shows how nubish and how much of a joke u are...so congrats on your uber kill..you are indeed the best of the best.
I think this person is in the wrong thread or extremely confused. |
Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.04.12 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
/emote watches the price of your next suicide ship rise as even fewer people want to mine.
Isn't it great to see thieves biting the hand that feeds them?
Except that most SERIOUS ship builders, who mine their own ore arnt stupid enough to get robbed. Personally I wouldnt buy a ship from someone who is stupid enough to mine into a jettison can.  But thats just me. Your logic has failed you once again cupcake, but atleast you keep at it.
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Cam Conquer
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Posted - 2005.04.12 21:11:00 -
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Why is it all you seem to see these days is 10 year old kids bragging oh we stole like 20k of scordite, CCP really should stick a 18+ on this game maybe it will keep the people who's balls havent even dropped out of the way 
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2005.04.12 21:32:00 -
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My iteron V would wtfpwn you if you tried that in empire. Course I try not mine at all, especially in empire of all places. 
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.04.12 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ryctor
Except that most SERIOUS ship builders, who mine their own ore arnt stupid enough to get robbed. Personally I wouldnt buy a ship from someone who is stupid enough to mine into a jettison can. But thats just me. Your logic has failed you once again cupcake, but atleast you keep at it.
Actually, most serious shipbuilders buy their ore using bulk orders on the market. There's no way even the best trained builder/miners can mine enough to sustain any serious throughput of ships. And guess what, most of those buy orders are fulfilled by jet-can miners.
Discourage jet-can mining and you reduce the amount of minerals coming into the economy...and from rising ore prices, we can already see that too little is being mined.
But you're quite welcome to continue biting the hand that's feeding you - it's what thieves do, after all. Just be careful not to bite it clean off, or you'll be searching hard for your next meal 
And I'm not expecting you to agree with me, or expecting to persuade you - if that was possible, it would have happened long before now. So hopefully we can just state our respective positions, without degenrating this into another carebear vs thief/pirate/whatever flamefest.
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Death Priest
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Posted - 2005.04.12 22:27:00 -
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Mommy not giving you enough attention lately?
Alt Griefing is a bannable offense.
Keep it up and we will not cry as we wave Bye Bye to yet another teen loser with no real friends.
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.13 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Death Priest
Mommy not giving you enough attention lately?
Alt Griefing is a bannable offense.
Keep it up and we will not cry as we wave Bye Bye to yet another teen loser with no real friends.
Who is THIS guy talking to?
Oh I see his name is "Death Priest" oh well I better take that VERY SERIOUSLY, and he mentions good old Mom, hmmmm. Well, I don't get it. What does this post mean? Is he refering to the last poster? Or to ore theives?
I hate to tell ya but ore theives are not teenagers, at least not the 12 or so I know, if that's what DEATH PRIEST is saying. But with a name like Death Priest it's hard to take him seriously. Of course, only guys over 50 would pick a name like Death Priest, I guess. But hey I could be wrong. |
SibSpi
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Posted - 2005.04.13 04:20:00 -
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Yer a bunch o' loons! The whole lot of you!
Personally I don't find anything wrong with people getting themselves killed in order to attack other people in high security space. It's the equivalent of a person trying to hijack someone next to a police station. HOWEVER! I do mind when people are using alternate characters to accomplish these goals. I'm not going to accuse the people here or Ashley Sky of doing this, but I do want to stress that using an alt character is by no means busy 'promoting' the fiction factor of this game. A person is born, lives a life and generates standing amongst his/her peers. This standing is thus reflected upon whenever he/she decides to do anything.
Killing people in high sec space needn't be left to an alt. If you want to have fun doing it, just go update your clone, get yourself some kind of cheap ship and equipment and have at it. Simple as that. You're SUPPOSED to lose your implants when you die. It's a choice you have to make.
Also, don't go about saying that this person or that person is a 'serious' or even 'prententious' miner. I personally do solo mining into a can, which I obviously come and collect later with an industrial ship. I'm not in an NPC corp, but my ore doesn't go towards anyone but myself either. I'm busy hoarding cash so that when I've trained up my skills that I may have the money to buy the ship and equipment I want. That's my little piece of fiction.
Everyone, try and understand that EVE is a game that needs its players to build a story. Characters in a book or movie have just that, character. A random character that comes out of nowhere, does something 'life changing' all of a sudden and dissapears again doesn't exist in any good novel. All those that read Harry Potter probably got to hate Draco Malfoy due to his being such a little brat. He's causing trouble all the time and gets away with it. But at least he's still there for everyone to hate. That gives the story a bit more depth, fun and character.
Well, my rant for the night! 
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Cute JapaneseChick
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Posted - 2005.04.13 06:44:00 -
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Ore thieves aren't "characters", they are an environmental hazard.
And they only steal from ******* morons who mine on highways!!!
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.04.13 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cute JapaneseChick
Ore thieves aren't "characters", they are an environmental hazard.
Good to see people taking responsibility for their actions, as always
Originally by: Cute JapaneseChick
And they only steal from ******* morons who mine on highways!!!
Tell me, where is the biggest demand for ore? Check the market, and you'll see it's the highway systems. Where are prices highest? Again, the highway systems. That suggests a market crying out for more miners in highway systems. It's not stupid to mine close to your buyers.
It always amuses me that people think mining on a highway justifies you stealing from someone. By the same logic, leaving your car unlocked justifies someone stealing it. Walking down an alley at night justifies someone mugging you. Heck, at the extreme of this logic, you could argue that just being alive justifies someone killing you.
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Zaneg
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Posted - 2005.04.13 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Check the market, and you'll see it's the highway systems. Where are prices highest?
Talking to 10 year olds, you are aware they wont 'see' anything ?
Originally by: Matthew
By the same logic, leaving your car ... (Snipped more logic)
Lol, logic. THAT will surely not stick it to them.
Next someone will post something about morals and confuse the **** out of these infants. A lost battle. They are a part of the game, like so many other online games. Its what they do.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.04.13 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zaneg
Originally by: Matthew
By the same logic, leaving your car ... (Snipped more logic)
Lol, logic. THAT will surely not stick it to them.
You're quite possibly right, but the contrast between the two can be useful for emphasising a point
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.13 16:44:00 -
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Once again, this is a good example of the reason the miner gets killed. This latest post is an example of being pretentious, since no alts were used in the harming of this miner. The character that delivered the final blow has 5.5 mil sp.
The fact of the matter is, our miner refused to pay for our mining pass, and we offered her a good deal for the amount of ore which was being processed.
She then proceeded to threaten us with death from the alliance she was apparently supporting (in an NPC corp), and become exceedingly annoying. Them'z fightin words if you ask me.
Anyway, I'm not trying to brag about killing a hauler (ooo wow we killed a hauler) I'm just delivering a message to the carebears. Yes, haulers and barges and the like can be destroyed in empire space. Guess what... ore thieves fly haulers... so why keep whining about not being able to kill them? We just set an example. You can.
Also, about biting the hand that feeds us... we don't need your hands, or your food thankyaverymuch. Thieves and pirates, strange as it may sound, can mine/NPC/etc in times of need, even build their own stuff (OMG who woulda thought?) The only difference is, we have more fun, and loads of laughs.
In my opinion the real thieves in this game are the lucky winners of the Tech2 BPO lottery.
Originally by: Death Priest
Mommy not giving you enough attention lately?
Alt Griefing is a bannable offense.
Keep it up and we will not cry as we wave Bye Bye to yet another teen loser with no real friends.
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Kira Natel
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Posted - 2005.04.13 18:00:00 -
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No matter how you or the others or even CCP tries justify it- all you are is a griefer plain and simple. Like all the rest.
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Jim Lovell
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Posted - 2005.04.13 19:04:00 -
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Ashley BYE..if you even try to attack me ill blow you sky high...
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.13 19:49:00 -
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What can I say? I love that piece of hate mail in the morning. To think that Sweet little huggable Ashley can cause such distress in her wimpy little Iteron. It just brightens my day.
Yarr! *Giggle*
Originally by: Kira Natel
No matter how you or the others or even CCP tries justify it- all you are is a griefer plain and simple. Like all the rest.
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.13 19:58:00 -
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Jim, can you please send me an in-game mail of the systems you like to mine in so I can put them on my schedule? kthx.
Originally by: Jim Lovell
Ashley BYE..if you even try to attack me ill blow you sky high...
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Jerec Deepblue
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Posted - 2005.04.13 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Natel
No matter how you or the others or even CCP tries justify it- all you are is a griefer plain and simple. Like all the rest.
So you find it griefing that someone can steal your ore if you don't haul it?
So what you want is a game where you can just mine all day and not have to worry about anything, where no one can steal it? No one can attack you and then steal it? Nothing right?
I think you'd be happy if the game was just an endless field of asteroids and all you did was mine all day long until your brains leaked out of your head. |
Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.13 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Lovell
Ashley BYE..if you even try to attack me ill blow you ...
There you go Ashley, an offer you can't refuse
Of course, i hate to say it, but Lovell and his ilk are all talk and no do. They most they can figure out how to do is fly around you in circles in a shuttle. hehe |
Mitawyn
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Posted - 2005.04.13 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jerec Deepblue
Originally by: Kira Natel
No matter how you or the others or even CCP tries justify it- all you are is a griefer plain and simple. Like all the rest.
So you find it griefing that someone can steal your ore if you don't haul it?
So what you want is a game where you can just mine all day and not have to worry about anything, where no one can steal it? No one can attack you and then steal it? Nothing right?
I think you'd be happy if the game was just an endless field of asteroids and all you did was mine all day long until your brains leaked out of your head.
I am a sometimes miner, refiner, builder, etc., but no, I don't want to be able to mine all day and never have anything happen. Mining is boring enough without the thought of no risk or nothing happening besides just mining. What most people object to, plain and simple, is the fact you ore thiefs have no risk for your reward. Every other craft in the game, has its rewards and its risks, yours does not. To even the field, the miner should be able to defend or protect what he perceives as his ore. Now that would make a truly enjoyable profession out of mining. But if CCP won't change the rules on that, you will continue to see low end mins spiral in price, and the cost of everything that is manufactured from them will continue to rise along with. That is a fact. Being able to strike back, and not be Concordfried would make a big, fun difference in it all. Combat/pvp would get a much needed lift as well.
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Fire Lotus
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Posted - 2005.04.13 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Sky
If our profession was nerfed illegal we would still find a way to do it, in cloaked ships or in a Raven. In a Dreadnaught or a Titan. We will have your ore and more. =)
So I implore you... stop whining, kick back, and enjoy a nice frosty Quafe.
That is quite a bit of isk you're going to spend stealing itty bitty bits of ore. Do it in 0.0 space might be worth your time. Not a very smart post IMHO of course.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the crotch of the person that screws up your day and may thier arms be too short to scratch. |
Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.13 22:42:00 -
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You know, I really like this idea. But it would have to be properly implemented. That's the challenging part...
Let's throw a hypothetical out there... say you got a security flag that allowed the miners to retaliate against you with no Concord intervention... Wouldn't it be fair to say that you as the ore thief should have the right to defend yourself against the onslaught to come? Fair is fair right, you stole from them, you need to protect yourself against the wrath to come.
So say you get yourself a raven, fly up to a can, steal 500m3 of ore. You are now security flagged, they can attack you, you can attack them... This idea I enjoy massively.
Originally by: Mitawyn
I am a sometimes miner, refiner, builder, etc., but no, I don't want to be able to mine all day and never have anything happen. Mining is boring enough without the thought of no risk or nothing happening besides just mining. What most people object to, plain and simple, is the fact you ore thiefs have no risk for your reward. Every other craft in the game, has its rewards and its risks, yours does not. To even the field, the miner should be able to defend or protect what he perceives as his ore. Now that would make a truly enjoyable profession out of mining. But if CCP won't change the rules on that, you will continue to see low end mins spiral in price, and the cost of everything that is manufactured from them will continue to rise along with. That is a fact. Being able to strike back, and not be Concordfried would make a big, fun difference in it all. Combat/pvp would get a much needed lift as well.
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.13 22:52:00 -
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That will be a glorious day,
When all the miners will be heard to say,
We died oh woe is me We died
Ashely's Raven came and we died....
Now that would be fun!
Originally by: Ashley Sky
So say you get yourself a raven, fly up to a can, steal 500m3 of ore. You are now security flagged, they can attack you, you can attack them... This idea I enjoy massively.
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Mr Jay
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Posted - 2005.04.13 23:07:00 -
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And here's me thinking that this is the Crime & Punishment forum?
Stop talking about mining 
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.04.14 00:34:00 -
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Jet can mining is unintended by CCP, ore thieving is a result of jet can mining. So you might say both are unintended, but valid, use of game mechanics (like insta jumps). So it's ok to jet mine, and it's ok to ore theive. Just know the risks and accept them. I used to jet can mine when I was a noob but I knew there was no way to prevent ore theivery. It's about luck and finding a low traffic system. Most high sec systems have veld which is actually pretty profitable, finding an out of the way place is easy.
Besides, empire miners are nearly as low a life form as an ore theif.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Matthew
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Posted - 2005.04.14 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Sky
Also, about biting the hand that feeds us... we don't need your hands, or your food thankyaverymuch. Thieves and pirates, strange as it may sound, can mine/NPC/etc in times of need, even build their own stuff (OMG who woulda thought?) The only difference is, we have more fun, and loads of laughs.
But then you're being a miner/NPC'er etc, not a thief or a pirate.
Originally by: Jerec Deepblue
So what you want is a game where you can just mine all day and not have to worry about anything, where no one can steal it? No one can attack you and then steal it? Nothing right?
True, some want that, but you get exremists at both ends of the debate. I think what the sensible miners want, is not an outright ban on stealing, just an end to the current situation where the police protect the thieves. What grates is not being stolen from, it's that if we try and do anything about it, we're treated like the criminals.
Originally by: Ashley Sky
Let's throw a hypothetical out there... say you got a security flag that allowed the miners to retaliate against you with no Concord intervention... Wouldn't it be fair to say that you as the ore thief should have the right to defend yourself against the onslaught to come? Fair is fair right, you stole from them, you need to protect yourself against the wrath to come.
So say you get yourself a raven, fly up to a can, steal 500m3 of ore. You are now security flagged, they can attack you, you can attack them... This idea I enjoy massively.
You're missing one vital clue here - to be able to defend yourself, you actually have to be being attacked. Hence, being flagged as a thief to the miner isn't enough - you'd actually have to goad the miner into firing on you. To be honest, if you can get a miner to attack a raven, you're welcome to the kill as far as I'm concerned. Any sensible miner would shrug and accept the loss. After all, it's not like you're going to be stealing a worthwhile amount of ore, unless you plan on running back and forth all day. At which point you'd probably find that miner suddenly swapped out for a ganking battleship
Originally by: Alowishus
Jet can mining is unintended by CCP, ore thieving is a result of jet can mining. So you might say both are unintended, but valid, use of game mechanics (like insta jumps).
Yep, and now that they have both become de-facto parts of eve, CCP have noticed another thing unintended by them - concord protecting ore thieves. Hence the flagging system that's comming SOON(TM).
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Ainsy
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Posted - 2005.04.15 03:45:00 -
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an Ideal solution to this problem would either be editing the drone mining tutorial to mention the dangers of thieves or popping up a dialog saying 'x is trying to access your jet can do you want to allow this?'
if the player was offline then access could be allowed since the can would pop in an hour anyway.
just my 2p-worth
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Judas Kirk
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Posted - 2005.04.20 04:24:00 -
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This I find quite amusing. You know who the ore theives are, you know their names in the forums. If I lose my ship to Ashley and Big Doggy, than who's fault is it? If you know they're going to be there, and you know how to mark them in game, you can get away. If you're tanked enough, you might even be able to watch Concord gank them, and still get your loot. (And maybe some of theirs). The government (CCP) isn't going to help you, and the cops are corrupt, so what else is new? Those who are smart and fast will beat Ashley and crew, ot at least will have learned something when beaten. Those who are not will whine on the forums.
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Virgil Aquilis
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Posted - 2005.04.20 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Judas Kirk
This I find quite amusing. You know who the ore theives are, you know their names in the forums. If I lose my ship to Ashley and Big Doggy, than who's fault is it? If you know they're going to be there, and you know how to mark them in game, you can get away. If you're tanked enough, you might even be able to watch Concord gank them, and still get your loot. (And maybe some of theirs). The government (CCP) isn't going to help you, and the cops are corrupt, so what else is new? Those who are smart and fast will beat Ashley and crew, ot at least will have learned something when beaten. Those who are not will whine on the forums.
Hello, my name is Virgil Aquilis. If I warp in with a Badger 2, it means I want to steal your ore. If I warp in with a Kestrel, it means I want to blow your Retriever up. Fair warning ^_^
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Jerec Deepblue
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Posted - 2005.04.21 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jerec Deepblue on 21/04/2005 15:55:13
I think more and more players are tired of mining and want to shake things up a bit.
I see a trend to more and more people making life harder for empire miners.
Do you realize how thin the shields are on barges?
Also they often carry very expensive modules.
Seems to me a person could "almost" make a living off killing mining barges and taking their loots.
Of course each kill would have to be interspersed with long periods of working on getting your sec rating up. But I kill npcs all day anyway so....
Kill a miner today I say!
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.04.21 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jerec Deepblue
Do you realize how thin the shields are on barges?
Also they often carry very expensive modules.
Seems to me a person could "almost" make a living off killing mining barges and taking their loots.
Yep, if even just one strip miner survives, that's enough to pay for a fair few suicide kestrels, especially if you insure them just before you go out to die.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.04.21 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Sky
The fact of the matter is, our miner refused to pay for our mining pass, and we offered her a good deal for the amount of ore which was being processed.
LOL, who in their right mind would pay for a mining pass in 0.9 space?
To be honest, I don't see a difference between you and the suicide gank squad a few months back. Nor are you clever like the great ore thieves and scammers, like Ryctor and Tenaj.
So you make a few ISK from time to time, and you manage to ruin someone's day; you know your characters wouldn't survive in their current line of work in <0.5 space.
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Dream Crusher
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Posted - 2005.04.21 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
Originally by: Ashley Sky
The fact of the matter is, our miner refused to pay for our mining pass, and we offered her a good deal for the amount of ore which was being processed.
LOL, who in their right mind would pay for a mining pass in 0.9 space?
To be honest, I don't see a difference between you and the suicide gank squad a few months back. Nor are you clever like the great ore thieves and scammers, like Ryctor and Tenaj.
So you make a few ISK from time to time, and you manage to ruin someone's day; you know your characters wouldn't survive in their current line of work in <0.5 space.
Ya know my mama used to say "If you don't have somethin' nice to say just shut the hell up".
Seems like some good advice for you.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.04.21 23:00:00 -
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It's all valid parts of the game but it would be interesting to see if the apparant upsurge in ore thievery which is attractive because it's way easier to steal than to mine and more profitable is really resulting in supply of low end mins dropping. The alternative hypothesis is that the demand for BS's has gone ballistic due to ship losses caused by Level 4 missions.
Maybe CCP could come in here and contribute. How about it guys do some data mining and post some trends?
If miners really are getting frustrated by the apparant lack of options to fight back and are turning to other things like agent running or even off the game then something should be done to ballance this, and I don't mean remove the thieves entirely. This becomes a problem because inflation kicks in and that could kill the game off faster than anything else.
BTW Ashley you mention stealing 500m3 of ore in your raven, well I think most miners wouldn't begrudge you that to be honest, however it's a slow way to steal ore.
WTS: Male, 37, single, can fly starships, build rockets and dance Salsa.
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TjanitN Tcroxlr
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Posted - 2005.04.22 01:41:00 -
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2005.04.22 01:10:00
Victim: Big doggy
Corporation: AliBaba's 40 Thieves
Destroyed Type: Capsule
Solar System: Jita
System Security Level: 0.9
Involved parties:
Name: TjanitN Tcroxlr (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -1.4
Corporation: School of Applied Knowledge
Ship Type: Kestrel
Weapon Type: Sabretooth Light Missile I
2005.04.22 01:10:00
For your termination of Big doggy we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 17,010,001 ISK
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.22 02:19:00 -
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It's about time someone FINALLY worked together to kill Mr Doggy. hehe. Too bad it took 4 of you and the corpse and loot was stolen by yours truly before you could get it.
Congratulations on the bounty. =)
Originally by: TjanitN Tcroxlr
2005.04.22 01:10:00
Victim: Big doggy
Corporation: AliBaba's 40 Thieves
Destroyed Type: Capsule
Solar System: Jita
System Security Level: 0.9
Involved parties:
Name: TjanitN Tcroxlr (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -1.4
Corporation: School of Applied Knowledge
Ship Type: Kestrel
Weapon Type: Sabretooth Light Missile I
2005.04.22 01:10:00
For your termination of Big doggy we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 17,010,001 ISK
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TjanitN Tcroxlr
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Posted - 2005.04.22 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Sky
It's about time someone FINALLY worked together to kill Mr Doggy. hehe. Too bad it took 4 of you and the corpse and loot was stolen by yours truly before you could get it.
Congratulations on the bounty. =)
Liar. A small portion of the loot was taken after our designated sweeper filled his cargo. Unfortunately, he did grab the wrong corpse.
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Big doggy
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Posted - 2005.04.22 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: TjanitN Tcroxlr
Originally by: Ashley Sky
It's about time someone FINALLY worked together to kill Mr Doggy. hehe. Too bad it took 4 of you and the corpse and loot was stolen by yours truly before you could get it.
Congratulations on the bounty. =)
Liar. A small portion of the loot was taken after our designated sweeper filled his cargo. Unfortunately, he did grab the wrong corpse.
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.04.23 13:51:00 -
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1.i dont get this miner, ore thives, none of that is a crime wtf u posting it here for?
2.so u killed some dude in a 0.9 system why is it that we need to know this?
3.do you really think anyone cares?
4.do you think you are better then the miners?
well i'll just go ahead and give u some solutions to these questions
1.ore is some bad ass **** but its not a crime mmmh k
2.so u cant kill a guy with out being blown up well thats great good ******* job
3.i have killed 10 ppl today and u know what no one cares and it dont matter a flying **** and never will
4.dude your flying a hauler most of the time ffs l°l
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TjanitN Tcroxlr
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Posted - 2005.04.23 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Big doggy
Originally by: TjanitN Tcroxlr
Originally by: Ashley Sky
It's about time someone FINALLY worked together to kill Mr Doggy. hehe. Too bad it took 4 of you and the corpse and loot was stolen by yours truly before you could get it.
Congratulations on the bounty. =)
Liar. A small portion of the loot was taken after our designated sweeper filled his cargo. Unfortunately, he did grab the wrong corpse.
Ashley is not a liar. We have no reason to lie. Please check the facts and you'll see that.
she lied because nothing was stolen. Once it is in a drop can, unless it comes from killing a mission objective rat, it belongs to the first one in the can. I didnt kill you for your corpse so the fact that my saweeper grabbed the wrong one is only mildly disappointing at best. My objective was to prove to you that I, and my team, are more than just the usual big talkers sitting on the porch. I feel I have achieved my objective perfectly. And I will continue to do so. So yeah; She didnt steal crap so saying she did is a lie.
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.23 17:56:00 -
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I think his words speak for themselves. Anyone reading this would judge his character mentally handicapped.
I got the corpse they wanted while they sat there gloating. This issue has been addressed in another thread to my satisfaction.
Originally by: TjanitN Tcroxlr
she lied because nothing was stolen. Once it is in a drop can, unless it comes from killing a mission objective rat, it belongs to the first one in the can. I didnt kill you for your corpse so the fact that my saweeper grabbed the wrong one is only mildly disappointing at best. My objective was to prove to you that I, and my team, are more than just the usual big talkers sitting on the porch. I feel I have achieved my objective perfectly. And I will continue to do so. So yeah; She didnt steal crap so saying she did is a lie.
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